f-15 with b-2 bomber

 Nice.  Air supperiority at its finest.

Wouldn't an escort defeat the whole notion of "stealth"?

Badass. I'll never forget having one of those fly over me.

I've never had the chance to see a B2 in person, so I'm really suprised how small they are when compared to an F15.  THought they'd be a lot bigger.

Quoted: Wouldn't an escort defeat the whole notion of "stealth"?

Nope, the f-15s 'hide' behind the b-2!!!

Quoted: I've never had the chance to see a B2 in person, so I'm really suprised how small they are when compared to an F15.  THought they'd be a lot bigger.

I had never seen one in person until my ROTC detachment visited Whiteman(sp?) AFB. It's a huge airplane, dimension wise it's not a monster compared to say, a B-1, but the thing is because of it's shape it has a giant area, it's deceptive how big it is.

Quoted: Quoted: I've never had the chance to see a B2 in person, so I'm really suprised how small they are when compared to an F15.  THought they'd be a lot bigger. I had never seen one in person until my ROTC detachment visited Whiteman(sp?) AFB. It's a huge airplane, dimension wise it's not a monster compared to say, a B-1, but the thing is because of it's shape it has a giant area, it's deceptive how big it is.

Come to think of it...F15s aren't exactly tiny either.  

Quoted: Wouldn't an escort defeat the whole notion of "stealth"?

Yes - but wait till the F-22s are escorting!!

Quoted: And Jack Northrop was a fucking genius!!! XB-35 Flying wing… (1943) Wing Span:  172 feet

I can't imagine trying to land one of those things.

Quoted: And Jack Northrop was a fucking genius!!! XB-35 Flying wing… (1943) Wing Span:  172 feet B2 Spirit… (1992) Wing Span:  172 feet It took 60 years to get there but get there they did!

Jack Northrup got the credit. Frank Morrison birthed the concept.

Quoted: Quoted: And Jack Northrop was a fucking genius!!! XB-35 Flying wing… (1943) Wing Span:  172 feet I can't imagine trying to land one of those things. gra.midco.net/mlgould/Early%20Bombers/XB-35%20Flying%20Wing.JPG

Yeah...notice the prominence, near the windscreen, of the relevent instruments, Artificial Horizon, TBI, V-speed indicator, and compass. Not much visibility, eh?

Quoted: Badass. I'll never forget having one of those fly over me.

The first one I saw flew right over me on final into Hill AFB.  It had to get really close before I realized what it was.  I have to say, as George Kostanza said after the massage, "It moved, Jerry."

C-5s and C-17s up close give me wood, too.  It's just impressive to see what our country can achieve.

Quoted:  Nice.  Air supperiority at its finest.

Air Supremacy.

Best thing is the 1st pic, the Herk in the background really makes it the best pic of them all

Quoted: Wouldn't an escort defeat the whole notion of "stealth"?

Something has to escort the tanker that feeds it...

I vote for the 2nd pic. Plane porn!

We've come a long way from this




To this  

Great Pics..Thanks

Resolution isn't as good, but I like this one too:



and this one:



oh, and this one :



from here

Quoted: I've seen one do a few flyovers… big and spookily quiet! ANdy

I had one pass a few hundred feet above me on landing approach and it was the loudest plane I've ever heard.  I would compare it to the three F4's in full afterburner that once passed a few hundred feet above me on take-off.  

If they can't see it (stealth), why does it need escorts?

you guys are welcome.

now as to why it is being escorted could have to do with it being daylight and it is a 20 billion dollar
aircraft.

could you imagine what the b-2 with the f-22 as an escort could do to certain countries military power.

Quoted: Quoted: I've seen one do a few flyovers… big and spookily quiet! ANdy I had one pass a few hundred feet above me on landing approach and it was the loudest plane I've ever heard.  I would compare it to the three F4's in full afterburner that once passed a few hundred feet above me on take-off.

It was moving at subsonic speed when it passed over me and it was quiet as well. You wouldn't have known it was there until the bombs were on you even at that low altitude.

Quoted: Great Pics..Thanks

hey dp can you imagine what it can do with 150 small diamater bombs with gps ouch.

wipe out a few city blocks at least.


SMB 250lber

Quoted: Wouldn't an escort defeat the whole notion of "stealth"?

They're retrofitting F-15s with Romulan cloaking devices.

IBTSHC
(I Beat The Super Hornet Comments)

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And Jack Northrop was a fucking genius!!! XB-35 Flying wing… (1943) Wing Span:  172 feet I can't imagine trying to land one of those things. gra.midco.net/mlgould/Early%20Bombers/XB-35%20Flying%20Wing.JPG Yeah...notice the prominence, near the windscreen, of the relevent instruments, Artificial Horizon, TBI, V-speed indicator, and compass. Not much visibility, eh?

By that reasoning there's no reason to design any aircraft with any more visibility than a submarine.  I guess Lindy had it right with the Spirit.  

I've seen a B2 at Edwards during one of their Open House airshows.

The B2 isn't small, it's just that the F15 that is freaking huge as well.     The damned F15 and F14s are just behemoths.

wow.  It never dawned on me that bombers still use escort...  I'm an idiot.  I always pictured these big SAC guys going it alone for 30 hours.....  Do they take fighter escort the whole way to the sandbox when they go?

if the one above this gave you guys wood then check this out

The Air Force bomber force in flight together. The B-2 Spirit is a multi-role bomber capable of delivering both conventional and nuclear munitions. The B-1B is a multi-role, long-range bomber, capable of flying intercontinental missions without refueling, then penetrating present and predicted sophisticated enemy defenses. It can perform a variety of missions, including that of a conventional weapons carrier for theater operations. Air Combat Command's B-52 is a long-range, heavy bomber that can perform a variety of missions. The bomber is capable of flying at high subsonic speeds at altitudes up to 50,000 feet. It can carry nuclear or conventional ordnance with worldwide precision navigation capability.


Bomber trio

here is the stats for the b-2 and f-15 so you guys can see their length height and width.

and here is linky to where i got the info

INFO
B-2 bomber
QUICKSTATS

Designation: B-2 Spirit (Stealth Bomber)
Type: Low observables strategic bomber
Manufacturer: Northrop Grumman
Country: United States
Service Date: 1997
Crew: 2 or 3

DIMENSIONS

Length: 21.03 m (69 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 52.43 m (172 ft 0 in)
Height: 5.18 m (17 ft 0 in)
Weight (Empty): 69,717 kg (153,700 lbs)
Weight (Loaded): 152,635 kg (336,500 lbs)


PERFORMANCE

Powerplant: 4 x 77.0kN (17,300lb) General Electric F118-GE-110 turbofans
Max Speed: 915km/h (495kt)
Max Range: 11,665 km (6,300 nm)
Service Ceiling: 50,000 ft
Rate of Climb: NA

ARMAMENT

Various:
16 x AGM-129 ACMs
16 x B61 or B83 strategic freefall nuclear bombs
80 x MK 82 bombs
16 x MK 84 bombs
16 x JDAMs
16 x GAMs
EGBU-28s
JSOWs
JASSMs


F-15

QUICKSTATS

Designation: F-15 Eagle
Type: Air Superiority Fighter
Manufacturer: McDonnell Douglas
Country: United States
Service Date: 1976
Crew: 1 (2 in F-15B/D)


DIMENSIONS

Length: 19.43 m (63 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 13.05 m (42 ft 10 in)
Height: 5.63 m (18 ft 6 in)
Weight (Empty): 12,793 kg (28,600 lbs)
Weight (Loaded): 30,845 kg (68,000 lbs)


PERFORMANCE

Powerplant: 2 x 65.3 kN (14,670 lb) dry and 105.7 kN (23,770 lb) with afterburning Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 turbofans.
Max Speed: Mach 2.5 or 2,655 km/h (1,433 kts)
Max Range: 5,745 km (3,100 nm)
Service Ceiling: 60,000 ft
Rate of Climb: 50,000 ft/min

ARMAMENT

1 x M61A1 20mm cannon
4 x AIM-7 Sparrow AAMs
2 x AIM-9 Sidewinder AAMs
2 x AIM-120 AMRAAM AAMs
Up to 7,257 kg (16,000 lbs) of various ordinance

or the F-15 stike eagle

QUICKSTATS

Designation: F-15E Strike Eagle
Type: Air-to-ground attack aircraft
Manufacturer: McDonnell Douglas Corporation
Country: United States
Service Date: 1988
Crew: 2


DIMENSIONS

Length: 63.8 ft (19.44 m)
Wingspan: 42.8 ft (13 m)
Height: 18.5 ft (5.6 m)
Weight (Empty): NA
Weight (Loaded): 81,000 lbs (36,450 kg)


PERFORMANCE

Powerplant: 2 x Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 or 229 turbofan engines with afterburners delivering 25,000 - 29,000 pounds each engine.
Max Speed: Mach 2.5
Max Range: 2,400 miles (3,840 km)
Service Ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,000 m)
Rate of Climb: NA

ARMAMENT

1 x 20mm multibarrel gun mounted internally with 500 rounds of ammunition.
4 x AIM-7F/M Sparrow missiles
4 x AIM-9L/M Sidewinder missiles
8 x AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles
Any air-to-surface weapon in the Air Force inventory (nuclear and conventional)

While the B-2 is awesome, no doubt, I still think the B-one is the sexiest beast in the air.

Quoted: While the B-2 is awesome, no doubt, I still think the B-one is the sexiest beast in the air.

want me to get you a bone picture got a few

Quoted: Quoted: While the B-2 is awesome, no doubt, I still think the B-one is the sexiest beast in the air. want me to get you a bone picture got a few

Better not, I may need to get up and walk around the office in a few minutes.  That could be embarrassing.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: While the B-2 is awesome, no doubt, I still think the B-one is the sexiest beast in the air. want me to get you a bone picture got a few Better not, I may need to get up and walk around the office in a few minutes.  That could be embarrassing.

ok i will post them later  check back after work.

i repeat i had nothing to do with the bone pic sweet pic though

Quoted: tinypic.com/a59a3p.jpg The Bone is the Baddass!

I have this painting in my home.

Quoted: I've never had the chance to see a B2 in person, so I'm really suprised how small they are when compared to an F15.  THought they'd be a lot bigger.

Ever see a B-29 or B-17 at an airshow?  Not very big, either.
And an F-15 is nearly 60' in length.

The real reason for this B2 and it's escort picture....they're both stuck at Anderson AFB for four months and it gives the PA guys something to do.

Quoted: Quoted: tinypic.com/a59a3p.jpg The Bone is the Baddass! I have this painting in my home.

Me too...Dru Blair rocks.

YB-49 traffic pattern

People, think photo op in the first couple of picks. The B2 would NOT be escorted by NON stealth fighters, and esp. not F15 Mudbugs. Those F15s are ground attack aircraft.


Cool pics tho.


EDIT TO Clarify: I know the B2 is not escorted in combat. I was just saying of all the aircraft in the US inventory, the F15E would be at the bottom of the list. Sheesh.

This pic, where the angle shows both wings, makes me think of the Angel of Death whenever I see it.

Quoted: f-15 with b-2 bomber i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/b2_escorted_1.jpg i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/b2_escorted_2.jpg i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/crazyhorse507/b2_escorted_3.jpg

are those the high res pics?