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Posted: 8/17/2005 12:35:19 PM EDT
Might have to make some phone calls on this...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166018,00.html Texas Marine Told He's No Resident, Must Pay Higher Tuition Wednesday, August 17, 2005 AUSTIN, Texas — A decorated Marine (search) enrolling in college was shocked to learn his Texas driver's license, car registration and bank records weren't enough to get the lower resident tuition rates. Carl Basham (search) said officials at Austin Community College recently told him that he lost his Texas resident's status because of the years he spent out of state on two tours of duty in Iraq. Not having the in-state designation would mean paying around $2600 a semester in tuition, instead of about $500. The school's response surprised the 27-year-old Beeville native, who is registered to vote in Travis County, has a Texas driver's license and does his banking in Austin (search). Officials at the college said that Basham didn't meet state requirements as determined by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. A school spokeswoman says privacy laws prevent prevented her from commenting on his case. |
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This shit cannot stand. We've GOT to purge the fucking Politically Correct / LLLiberal bureaucrats from their nests in Academia and government.
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that's right give it to the mexicans. Our free trade agreement with mexico is one of the many reasons the dollar is getting finger-banged by the euro at the moment.
Someone should help this kid go to school. OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!! |
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I just left academia, but had I stayed I would have pushed for "ALL Veterans get in-state tuition WHERE-EVER-THE-HELL-THEY-WANT-TO-GO-TO-SCHOOL"
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http://www.austincc.edu/pres/
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Same bullshit here in the PRK.
If you're an |
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I said it the other day....time to start seeing liberals swinging from lamp posts.....
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Calling in T-10. |
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So I read on a local website that this likely won't amount to much. More a case of
some low paid flunky reading the rules and not smart enough to go to a supervisor for clarification than any kind of conspiracy. I think you'll see this one be fixed in pretty short order. That's the kind of decision making you get for $5 an hour...... All he got was a standard form letter from the school. Word is it will be taken care of shortly. |
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Email them too and copy and paste the story from above...
Any message sent to [email protected] will be forwarded immediately to all ACC trustees |
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Yeah. Excellent idea. And why are illegals getting instate tuition? |
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In many states, military service means you keep your state residency unless you specifically declare residency in another state. My first active duty station was Ft. Sill, Oklahoma, but I kept my Michigan residency then and even while I spent 4 years in Germany.
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This has been going on for years. Many states grant illegals in state tuition.
Edited to add: It was originally supposed to allow the children of illegals who had went through the public school system to go to college in the area they lived in. Feel gooders felt it was the right thing to do, since they were residents of that state. Like everything else it has been expanded to every illegal. Liberal 'giving away the far' puke maggots can't seem to understand that illegals shouldn't be rewarded with out tax money. But when did it ever bother a feel good liberal to give away other people's money. |
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I am more shocked that there are people who still think the general pool of U.S. Politicians represent American interest. Don't be surprised ... get mad at the scum that allow this in our name!
A better question is: "What is an American?" 1. Any foreigner who crosses the border? 2. Any foreigner who gets dual citizenship? (Can someone really be a citizen of two countries?) 3. Anyone born in the U.S. but puts Hispanic, African, whatever... in front of their country of birth. (America/n) On a side note: I got my Driver Lic. renewal today... You know in my state anyone can register to vote when getting a drivers lic. Hint.. These politicians know exactly what they are doing... when they want to give Drivers Lic. out like candy. |
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Well. You are in Cali. Why don't you start there. I agree with you, wholeheartedly. But I want to know how. How can we do it? Without the use of force on a national grassroots level. I don't know how. |
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Email sent...
Dear Board of Trustees: I recently read a disappointing story on FoxNews.com regarding Austin Community College. Carl Basham, a highly decorated marine is being denied in-state tuition even though he is a resident of the Great State of Texas. Along with proudly serving his country, Carl has demonstrated maturity and wisdom by enrolling in your college. Colleges and universities around the United States are promoting an agenda aiming for in-state tuition for ILLEGAL ALIENS. Because of its location, your college is on the front line of this issue. It is ironic and incomprehensible that at the same time a Patriotic American who severed this country heroically will be denied this privilege. To tell you the truth, I think your college could learn a lot from Carl. Therefore, I urge you to reconsider the decision. Please see the URL and story below for the facts as I know them. Sincerely, |
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Your home of record is where your 'residence' is considered. My brother just got out last year and was stationed in Pendleton for 4 years. He came back and went right to school. Something else sounds fishy here I know for a fact that your home of record is what they look for in situations like this. Geeze its not like he moved to Iraq on his own accord
STLRN should be able to give us some insight |
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Ditto. You think the ones with PhDs are idiots? That nothing compared to the actual tards hired to work registration, accounting, etc. 95% of them couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the bottom. |
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+1 |
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http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/12403480.htm
College tells veteran he is not a Texan By Jay Root Star-Telegram Austin Bureau AUSTIN - Carl Basham was born in Beeville, registered to vote in Travis County in 1998, holds a Texas driver's license and does his banking in Austin. So he was shocked when Austin Community College told him a few weeks ago that he didn't qualify as a Texas resident "for tuition purposes." Basham, a former Marine corporal, said he was even more shocked when officials told him why: After two tours of duty in Iraq, he's been out of the state too long to qualify. "They told me that I have to physically live in the state of Texas for at least a year," Basham said in an interview Tuesday. "It kind of hurts." Austin Community College officials were unable to specify why Basham isn't considered a Texas resident, only that he didn't meet state requirements as determined by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. A spokeswoman said privacy laws prevent a discussion of Basham's case. An official at another college said the fact that he entered the military in another state nearly a decade ago, despite his deep Texas ties, might be the reason. Either way, two state officials said bureaucratic technicalities should not prevent the decorated veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom from being considered a Texas resident -- and paying about $500 a semester in tuition instead of around $2,600. "Mr. Basham has gone to war for us, and I intend to go to war for him!" said state Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, in a letter to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. "We owe it to our returning service men and women to make it as easy and uncomplicated as possible for them to resume their normal lives." Likewise, state Rep. Suzanna Hupp, R-Lampasas, who represents many veterans serving at Fort Hood, said she wants to investigate the matter. "I think we need to look into it further. It doesn't make sense that people who have bullets flying over their head aren't treated properly when they get back," she said. The higher education board is investigating the case, an official there said. Basham, 27, said he has to come up with about $3,000 now to pay for tuition and books as he works toward a degree in emergency medical care. Although he expects to get his college paid for eventually by the federal government, he said those GI benefits won't kick in for several more months, so he's stuck with high out-of-pocket expenses for now. Basham's wife, Jolie, said an admissions officer at the college kept asking for documents proving his Texas residency. He brought in his driver's license, car registration papers, voter registration card, bank records and tax returns -- all sporting a Texas address. "She said, 'It's really your military service that's holding you back.' I couldn't believe that those words came out of her mouth," Jolie Basham, a California native, recalled. She said it stung her husband badly to be told he was not a Texan. "He's always Texas this and Texas that," she said. "It's always been his home." Jolie Basham remembered her husband's reaction when he got his car stolen last year while they were stationed in California at Camp Pendleton. She said the Texas plates had been removed and mangled, but Cpl. Basham refused to replace them. "He sat there and hammered 'em out and screwed them back on his car," she said. "He refused to get California plates." Basham, the son of an air traffic controller who often was tranferred around Texas as he moved up the career ladder, lived most of his youth in Waco. During his junior year, he followed his parents to Monroe, La., where he graduated from high school. It is there that he enlisted in the Marine Corps. Over two enlistments and eight years of service, Basham was awarded a Combat Action Ribbon, a Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and other decorations. He served as a driver and an auto mechanic in two tours of duty in Iraq, each lasting seven months, he said. Basham was honorably discharged from the Marines on Jan. 31. He said he got to Texas as fast as he could, but he had to stay in California until his wife, who had pregnancy complications, gave birth in May. The Texas Legislature has generally gone out of its way to ensure military veterans pay the lowest possible tuition. But it's not a perfect system, and some veterans end up falling through the bureaucratic cracks. Donna Darovich, spokeswoman for the Tarrant County College District, said the big problem is that Basham entered the service in Louisiana, even though he only lived 1 1/2 years there. "It basically doesn't matter if you've lived here all your life," she said. "Where you enlist is what kind of sets the stage for residency." Ray Grasshoff, a spokesman for the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, could not say how many returning service members face the problem Basham has encountered. But he said officials were looking into his case now. "Our staff is trying to talk to the ACC staff and trying to figure out what can be done if anything to resolve the issue," Grasshoff said. "We, of course, support veterans and all they do for the country and want to make sure they get all the benefits they're entitled to." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/1688241.html State Has Responsibility To Immigrants, Strayhorn Says Texas Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, who’s challenging Gov. Rick Perry in the 2006 GOP primary, says she thinks the state has a responsibility to provide educations and health care to immigrants once they’re in the state, legally or not. Strayhorn made the comments Wednesday to a conservative GOP group, the Greater Houston Pachyderm Club. Strayhorn also noted that federal law requires states to provide education and health care to immigrants. A spokesman for Perry says the governor has and will continue to remind the federal government that border security is a federal issue, not a state issue. She does good on one hand then shits in the other don't she? |
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I have a feeling a quick call from a JAG officer, threatening the entire weight of the Federal Legal Network to fall down upon the college will gain a quick re-evaluation.
Usually works, at any rate. NTM |
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Sounds like his home of record was LA at enlistment. He changed it to Texas at some point after that but never actually lived there. He was discharged in California, remaining there, then moving later to Texas.
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My email consisted of this:
Unbelievable! Either you are unaware of this problem, or too stupid to know better. Either way my children will never attend your establishment of lower learning. |
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I think we have the same BS situation in California.
Everything appears to be based on the year prior to the beginning of instruction. However, AFAIK, no CA resident away on duty has actually been denied the resident rate when they returned. |
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It appears Texas residency actually requires living in the state. a post office box or mail drop doesnt make you a resident. |
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Similar to here. He's my old JC from back in the day. www.dvc.edu/admissions/residency.htm |
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Couldnt agree more. |
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I know a lot of guys I served with caught on to the no state tax in Texas, I think their stupid rule might stem from that.
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Would this type of discrimination against a war veteran be a violation of the Soldier's and Sailor's Relief Act of 1940/1941? A VietNam vet.
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Everything is getting out of control. This site is a good hub for relatively like minded folks. We should start something.
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How is ACC Funded?
Austin Community College has three major sources of revenue: state, student tuition, and local property taxpayers. As state funding has decreased over the years, as shown below, local taxpayers and students have assumed a greater percentage of the college's funding formula. Source FY04 State reimbursement 31.8% Local Property tax 29.7% Tuition 36.3% Maybe they can help Veterans Affairs Manager: Mark Harden VA Administrative Assistant: Vicki Sanders 512/223-7574; Fax: 512/223-7963 Questions? Contact us at [email protected] |
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+1; I did the same thing when I was at Goodfellow AFB-got the idea from Papa Bush. Of course the real geniuses got themselves Alaska residency so they could get dividend checks while they were in. |
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I heard Michael Savage tonight say something about if this doesn't get worked out, he will pay the guy's tuition for a year out of his own pocket.
Say what you will about Savage.......... |
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Just more counterculture insanity from the low-IQ-left.
While at the university, liberals seek out the least rigorous, easiest majors, majors whose content is simply nonsense and bullshit that somebody just made up. They sit in class with the dumbest students at the university. They ARE the dumbest students at the university. After they graduate, with minds filled with fantasy, they think of themselves as 'intelligencia', as an intellectually superior elite, who are entitled to run the lives of everyone else. Somehow they never get it...dumb as a box of rocks before graduation = dumb as a box of rocks after graduation. But, they are just too dumb to understand that obvious truth. Send liberals to africa, millions of africans are starving. Can you say "long-pig"?? |
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Neither illegal nor legal aliens get in-state tuition in Texas. Have to be permanent resident or USC.
ETA: some legal nonimmigrants get in-state tuition, but not foreign students some illegal may attend comm. college but not for credit, different schools vary see Hazlewood info below for vets |
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I believe the reason they thought he was not a resident is on the basis of the Hazelwood-Hinson Act. This is an act of the Texas Legislature which provides for tuition assistance to certain veterans who originally enlist as citizens of Texas.
But this DOES NOT ESTABLISH RESIDENCY for tuition purposes. From the agency listed, this is a complete mistake.
Clearly, this is an error |
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When I was stationed at Ft Bliss, I got in state tuition even though I am still a WA resident.
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you just gave me a woody! |
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Well say it somewhere else. Murder is not an option to cure society's ills. |
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Just got a canned response from the college directing me to this
http://www.austincc.edu/pres/Message.htm
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Same here, canned response...
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Same here, they ,ust be swamped.
Thank you for your interest in Austin Community College. To read a message from ACC President Dr. Stephen B. Kinslow on this issue, please go to http://www.austincc.edu/pres/Message.htm Thank you, Veronica Obregon Communications Specialist II Public Information and College Marketing Austin Community College 5930 Middle Fiskville Rd. Austin, TX 78752 desk: 512-223-7596 cell: 512-658-0772 fax: 512-223-7272 |
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Tell that to the American rebels at Lexington, April 19, 1775. God save the Queen! |
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