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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:04:09 PM EDT
I really liked that series but the problem was UPN kept moving it from slot to slot. Even when it was listed it often got pre-empted by sports events.
I lost count of how many time I made a point to watch Enterprise only to find it was moved to a new time or pre-empted and then UPN has the balls to complain about it's ratings. 
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:05:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Enterprise jumped the shark with the first episode. They contradicted TOS, TNG, DS9, and Voyager countless times.
I still say the Dark Universe episodes kicked ass. They should've done the entire show about that. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:08:31 PM EDT
[#2]
The producers should have been castrated for what they did to that series.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:10:59 PM EDT
[#3]
BIG +1 |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:14:56 PM EDT
[#4]
I lost interest in the franchise after the first season of Voyager. All the good sci-fi TV scripts have apparently been done.
Man, I have most of the original James Blish novelizations of the original Star Trek series ... That was (at times) some quality sci-fi. They may not have had the money or wherewithal to make the presentation look that great but the concepts behind the shows were top notch. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:21:00 PM EDT
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Ooookay, I'm not a trekie or anything so I really didn't base my "jump the shark" based on how it hashed out with all or any of the other Star Trek related productions. I guess if you are a trekie things like that are vitally important but I tend toward judging things like this on their own merit. Enterprise was a good show and IMHO it never jumped the shark but UPN never really gave it a chance. It was not as if one could tune in at a scheduled day or time and reasonably expect to see the show Enterprise. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:23:12 PM EDT
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On their last season not only did they jump the shark, but..
 Jumped them! The last episode almost made up for it, though. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:25:09 PM EDT
[#7]
I honestly expect it to get picked up by Sci-Fi next spring... I've heard quite a few rumors from people in the know that there are negotiations in place...
The series had a butt-load of potential... It just wasn't realized by UPN, much in the same vain as SG1 with HBO... |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:25:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Enterprise sucked from the get-go.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:44:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Dark Universe eps were frickin awesome, definitely the best of the series.
But they wiped all that goodness out with that moronic series ender with the 'flashbacks' with Riker and Troi. Amazingly stupid idea to end with. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:44:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Not the best "Star Trek" type series. One thing was the Captian was written to act like a WUSS!
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:47:51 PM EDT
[#11]
A dead on +1 |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:53:00 PM EDT
[#12]
Who the fuck comes up with phrases like " jump the shark"? Is there a career field for that...?
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:54:29 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm a damn foreigner, and even I know that one. 
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Posted: 8/19/2005 9:05:16 PM EDT
[#14]
"ever"?
 - From the very get-go when they shitcanned Three shows / some 20 seasons of continuity to introduce whole new alien species, major tech advances, and went for current-modern look to the ship / gear. The Concept was blown from the very beginning.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 11:24:07 PM EDT
[#15]
"Jump the shark" is a reference to the Happy Days Sitcom episode in which Fonzie on skies jumped a pit of sharks in an episode that was filmed in Hawaii. As a result "Jump the shark" is now an anacronym for the beginning of the end for a TV Series. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 11:32:17 PM EDT
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I'm thinking the whole damn Star Trek franchise is gonna be dead for quite some time.
Though I did hear of rumors of a new series for the future of Star Trek where everything isn't quite so neat, cheery, plentiful, and sterile. Some kind of Federation Economic Depression brought on by toooo many conflicts with T' Borg. Long Live Data. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 11:39:38 PM EDT
[#17]
Ah, I hate to tell you this, Data got blown up at the end of ST:Nemesis. Vulcan94 |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 11:48:25 PM EDT
[#18]
I'm no Tekki but I kinda liked the new show but UPN did help kill it by moving it around in the schedule too much and over rerunning it.
I think the show would have totally tanked if they went with the retro 60's look of the orig star trek with a space ship that looked like it was made from a velveta box hung from a string
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Posted: 8/20/2005 9:27:37 AM EDT
[#19]
The show was doomed from the get-go.
The idea of exploring "future's past" in a well definied series is self defeating. All of the aliens close to Earth in the ST universe are well known and the ships are supposed to travel slowly. This leaves them with very little room to do something new. The result was one slogging re-tread. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 9:46:08 AM EDT
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Ummm yea, that's true, Data is in bits now but the other Data is still up and running and his memory is on files. So they wrote themselves a way out of that one. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 10:09:59 AM EDT
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Sterling18,
I see we are both fans of Sledgehammer. Most awesome season ending cliffhanger of all times at the end of the first season. They not only jumped the shark, they blew it to kingdon come. Series premier episode was the best ever. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 10:12:38 AM EDT
[#22]
I thought it sucked a fat one from the start, I dont know anything about sharks.
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Posted: 8/20/2005 11:15:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2005 2:17:52 PM EDT
[#24]
Well maybe the fancy furiner could explain it to me. I have no idea what you people are talking about. It might as well be Greek. 
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Posted: 8/20/2005 2:57:42 PM EDT
[#25]
in the sense that B&B didn't even attempt to maintain continuity or the premis the show intiail had of showing the start of the federation
although the last season, when B&Bs involvement was much reduced the show really corrected a lot of the shit they did |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 3:13:34 PM EDT
[#26]
I liked Voyager as PC as it was but Enterprise was sucking big time.
I never got into Deep Space 9, I despised the Ferengi |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 3:21:50 PM EDT
[#27]
I agree with that. I liked the cast and that was about it. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 3:23:09 PM EDT
[#28]
I actually liked the show. Not the best, but good enough to download every episode and burn to DVD.
Voyager was my favorite series though. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 3:27:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Voyager was my favorite too, particularly the last two seasons. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 4:52:01 PM EDT
[#30]
They should have done a series with Starfleet Academy as the central theme
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:04:50 PM EDT
[#31]
The last episode sucked balls.
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:05:51 PM EDT
[#32]
fixed. great way to end the series. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:18:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Double fixed 
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:21:08 PM EDT
[#34]
You're kidding or on drugs, right? 
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:38:21 PM EDT
[#35]
you mean that TNG holodeck episode? what a shitty way to end a series |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:40:10 PM EDT
[#36]
DS9, especially from season 3 on, was the best of the treks hell, the ferengi were pretty much the last hold outs of capitalism in a socialist federation galaxy |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 5:58:14 PM EDT
[#37]
I dont think enterprise ever really jumped the shark. IMO they never really gave it a chance to.
Like others have said it was constantly preempted by sporting events and stuffed into time different slots. Shit i bet i didnt see 3/4 of the whole damm series casue of that shit. But oh man i got plenty of basketball and extreme (whatever) episodes though.  UPN can never get enough moiesha,sisters or lack of reality shows though. Who the hell watches that rot?  I think every ST series had its positive and negitive aspects but as a whole i liked them all. |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 6:06:22 PM EDT
[#38]
I see my flame bait was sucessful 
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Posted: 8/20/2005 6:45:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Enterprise was a good show. I just wish the Vulcan chick and he Japanese chick had gotten it on more often.
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Posted: 8/20/2005 6:56:57 PM EDT
[#40]
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/
Click the fanfiction section and read Conquest. Very well-written Star Trek/Star Wars crossover. One of the points made was that the Imperials couldn't comprehend how a socialist/communist regime like the Federation didn't collapse. "You mean you actually LIKE your little socialist utopia?!?!" |
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Posted: 8/20/2005 7:00:13 PM EDT
[#41]
I'd buy their season dvd sets if they didn't want $100 for each season. Phuck'em
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Posted: 8/23/2005 9:55:48 AM EDT
[#42]
We don't get UPN around here, so I was never able to catch an episode unless I was out of town. I think in spite of that I caught the same episode about three times.Limiting any ST shows to UPN ultimately hurts the series, in my opinion.
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Posted: 8/23/2005 10:00:16 AM EDT
[#43]
They jumped it AND HUMPED it !
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Posted: 8/23/2005 10:59:32 AM EDT
[#44]
I don't know. I'm still not old enough to rent a car.....
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Posted: 8/23/2005 11:15:30 AM EDT
[#45]
Enterprise was total utter SHIT.
What a retarded fucking space hippie piece of crap that was, worse than any other idealistic Star Trek there ever was. Deep Space 9 is the best of the lot when it comes to the Star Trek line, Voyager wasn't bad but I'd rank it under TNG. Atleast the various series from TNG, DS9, and Voyager could share cast members and had a relatively topical time line and one that could play off of events in the various movies they've done. Enterprise was such a collosal flop that it pretty much kills off any interest in future movies now that TNG cast is pretty much wrapped up and done with movies. The idiots responsible for Enterprise should be shot. The series that should have been should have followed a timeline that was at a point after the DS9 series, post-dominion war, possibly after the "Nemisis" movie. It would have been a better series. Cardasia would have been in ruins, much like modern day Iraq with a social power imbalance. The Federation would have found itself with a more interesting situation concerning the Romulans and that could put into jeapardy the alliance with the Klingons who have a long standing hatered of the Romulans(not to mention the standing with the Federation was tested to a certain extent in episodes of DS9). Plus the series could have expanded into the area of space controlled by what was once the Dominion and expanded upon a new found "humanity" of the founders. Not to mention it would have given the possibility of using the most characters bringing in favorites from any of the series from TNG, Voyager, or DS9. Again, ENTERPRISE WAS TOTAL SHIT! Only thing of any interest in the entire fucking series was how they tried to piece together the puzzle concerning why Klingons looked more human during the time of Kirk as opposed to the way they looked in Enterprise and again later in TNG. An episode of DS9 with the "tribles" has an interesting hint where Warf says, "We don't talk about it with outsiders." Good riddance to Enterprise. |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 11:18:29 AM EDT
[#46]
Dude, the Ferengi wind up being one of the strongest characters in the entire series once you get into the series. Early DS9 episodes had the Ferengi being quite terrible but the characters got better as the series went along. They weren't the "HUUU-MAN" muttering asswipes that they were in TNG, instead they kinda became the 3 stooges of the galaxy. There are some very good ferengi based episodes in DS9, the one where Quark goes to rescue his mother from the Dominion is pretty good. |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 11:21:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Yeah, no shit. Thats why I have downloaded DVD Images of TNG, DS9, and Voyager. |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 11:33:09 AM EDT
[#48]
I sure hope sci-fi gets it soon. UPN sucks. With rabbit ears I pick up multiple network stations from Dayton and Cinci where I live at. Two Fox, abc ,nbc, and wb channels but no UPN. My satalite company wants to charge me extra for UPN. Screw that! I have missed lots of good Startrek shows because of them.
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Posted: 8/23/2005 11:34:58 AM EDT
[#49]
They don't have the budget for it. |
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