Holy crap - the ONE TIME I leave without my CW.....

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Holy crap - the ONE TIME I leave without my CW.....

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:20:55 PM EDT

I took my dog on an early walk around the woods this morning. I'd already packed up my range bag with my two normal carry pistols, and put it in the trunk of my vehicle. So, this one time, I decided to go out unarmed. I typically carry either a Glock 19 or a Kel-Tec .380 loaded with Glasers, depending on what I am wearing at the time.

I've taken my dog through this exact same route literally hundreds of times the past couple of years, so I got careless, thinking, 'nothing's ever happened before, why should something happen today?' But this morning.......

I almost stepped on this bad boy. Coral snake, highly poisonous. The yellow bands differentiate it from the harmless King snake. First time I've ever seen one of these in this area. I would have had no compunction about killing it if I'd been armed, but as it was I just had to walk on and be more careful.

This is God's way of telling me I'm not paranoid enough, I suppose.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:22:38 PM EDT

[#1]

I can never remember the red-yellow-black rhyme the right way.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:23:35 PM EDT

[#2]

How does that rhyme go?

Red next to yellow--kill a fellow. (coral snake)
Red next to black--venom lack (king snake)

...something like that.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:24:48 PM EDT

[#3]

Coral snakes are awfully timid. You weren't in any danger... they have to chew and chew, IF they bite you, to get the poison into your body.

Of course, if it gets there, you're fucked.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:25:17 PM EDT

[#4]

Is that a pic of the actual snake? I would be surprised if you had a camera on you but no CW.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:25:43 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
How does that rhyme go?

Red next to yellow--kill a fellow. (coral snake)
Red next to black--venom lack (king snake)

...something like that.

That's basically it. Also, black nose is coral snake; red nose is scarlet king snake.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:37:10 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Is that a pic of the actual snake? I would be surprised if you had a camera on you but no CW.

Just a good picture I found on the net.

The rhyme I learned is:

Red on yellow; kill a fellow.
Red on black; venom lack.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:39:40 PM EDT

[#7]

If red touches yellow, you're a dead fellow.
If red touches black, you're okay Jack.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:41:02 PM EDT

[#8]

Thanks fellas, think I got it.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:44:22 PM EDT

[#9]

OH MY GOD A LITTLE SNAKE! Bring the .50 BMG next time.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:44:36 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
If red touches yellow, you're a dead fellow.
If red touches black, you're okay Jack.

If the ground hits my back, I had a heart attack....

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:49:44 PM EDT

[#11]

If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:55:19 PM EDT

[#12]

if Chewbacca is a wookie, then you must aquit.

Think that's how it went on that Sat Night Live spoof, or was it Southpark...I forget.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:55:43 PM EDT

[#13]

Bet you don't do that again.

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:58:33 PM EDT

[#14]

and somehow you survived

Posted: 8/29/2005 2:58:51 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
if Chewbacca is a wookie, then you must aquit.

Think that's how it went on that Sat Night Live spoof, or was it Southpark...I forget.

I think that was on south park!

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:07:34 PM EDT

[#16]

Yep, coral snakes are rear fanged. They have to chew on you for it to inject its venom. Thats why most of there victims are young children who where playing with it.

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:10:28 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
How does that rhyme go?

Red next to yellow--kill a fellow. (coral snake)
Red next to black--venom lack (king snake)

...something like that.

OR

Red touches Black-Your OK jack, Red touches Yellow-Your a dead fellow

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:30:05 PM EDT

[#18]

No need to kill that snake you were in no danger unless you picked it up - walk around it and leave it be. Now if you have young kids who might play with it and it is near the house that is a different story. But, a shovel would work better than a handgun to dispatch it.

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:35:06 PM EDT

[#19]

I agree, most snakes are not a threat to humans, only rats, and other small rodents.

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:37:52 PM EDT

[#20]

It must be that time of the season.

I saw one yesterday on my way out to my truck.

I pretended that his head was a cigar butt and went on about my business.

Glad you're ok!

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:39:41 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Is that a pic of the actual snake? I would be surprised if you had a camera on you but no CW.

Just a good picture I found on the net.

The rhyme I learned is:

Red on yellow; kill a fellow.
Red on black; venom lack.

The rhyme I was taught is:

If it moves toward you, kill it!!!

It's a pretty universal policy.

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:40:23 PM EDT

[#22]

yellow on red, kills you dead.

I knew a guy that used to catch them and sell them to researchers at the local university. You left $50 on the ground

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:40:28 PM EDT

[#23]

When I was a small boy I killed a lot of snakes with rocks. They are still effective if you find yourself without a firearm.

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:46:13 PM EDT

[#24]

For me the rhyme goes like this

Snake, kill it

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:50:37 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Kel-Tec .380 loaded with Glasers

Why even bother toting a gun? Strong language and spittle would do more damage most of the time.

-Troy

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:52:56 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
I can never remember the red-yellow-black rhyme the right way.

+1, I'd kill either one just to be safe.

Kharn

Posted: 8/29/2005 3:53:32 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Kel-Tec .380 loaded with Glasers

Why even bother toting a gun? Strong language and spittle would do more damage most of the time.

-Troy

Aw man, that's just mean.....

Posted: 8/29/2005 4:15:52 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Kel-Tec .380 loaded with Glasers

Why even bother toting a gun? Strong language and spittle would do more damage most of the time.

-Troy

What can I say, I believed the hype.

Posted: 8/29/2005 4:26:54 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Kel-Tec .380 loaded with Glasers

Why even bother toting a gun? Strong language and spittle would do more damage most of the time.

-Troy

What? You're saying that Glasers aren't the nukes of handgun ammo??

Seriously, what's the story, been a long time since my Combat Handguns sub went out.

Posted: 8/29/2005 4:37:24 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
I can never remember the red-yellow-black rhyme the right way.

Red on yellow kills a fellow.

Red on black, you're OK jack!

Posted: 8/29/2005 4:51:46 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
What? You're saying that Glasers aren't the nukes of handgun ammo??

Seriously, what's the story, been a long time since my Combat Handguns sub went out.

Read www.ammo-oracle.com to learn about how bullets wound, what type of wounds are desirable for combat, and what the optimal performance parameters are.

Then read Better performing self defense loads: Various calibers for a pretty thorough discussion of the types of loads you should be looking for in various calibers, and why.

If you have any questions after that, ask and I'll try to answer/reference them for you.

-Troy

Posted: 8/29/2005 4:56:21 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
I can never remember the red-yellow-black rhyme the right way.

See a snake, kill it with a rake

If it's a copperhead, shoot it dead

saw a boa, ran it ova'

Posted: 8/29/2005 7:51:44 PM EDT

[#33]

Found this to be helpful:

Posted: 8/29/2005 7:56:01 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Is that a pic of the actual snake? I would be surprised if you had a camera on you but no CW.

Just a good picture I found on the net.

The rhyme I learned is:

Red on yellow; kill a fellow.
Red on black; venom lack.

That's the way I learned it.

Posted: 8/29/2005 7:58:40 PM EDT

[#35]

You don't need a gun for taking care of that little guy, just a walking stick. I usually take care of rattlers and other badies with a thump to the head with a long stick.

Posted: 8/29/2005 8:02:37 PM EDT

[#36]

If I see a snake that I'm not SURE is a harmless garter snake, coral snake, ringneck snake, or indigo snake, it's sure to die.

But I almost never see any snakes at all. Rattlers and coral snakes aren't very common in the 'burbs on the beachside in Florida.

CJ

Posted: 8/29/2005 8:05:21 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
Quoted:
if Chewbacca is a wookie, then you must aquit.

Think that's how it went on that Sat Night Live spoof, or was it Southpark...I forget.

I think that was on south park!

South Park

The chewbacca defense -

Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Stinky Britches" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself!

But ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider: Ladies and gentlemen this [pointing to a picture of Chewbacca] is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now, think about that. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! Why would a Wookiee—an eight foot tall Wookiee—want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense!

But more important, you have to ask yourself, what does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense!

Look at me, I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense!

And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation... does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense.

If Chewbacca lived on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.

Posted: 8/29/2005 8:18:48 PM EDT

[#38]

Sorry you missed your chance to draw down on a snake.

A Pre-ban STICK is all you need. Pointy or otherwise. Just whack it a few times. Why would you even want to waste your uber-expensive Glaser ammo on a snake, anyway?

You are higher on th food chain, right? Break it's spine, skin it, cook it and eat it. Sheesh