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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:19:37 AM EDT
It's midnight and I'm returning from the drivein in our convertable with my family when there before me is an almost blinding bank of blue lights and red flares directing the traffic into a single line.
On both sides of the lane are lines of cops. They seriously harrassed me by continually saying "Evening, how are you." and crap like "Nice car." and "Cute Dog". as they waved me right on through. I actually see a deputy who flags me down to a complete stop then leans over on my door. He says, "How you been? Haven't seen for a while." I reply politely, "Fine and you?" He replies "Not to happy about having to pull this DUI check tonight but otherwise just fine. See you at the range." Damn my JBT stories suck! Kidding aside, we often post about how bad our experiences are with LEOs and I thought a change of pace would be refreshing. I mean this wasn't as much a stop as social gathering confronted with smiling faces and good wishes on both sides of my car. We really have good cops in our county and I'm proud my tax dollars are spent on such people. Don't care for the idea of road blocks but if you got to have one it couldn't have been manned with better people. Flame away! Tj |
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Thats bullcrap! You know those f-ing pigs were causing a hazardous traffic condition and were obviously on a fishing expidition. Stick it to the man! I would have drawn down on them all!!!
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Bad taste.
Further reductions of our liberties to be 'left alone' is hardly a matter for jest. Yes, I know that DWIs cause fatalities and injuries, but so do firearms. So, let's just ban the firearms and force all citizens to walk wherever thay go. Sorry. Eric The(NoSenseOfHumor)Hun |
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I think you need to re-frame from talking bad about the LEO, the wolf pack was very nice to you from the way your story went, by no means were you harassed Mr. TJ.
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never had a bad run in with law enforcement ......(knock knock)
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+1 All I've met have been respectful peoeple. |
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Agreed, but I certainly get TJ's attitude. Better to have those things manned by folks who hate working them, than power hungry jerks who enjoy it. |
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I was pulled over yesterday by a state trooper for 67 in a 55.
Now state troopers here never let anyone off. Further this is a chick. My experiences with them invlove nothing but obtuse power tripping. So she walks up to the car. And she was really nice, smiling and talking. Asked me how fast I was going and I told her. She said she was just going to give me a warning. Almost apologetically. WTF? World coming to an end or what? |
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'Luck of the draw', Leisure_Shoot, 'luck of the draw...' Next time...who knows? And that is unacceptable for a Republic. You young folks might think this is just a 'slippery slope.' We old geezers know that the Republic has fallen and can't get up. I recall that in the Warren Court, the Supremes put the quietus on 'road blocks' on New Years Eve. Now, we have a Supreme Court that will permit them on any day...of the year. They're called 'Safety Checks'! That's errily similar to the 'Committee for Public Safety' that ran the Reign of Terror' during the French Revolution... Safety, Brethren! Safety! It's ALL that really counts! Eric The(libertarian)Hun |
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You were speeding. The 'chick' had every right to pull you over. That she let you off with a warning is perfectly legit. Now, how does your situation compare to a 'dragnet?" Eric The('JustTheFact,Ma'am,JustTheFacts.'~OfficerJoeFriday)Hun |
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When they lean over and get in your face they're trying to smell your breath for alcohol, I try to move over the same distance they lean forward. There's even a flashlight with an alcohol sensor they use to be sneaky about that. I've heard of a clipboard model a while back. Here's a flashlight model www.pasintl.com/304.htm |
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Eric, I think you are losing it dude. Maybe you should re-read my post in the appropriate context. Ah, nevermind. BTW, my bro-in-law is a deputy sheriff and his name is...you guessed it. Joe Friday. |
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+1, all but one I've met have been the same. I was 15, was 4pm, I was taking a walk outside and some idiot was setting off fireworks, and I knew who said idiot was. Female cop parks car near me, I stop and wait for her with my hands in the open, cop walks up to me, shines flashlight right in my face and says "Who's setting off the fireworks ?". No greeting, nothing, just the flashlight in the face and a question. Because of her rude behavior, I told her "Sorry officer, I have no idea, but it sounds like it's coming from over there *points*". Then she just walked away. I'd have told her the truth if she had simply been a little more polite. Like try not using the flashlight at 4 in the afternoon and walking up to me saying "Hello, we've had some reports of...." or something to that effect. The rest I've ever encountered have been alright. Seems the JBT factor only applies to a minority, based on my experience. |
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Maybe I never had 'it.'
If a joke has to be explained, it ceases to be a joke. It becomes commentary.
I bet he never gets tired of that joke! Eric The('Book'Em,Danno!'Wait,IHaveACousinInLawEnforcementNamed'Danny')Hun |
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When you get caught with your foot in your mouth the best response is usually to bite down, hard. I would agree, you probably never really had 'it'. |
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Is this something your mother told you?
I know your mother never told you that! Eric The(Mother)Hun |
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Yeah, if you think getting stopped at checkpoints is a "good LEO experience", I think you've already shifted your values too far to the left. |
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No, actually it was your mother. Is there anyone else here with a 6th grade reading comprehension who didn't understand the point of my initial post? Didn't think so |
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I hope you're wrong, sir. I sincerely hope you're wrong. Some days I believe it. Some days I don't/can't. But if I don't believe there is hope, then it's all for naught, and I might as well become lawless and give up on society. So I will keep on trying to make a difference for the rest of my days. Since I have a family now, I have no choice but to keep trying. Trying to educate sheeple; correspond to my representatives. Maybe run for local offices, etc... |
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My run-ins with the NYPD can be pretty rough. Frightfully, I approach one of the officers and ask, "This is a stupid question, but do you know of a good <insert Ethnic food> restaurant around here? One of my friends tells me it's near here."
They respond in that famous New York accent, "Oh, sure, you head three blocks that way, go north up..." I always feel bad about stopping them, but when the cabbies don't know where they're going and it's hard to find someone speaks English, the police can deliver. Always friendly, never help begrudgingly. Sorry for bugging you, officers! In fact, I've been hoping to get searched on the subways just to see what the deal is, and I haven't managed it yet. They probably see me and say, "Oh, that's the kid who is always bugging us about restaurants. He's harmless." (I don't see how DUI checkpoints can be constitutional, but it is one of many things that doesn't make sense to me.) |
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He is just saying that he had a good run it witht he cops last time even though he did something wrong. Afterall, the title of the post is "Run In With The Cops Last Night" not "CALLING ETH TO TAKE MY THREAD WAY OFF TOPIC!!!! PLEASE!!!" |
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Me, too. Eric The(SeldomWrong)Hun |
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I understood that.
Sorry, but I am discussing 'run ins' with the Cops that may not be so sanguine. 'Sanguine', get it? Eric The(EverHopeful)Hun |
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TJ!!! THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! call the ACLU and DEMAND that your rights COULD have been violated!!!
I have had run ins like you have and Honestly I have even been pulled over on a few occasions and didnt even get a ticket... just a warning... came from different agencies too... Local city cops, County Sheriff, ATF, FBI..... Well OK NOT the ATF or FBI Eric, You OK? You are not yourself today. |
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Was she hot?? |
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So-so. My wife and daughter thought she was cute though. She looked like she weighed in at about 110lbs dripping wet. Little bitty thing. Very positive experience with an LEO. Polite and pleasant. Even if she had given me a citation I would have said the same. |
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No one shot my dog yesterday.
Oh wait, I dont have a dog but then noone stomped on my cat yesterday either. |
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LOL, Yep sometimes but not this time for this was a buddy I shoot with. I'd already been waved through the block and he was just bored. Tj |
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A checkpoint is a checkpoint. Today it was DWI, insurance cards. Next is guns and whatever else they feel like fishing for. |
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I am as fine as wine. As always. I, too, have had many numerous encounters with the local dogberries, and came away with nary a scratch. And my dog, Scooter, died of old age, and nothing more. I should be thrilled, eh? Eric The(TakingMyMorningConstitutional)Hun |
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I still say that those CHECKPOINTS should be illegal, regardless of wether they're manned by good cops or bad cops.
Papers, Comrade? |
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I will leave it to you to be the judge of 'dicks.' You appear to know what you're talking about when it comes to 'dicks.' I have no such expertise, but with my own.
Mistake my mother for yours? Nonsense. Tell her 'Howdy from the Hun!' She'll smile.
See? There's the rub! I do NOT have a 6th grade reading comprehension.
'Not thinking' is bad for a discussion board. Eric The(Surefooted)Hun |
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As a working musician, I see a lot of these "checkpoints", usually at 2:00 am or so, most are no problem, just the hassle of it. I did go thru one a while back where a state trooper stuck one of those flashlights in my face through the open window. Blinded the crap out of me - could see nothing but spots at that point. He then then told me several times to go ahead and I told him I wasn't moving till I could regain my vision. He wasn't a happy camper at that point, but I'm not taking a chance with my Z71 and 12' trailer full of band gear. Hard Lesson learned - From now on, I won't open my window except for a couple inches to hand them my license. |
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Keep flying the flag guys. Never posted I thought DUI stops were right only the cops that manned that weren't bad people.
In the next county over, larger city, it's like entering a security base with DL and insuance checks anything they can find. Yes, it differs in areas. None are right but some are a tad less painful than others. Tj |
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My worst problem with a JBT was he was late relieving me for lunch!!! damn Rookie
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They're just getting you used to such stops. It will be like entering Fallujah...some day. And they will have every reasonable basis for acting in that manner. You'd have thought that we were the folks who elected Saddam Hussein, President. Eric The(non-Iraqi)Hun |
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Hey ETH, how are you doing been awhile, Sorry about Scooter...
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Everything's as fine as wine. The Ex-Miz Hun and I are back together... And Scooter is resting comfortably 'neath a pair of cedar trees, by my Cabin on the Hun Farm. One bright and shining Morning Without End, I will whistle for him and he will jump up and shake off the dirt, and away we will go. He, running about 20 feet in front of me, looking over his shoulder every so often to make certain I'm still there. How are things in your world? Eric The(Contented)Hun |
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So a buddy you shoot with talked to you at a roadblock? Let freedom ring!!! |
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So you are happy that you were illegaly detained by a group of cops on a fishing expedition?
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More desensitizing for future oppression.
Look at any public school, they are already training the children for it. GM |
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Shouldn't that be (NO knock) ? |
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I've run into several "Insurance checkpoints" in Albuquerque, particularly when I worked late nights. It's a fishing expedition pure and simple. While the cop at the door scrutinizes your registration, insurance card and asks you 20 questions about who you are, where you live, what you're doing......his two buddies are using portable 1,000,000 candle-light power searchlights to search your vehicle. They slowly walk the length of your vehicle, inspecting everything in it and have asked me what was in my briefcase or picnic cooler. I wouldn't have minded as much if they were actually doing some good. But on one ocassion, I couldn't find my insurance card because it had slipped between a gap in the glove box frame. I didn't get a ticket, just told to go home and find it. On another ocassion, I was battling a throat infection and using Listerine constantly, so had alcohol on my breath. My eyes were bloodshot from conjunctivitis, and I was dead tired from work. Clearly a candidate for an FST, but never was asked. I think most cops here are tired of our court's "catch-and-release" program for drunk drivers, and have stopped wasting their time arresting them. Keep in mind that around 50% of the drivers on the road in New Mexico have NO insurance, and around 12-15% are drunk. it's pretty clear the insurance check is just a cover for an unlawful stop and search, looking for drugs or other contraband. And I sure don't miss that BCSO helicopter doing low and slow warrantless searches of my property numerous times a month. I'm glad no one was seriously injured, but that was another flagrant abuse of power. |
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I was pulled over yesterday for passing two cars in a legal passing area. (legal in Washington)
The funny part was as soon as I had passed I saw the red lights in the mirror, so I pulled over to the right. One of the two slow-assed dumb fucks I had just passed (35 in a 55 mph zone) slowed down and really held up traffic while the other cement headed jackass pulled over and almost ran into the back of me, but missed because I pulled forward when I was the follies going on behind me. I moved about 50 yards up the road on the right with the emergency flashers on, dumb-ass kept following me while the cop kept trying to get around that shithead! When dumb-ass finally figured out that the cop wanted to pass him he swung off the road like he made a right hand turn. The cop finally had gotten to a point where was able to pull out to pass dumb-ass, except by then jackass deceided he had enough and passed the cop on a double yellow. As soon as he did that 4 other cars that had been behind me did the same thing, except the pulled out into oncoming traffic. I swear I thought the cop was going to have a Stg Hulka moment right there, and I figured that I was going to get the biggest ticket he could give to me. The cop was able to get the 4 morons to back off and wait, he had to honk his horn and crank up the siren to get dumb-ass to move out of his way. When the traffic cleared he came up to me (which by now I was laughing my ass off) and asked if I knew why I had been pulled over. I asked "was because I had passed the cars, because that's a legal passing lane, and the lead car was doing 35 in a 55, and there were 7 cars being held up, and there was no oncoming traffic..." He laughed at me and said I had all of the based covered, then he told me he pulled me over because I had passed two cars at once. I said "OK". Then he said "I guess that was not the best traffic stop I ever made" and started to laugh. He told me that I could go. |
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I'm sure your namesake would have been similarily thrilled to have been assumed guilty until proven innocent.
He would be very proud of you. |
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ETA I've never ran into any cops in a personal situation that were assholes without either having put them in that state of mind or seeing them having damn good reason for it. Except for here, they are lazy ass unprofessional asses except for ab out 5 or 6 of em and most of them are swat. |
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I have a bad day with cops just about every day. But then I'm a cop.
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