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Posted: 8/30/2005 7:15:42 PM EDT

www.nationalreview.com/comment/hall_schweizer200508290810.asp

Campus Rads vs. Our Vets
The antiwar unwelcome on campus.

By Wynton C. Hall & Peter Schweizer

As college students hit campuses across the nation this week, a new generation of young veterans will step off the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan and onto the ideological battlefield of our university campuses. For those on the frontline in the war on terror, the antiwar hostility of liberal professors and campus activists will assuredly prove unsettling.

Just ask Marine sergeant Marco Martinez, a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and a full-time psychology major at Saddleback College in Mission Viejo, Calif.

“A woman on campus had apparently learned I might be a Marine. When I told her I was, she said, ‘You’re a disgusting human being, and I hope you rot in hell!’ ”

Indeed, Martinez, who will be the first male in his family to receive a college diploma, says he is receiving more of an education than he bargained for: “There are a lot of people who don’t appreciate military service in college,” Martinez said. “If someone asks me about it, and I think that they’re not too liberal, I might tell them I was in Iraq. But I don’t tell them the full extent of it or anything about the Navy Cross.”

The Navy Cross — as in second only to the Congressional Medal of Honor. Martinez, formerly of 2nd Battalion, 5th Marines, is a bona-fide American hero and the first Hispanic American since Vietnam to receive the Navy Cross. During the Battle of At Tarmiya, one of Sergeant Martinez’s fellow marines had been hit in the legs and left for dead by five terrorists holed up in an adobe garden shed. That’s when Martinez used his body to shield the dying marine from the terrorist before mounting a 20-meter frontal charge at the bunker with nothing but a depleted rifle and a grenade. With enemy bullets pinging off his gear, Martinez unpinned the grenade, slammed his body into the adobe building, and lobbed the device into the window of the structure, killing all the terrorists inside.

But as liberal professors and antiwar activists continue to wage a nationwide campaign to rid university campuses of military recruiters — in some cases going so far as to throw water bottles and scream epithets at them — it is easy to see why Sergeant Martinez would remain tight-lipped about being one of the nation’s most decorated heroes.

Indeed, as one campus newspaper reported, the rift between young veteran college students and their civilian classmates has left those who have served feeling isolated from campus life, “shunned” because of their service.

Just ask Armand McCormick, 23, a student at the University of Northern Iowa.

While walking to class one day, McCormick stopped to listen to a speaker during an antiwar student rally. When he challenged the protestor’s arguments, the “peace” activist sneered, “The Iraqis don’t want us there. If you think the war is okay, then why don’t you go and serve!”

There was an obvious problem with the protestor’s retort: He had no clue who he was talking to — -Silver Star recipient Marine corporal Armand McCormick.

“I’ve had a few conversations about [the War on Terror] in the liberal classrooms I go to everyday,” said McCormick. “A lot of the time I just look at them and tell them that they don’t have any clue what they’re talking about, because all they do is listen to liberal news. I always tell them, ‘If you don’t experience something, how in the hell can you say what will happen?’ ”

As Corporal McCormick rightly points out, his classmates’ reliance upon the elite mainstream media all but ensures that they are unfamiliar with the jaw-dropping acts of heroism he performed on March 25, 2003, in Ad Diwuniyah, Iraq. Far removed from the breezy comforts of a college campus, it was there, inside an enemy trench, that McCormick, along with his two fellow Marines, captain Brian Chontosh and corporal Robert “Robbie” Kerman, was swarmed by what officials estimate was a company-sized element of between 150 to 200 Iraqi fighters. When the smoke cleared, the three marines had not only survived, they had eliminated scores of enemy fighters and regained key territory. It’s the sort of incident the campus Left should think about the next time it proclaims how “courageous” it is in protesting the war.

The Left has adopted the mantra that it opposes the war but supports our soldiers. Those veterans visiting campuses tell a different story; the early fault lines forming on our nation’s campuses do not portend hopeful signs.

For those who profess to embrace “diversity” and champion allowing “marginalized voices” to be heard, perhaps liberal professors, administrators, and students might learn something were they open-minded enough to listen to the heroes in their midst. Then, and only then, will they correct the tragic mistakes of the Vietnam era that valued politics more than patriots.

You can see how much the left supports the troops.

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:18:07 PM EDT

[#1]

<-- me keeping my mouth shut b/c what i want to say will get me banned and this thread locked.

it's like that at every college at least on some level

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:22:21 PM EDT

[#2]

tag

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:27:11 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
“A woman on campus had apparently learned I might be a Marine. When I told her I was, she said, ‘You’re a disgusting human being, and I hope you rot in hell!’ ”

She needs to have her tongue cut out and made to eat it.

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:29:26 PM EDT

[#4]

Some of these dumb $hits don't seem to understand that there are some people in this world that would like to see their heads on the end of a stick, and there some people that will prevent them putting my head on the end of a stick.

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:30:03 PM EDT

[#5]

Indeed, all about diversity and understanding, until you dare disagree with them.

Damn all these left wing marxist bolsheviks to hell for all eternity. I truly and utterly resent these vile loathsome scum.

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:34:37 PM EDT

[#6]

Luckily for me the expreience has been the exact opposite.
I attend(ed) a small liberal arts school in southeastern Ohio.
I recently earned the credits needed for OCS and decided to finish my degree in the Army.
To this end, I needed to let a few profs. know that I would'nt be back to school, i.e. handing in resignations for academic club leadership positions, student work study, ect.
When I told them about my plans I could tell some were slightly saddened that I would'nt be staying at school, however all were supportive of my choice to enlist in the Army and thanked me for my future service to my country.

Hell, I even got a parking ticket taken care of when I mentioned to the security officer that I was heading to Ft. Benning's School for Boys!

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:37:05 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Quoted:
“A woman on campus had apparently learned I might be a Marine. When I told her I was, she said, ‘You’re a disgusting human being, and I hope you rot in hell!’ ”

She needs to have her tongue cut out and made to eat it.

+1

Make her eat her Birkenstocks.

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:45:16 PM EDT

[#8]

Putting on my soothing Mooooood music...Ah sea gulls and ocean waves with a harp in the background.
Must find my happy place...Must find my happy place...Must find my happy place

Damn my happy place is the range

Posted: 8/30/2005 7:53:22 PM EDT

[#9]

What I hate most about those antiwar liberals at college (including professors) is that they have a sort of superior attitude about it. Whenever they make offhand remarks about not supporting the war (or about any other liberal view) they always say it with this attitude like "I'm a sensitive human being who cares about those poor Iraqis/welfare moms/antigunners/whoreswhoarehavingabortions, so that makes me special." It's basically self-aggrandizing, it's like their liberal views make them feel better about themselves.

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:17:40 PM EDT

[#10]

Well, some dumb hippie vegan chick in my Utopian Theory class today (first meeting) said that her idea of a utopian campus would have no military personel. Same group of people who want a totally free education, except somehow they think it's ok to discriminate against other people's job choices and life experience.

Last semester we did have a NY ARNG Iraq vet speak for my American Foreign Policy class. He made some hippies shut the fuck up.

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:25:27 PM EDT

[#11]

If I heard somebody address a War Vet the way that lady did, I would have blown up.

I am so glad that these people remember, thank, and appreciate those who defend their rights to say those things....

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:30:11 PM EDT

[#12]

cocksucking liberal homos!

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:33:04 PM EDT

[#13]

This makes me sick...

What can we do?

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:43:22 PM EDT

[#14]

The sweetest revenge is the fact that the US military has done more to promote human progress, freedom and prosperity to a degree that puts the intelligensia, human rights activists, protestors, etc to shame.

Thank you vets and active servicemen. You're a force for good in the world, despite what sophistic jackasses living in ivory towers think.

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:44:06 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
What I hate most about those antiwar liberals at college (including professors) is that they have a sort of superior attitude about it. Whenever they make offhand remarks about not supporting the war (or about any other liberal view) they always say it with this attitude like "I'm a sensitive human being who cares about those poor Iraqis/welfare moms/antigunners/whoreswhoarehavingabortions, so that makes me special." It's basically self-aggrandizing, it's like their liberal views make them feel better about themselves.

That is 95% of liberalism right there.

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:47:26 PM EDT

[#16]

#1 priority is to graduate, then get a better job than them and fire them. In the big scheme of things, these people arent dogshit.

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:49:24 PM EDT

[#17]

I love all this "humanitarian" BS coming from Porsche-driving trust-fund babies with "save Tibet" stickers all over everything they own. "throwing water bottles and screaming epithets", huh? That will swiftly change to "bleeding profusely and screaming in agonizing pain" if they do that to the wrong people. Some of the guys coming back from over here are not to be trifled with...

Posted: 8/30/2005 8:55:57 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I love all this "humanitarian" BS coming from Porsche-driving trust-fund babies with "save Tibet" stickers all over everything they own. "throwing water bottles and screaming epithets", huh? That will swiftly change to "bleeding profusely and screaming in agonizing pain" if they do that to the wrong people. Some of the guys coming back from over here are not to be trifled with...

While scum like that deserve to be "bleeding profusely", the guys I served with, and I imagine most of the rest of the military guys who are going to college now, are too good of men to give them what they deserve.

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:00:42 PM EDT

[#19]

tagged

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:04:43 PM EDT

[#20]

I couldn't imagine being around such a large group of people who think like that, every day, and not lose my cool. These two Marines are showing great restraint in the face of domestic evil. If the Libs keep pushing, one of the veterans will give them what they're asking for, and it should be done with certain impunity. I'm infuriated by this story, it makes me sick that our heroes have to put up with this and I hope they stand strong in thier convictions and not be swayed -a la Ron Kovic- by these people.

What a disappointment it must be for the vets to come home and have to experience such negativity. All the sacrifices, and all that they have done for thier country -and for the Libs freedom- is lost with these fools and thier blatherings. These people wouldn't know a thing about sacrifice, and the great men who walk amongst them deserve much, much better. It's a real fuc*ing shame.

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:11:31 PM EDT

[#21]

Same ilk as Vietnam...Instead of being the sheeple, they're the Professors and Deans spreading their poison to another generation

Sad...Very Sad in deed

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:25:25 PM EDT

[#22]

t

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:30:40 PM EDT

[#23]

Liberals hate America. Plain and simple. This kind of behavior should come as no suprise.

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:38:05 PM EDT

[#24]

Everybody who knows me, or knows OF me knows better than trash-talk the US military in my presense.

Posted: 8/30/2005 9:41:35 PM EDT

[#25]

PTSD. One of our boys will snap. It WILL be very ugly and violent. Just a mater of time.

Posted: 8/30/2005 10:37:51 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Quoted:
“A woman on campus had apparently learned I might be a Marine. When I told her I was, she said, ‘You’re a disgusting human being, and I hope you rot in hell!’ ”

She needs to have her tongue cut out and made to eat it.

She's just made that she can't find a real man like that Marine to cornhole her. I'm sure he wouldn't hit that nasty ass with a stolen dick.

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