*video*Blackwater fire fight on roof top - Page 4

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Posted: 7/30/2005 6:04:17 PM EDT

[#1]

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I don't know shit. really. I know that was a fucking crap video. I have seen videos that would make your head spin. I saw a police sniper shoot a man in the head while he was holding his son at gun point. That video never made the news. I was 50 yards away.

Y'know ace, you're right. We need better video from our contractors over in the sandbox.

Why don't you contact Blackwater and tell them you want to go?

Oh wait, just ask Travis (SimplyDynamic). You see he has BEEN there and DONE that, BOTH for the USMC and Blackwater.

I'm sure he can give you the hookup.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:04:27 PM EDT

[#2]

everyone ignore this guy he dosent exsist....

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:04:28 PM EDT

[#3]

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did it make you guys hot when he said fucking niggers.

Why don't you take a fucking hike? You are not amusing at all if that's what you think. If you don't like the video, fine. Don't fucking watch it. But the rest of us don't seem to have any issue with it.

BTW, now I know what your problem is. You said you worked for a news agency for 5 years. That explains everything.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:05:17 PM EDT

[#4]

I don't work for liberals anymore. Why do you think I voted for bush and own guns. And an nra member. my cousin is sitting right here and he went to west point and saw action in the war. he says the video is not that good.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:05:44 PM EDT

[#5]

can the MODS shut this guy down for being an anit american?

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:06:14 PM EDT

[#6]

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I don't know shit. really. I know that was a fucking crap video. I have seen videos that would make your head spin. I saw a police sniper shoot a man in the head while he was holding his son at gun point. That video never made the news. I was 50 yards away.

Give you self a medal, dipshit. I've seen things taht would make you want to crawl back in your
mother's womb, but I'm not about to pass judgement on a soldiers video skills. What an idiot.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:06:22 PM EDT

[#7]

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:08:10 PM EDT

[#8]

valblade

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:09:13 PM EDT

[#9]

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I don't know shit. really. I know that was a fucking crap video. I have seen videos that would make your head spin. I saw a police sniper shoot a man in the head while he was holding his son at gun point. That video never made the news. I was 50 yards away.

Y'know ace, you're right. We need better video from our contractors over in the sandbox.

Why don't you contact Blackwater and tell them you want to go?

Oh wait, just ask Travis (SimplyDynamic). You see he has BEEN there and DONE that, BOTH for the USMC and Blackwater.

I'm sure he can give you the hookup.

ya bulldog I would love to hook this guy up and his west point cous for not beating his ass...you should know better boy!

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:09:50 PM EDT

[#10]

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valblade

Classic.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:12:47 PM EDT

[#11]

If nothing else, SOMEBODY please delete his post of 9:01:35.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:16:14 PM EDT

[#12]

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can the MODS shut this guy down for being an ~~anti-american~~ asshat?

There, fixed it for ya.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:20:20 PM EDT

[#13]

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That video sucked. I have seen better shoot outs in L.A on the news.
What was so great about it. Camera man sucked. What were they shooting at? you can't even see.
Wow! guys were shooting. Maybe if I was 18 and I saw a cool gun then I would get all hot and bothered.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:21:55 PM EDT

[#14]

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did it make you guys hot when he said fucking niggers.

Nice knowin' ya, dingleberry!

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:23:54 PM EDT

[#15]

This is gonna get locked with all the racism BS and that valdade jackass running his mouth.

Everyone needs to shut the heck up and enjoy the vid. i fyou dont liek it dont watch it, if you dont like the words used in combat dont watch it.

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:24:41 PM EDT

[#16]

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I don't work for liberals anymore. Why do you think I voted for bush and own guns. And an nra member. my cousin is sitting right here and he went to west point and saw action in the war. he says the video is not that good.

What valblade meant to originally post:
I am gay, and am sitting here queering my gay cousin. We are getting alot of action with each other and the video should be perfect for any she-male gay porn site

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:28:48 PM EDT

[#17]

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I worked for a news station for 5 years and I was scared to death somtimes when I heard shots ring out. I didn't say fucking niggers and say dumb things about the moon.

WTF?

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:32:19 PM EDT

[#18]

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Though i do not like racism in any form, I can forgive what was said in the heat of battle. I have never come under fire like that but I can imagine the words flowing out of anyone's mouth at the time is forgiveable. That's in response to #1.

All I said was that it was "politically incorrect". Way I figure it, if a feller is shootin' at me that gives me carte blanche to call him, his family, his genetic structure, and his dog whatever I see fit.

You want racism and political incorrectness? try this...............

and please right click and save as, it will kill my server if you dont.

209.200.17.142/images/ogrish-dot-com-500lb_bomb_hits_iraqi_building.wmv

Posted: 7/30/2005 6:45:21 PM EDT

[#19]

DACE- Thanks
Hell yeah bitches
See you in fucking hell!

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:01:26 PM EDT

[#20]

I wish I was there......

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:02:07 PM EDT

[#21]

That asshat gives tards a bad name.

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:04:32 PM EDT

[#22]

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Is it a fire fight if your not even taking return fire. How come no video of the gunships taking out any targets. I have seen way better videos than that.

Only a dumbass is gonna stand up and expose themselves to fire just so they can have a better home video. Besides, this wasn't a firefight where the enemy was just mere yards away where they could be easily seen. This engagement was taking place at pretty long range. Note the burning vehicle in the distance.

The proof is in the pudding and we saw the end result of the fighting at the end of the video.....insurgents sitting tied up in the back of a 5 ton truck (one of which was crying like a little bitch) with sandbags over their head.

As for the gunships? Maybe they never hit any targets. That might explain why there was no video.

BTW, I guess these Blackwater guys will be all heartbroken that you dislike their video shooting ability. Maybe you can go over and grab us some better quality ones.

Yes, they are a bunch of amateurs .....

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:05:38 PM EDT

[#23]

tagarooski

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:11:17 PM EDT

[#24]

.

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:12:04 PM EDT

[#25]

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Though i do not like racism in any form, I can forgive what was said in the heat of battle. I have never come under fire like that but I can imagine the words flowing out of anyone's mouth at the time is forgiveable. That's in response to #1.

All I said was that it was "politically incorrect". Way I figure it, if a feller is shootin' at me that gives me carte blanche to call him, his family, his genetic structure, and his dog whatever I see fit.

You want racism and political incorrectness? try this...............

and please right click and save as, it will kill my server if you dont.

209.200.17.142/images/ogrish-dot-com-500lb_bomb_hits_iraqi_building.wmv

What is racist about that?

Muj = Mujahadeen

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:13:09 PM EDT

[#26]

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[Better link!

direct link, just right click and save.

www.ece.msstate.edu/~dah7/Blackwater_in_Najaf.wmv

hosted on a university server, so get your tax dollars worth.

thanks for the link

Link not working...

+1

ETA: Anyone have a direct download yet, I'm dyin' over here!

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:16:09 PM EDT

[#27]

Good video, hoped they kicked some ass. Everyone should simply ignore the troll. He has seen much worst in the streets of LA we all know how fucked up LA is [:o)

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:17:30 PM EDT

[#28]

Thanks tc6969.

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:23:12 PM EDT

[#29]

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SD, any chance you have the Little Bird Vid that was done by some video company out in IIRC Cali?

yeah..I've got that one on my HDD, it's kinda large, who knows of a good host? Let me know, I'll upload it.

Posted: 7/30/2005 7:34:46 PM EDT

[#30]

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You want racism and political incorrectness?...

Doesn't everyone?!

209.200.17.142/images/ogrish-dot-com-500lb_bomb_hits_iraqi_building.wmv

Good vid, but I have a feeling a certain someone saw, "Better bombings" when he was, "A reporter in L.A."

Posted: 7/30/2005 10:20:04 PM EDT

[#31]

More vids please.

Posted: 7/30/2005 11:02:12 PM EDT

[#32]

These vids are becoming addictive.

Posted: 7/30/2005 11:03:46 PM EDT

[#33]

"how" big???? I can host it for a bit anyway...

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SD, any chance you have the Little Bird Vid that was done by some video company out in IIRC Cali?

yeah..I've got that one on my HDD, it's kinda large, who knows of a good host? Let me know, I'll upload it.

Posted: 7/31/2005 4:57:46 AM EDT

[#34]

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These vids are becoming addictive.

+1, brother.

Posted: 7/31/2005 5:17:52 AM EDT

[#35]

This is the SECOND time valblade has stuck his head neck deep into something he obviously has no clue about. Valblade, this video was simply just a few minutes worth of a fight that lasted HOURS, with enough ordnance sent downrange that they had to be resuppied by helicopter at least once (maybe twice, I foget now) with more ammo. This was about 12 men fighting off HUNDREDS of enemy attackers. There is a steak dinner at my expense waiting for EVERY SINGLE ONE of those guys if I ever meet them. One for sure is going to get his dinner if I have to go drag him to it.

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:00:35 AM EDT

[#36]

The little bird vid is the shiznit, someone please host it as I lost my copy in a HD crash

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:18:18 AM EDT

[#37]

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This is the SECOND time valblade has stuck his head neck deep into something he obviously has no clue about. Valblade, this video was simply just a few minutes worth of a fight that lasted HOURS, with enough ordnance sent downrange that they had to be resuppied by helicopter at least once (maybe twice, I foget now) with more ammo. This was about 12 men fighting off HUNDREDS of enemy attackers. There is a steak dinner at my expense waiting for EVERY SINGLE ONE of those guys if I ever meet them. One for sure is going to get his dinner if I have to go drag him to it.

Holy shit!

That did not show in this video, but is an element that I wish had been mentioned earlier as it changes the perspective - a lot.

those men will be sharing that with their children /grandchildren for generations.

F**ing Awesome!

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:24:15 AM EDT

[#38]

taggage

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:26:46 AM EDT

[#39]

I believe there is still more to the story. . . . The helicopter resupplies may not have been authorized, because the military and/or BW didn't think these guys were going to make it. From what I've heard the helo pilots and the 12 men were truly heroic. My hope is that someone writes a book or makes a movie about the experience. We are always in short supply of true heroes.

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:35:56 AM EDT

[#40]

Great vid.

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:37:24 AM EDT

[#41]

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[Better link!

direct link, just right click and save.

www.ece.msstate.edu/~dah7/Blackwater_in_Najaf.wmv

hosted on a university server, so get your tax dollars worth.

thanks for the link

Link not working...

+1

ETA: Anyone have a direct download yet, I'm dyin' over here!

ANYONE!!!!!

Posted: 7/31/2005 6:38:14 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
I don't think the comment everyone is refering to is actually racist. Listen closely just a few moments before that comment is made. You'll hear a black guy say: "Hey white boy, you need a magazine". Then soon after the comment follows.

My guess? These two guys were good friends and they were just harassing each other. Both were probably grinning ear to ear when they were saying that stuff. I view it as no biggie. Just one of those "inside" things you'd have to be there to understand. I highly doubt the guy who uttered that is really a raging racist.

BTW, that was a pretty kick ass video. It was worth the wait to download.

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WOW, did that guy call Iraqies the "N WORD"?

Negative.

As I pointed out before, listen to the video again carefully. That exchange was between him and another guy in his unit.

After the initial volley of fire, I hear a voice (either an actual black guy or a white guy acting goofy and being all ghetto like) say: Hey white boy, you need another magazine? Following that, there is some rustling around as the guys reload. Then came the comment...."effing N'ers!". When the camera pans around to the guys faces, that one has the biggest shit eating grin on his face you ever saw. Nothing was meant by this, that much I am almost sure of.

IMHO, this was just two friends pestering each other and nothing more. I doubt there was any actual racism intended. Just some razzing among friends. It was not directed at the insurgents (otherwise "sand" would have preceded the N part) and it was not directed at blacks in general either. It was just a goofy comment made in the heat of battle among buddies. Nothing more. I don't think we should be concerned or read anything more into it.

Thanks for clearing that up...

I didn't hear or see that part...

Posted: 7/31/2005 10:36:41 AM EDT

[#43]

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This is the SECOND time valblade has stuck his head neck deep into something he obviously has no clue about. Valblade, this video was simply just a few minutes worth of a fight that lasted HOURS, with enough ordnance sent downrange that they had to be resuppied by helicopter at least once (maybe twice, I foget now) with more ammo. This was about 12 men fighting off HUNDREDS of enemy attackers. There is a steak dinner at my expense waiting for EVERY SINGLE ONE of those guys if I ever meet them. One for sure is going to get his dinner if I have to go drag him to it.

Holy shit!

That did not show in this video, but is an element that I wish had been mentioned earlier as it changes the perspective - a lot.

those men will be sharing that with their children /grandchildren for generations.

F**ing Awesome!

Exactly. Its but a few minutes of a long and extraordinary fight. It doesnt even come close to showing the whole ordeal. It aint hollywood, it was for real, and as you can see here people like to spout off about things they do not know the whole story behind. Heck I dont even know the whole story, but I dang sure know enough to be proud as hell of these guys and what they did.

Posted: 7/31/2005 11:01:02 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

As being one of the 11 guys on the roof those few intense days ...
Thanks,

TH
BW Counter Sniper/Najaf Iraq

... thank you for your service

Posted: 7/31/2005 11:06:12 AM EDT

[#45]

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This is the SECOND time valblade has stuck his head neck deep into something he obviously has no clue about. Valblade, this video was simply just a few minutes worth of a fight that lasted HOURS, with enough ordnance sent downrange that they had to be resuppied by helicopter at least once (maybe twice, I foget now) with more ammo. This was about 12 men fighting off HUNDREDS of enemy attackers. There is a steak dinner at my expense waiting for EVERY SINGLE ONE of those guys if I ever meet them. One for sure is going to get his dinner if I have to go drag him to it.

Holy shit!

That did not show in this video, but is an element that I wish had been mentioned earlier as it changes the perspective - a lot.

those men will be sharing that with their children /grandchildren for generations.

F**ing Awesome!

I dont know if this was posted yet or not but here is a link to a story about that day.

home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=75750&ran=122276

Posted: 7/31/2005 11:06:14 AM EDT

[#46]

Read and learn people.

Private Guards Repel Attack on U.S. Headquarters

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 6, 2004; Page A01

An attack by hundreds of Iraqi militia members on the U.S. government's headquarters in Najaf on Sunday was repulsed not by the U.S. military, but by eight commandos from a private security firm, according to sources familiar with the incident.

Before U.S. reinforcements could arrive, the firm, Blackwater Security Consulting, sent in its own helicopters amid an intense firefight to resupply its commandos with ammunition and to ferry out a wounded Marine, the sources said.

The role of Blackwater's commandos in Sunday's fighting in Najaf illuminates the gray zone between their formal role as bodyguards and the realities of operating in an active war zone. Thousands of armed private security contractors are operating in Iraq in a wide variety of missions and exchanging fire with Iraqis every day, according to informal after-action reports from several companies.

In Sunday's fighting, Shiite militia forces barraged the Blackwater commandos, four MPs and a Marine gunner with rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47 fire for hours before U.S. Special Forces troops arrived. A sniper on a nearby roof apparently wounded three men. U.S. troops faced heavy fighting in several Iraqi cities that day.

The Blackwater commandos, most of whom are former Special Forces troops, are on contract to provide security for the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) in Najaf.

With their ammunition nearly gone, a wounded and badly bleeding Marine on the rooftop, and no reinforcement by the U.S. military in the immediate offing, the company sent in helicopters to drop ammunition and pick up the Marine.

The identity of the Marine and two other wounded men could not be established, but their blood was still fresh hours later, when the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, and spokesman Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt arrived to survey the battle zone.

Without commenting at a news conference yesterday on the role of the Blackwater guards, Kimmitt described what he saw after the fighting ended. "I know on a rooftop yesterday in An Najaf, with a small group of American soldiers and coalition soldiers . . . who had just been through about 3 1/2 hours of combat, I looked in their eyes, there was no crisis.

"They knew what they were here for," he continued. "They'd lost three wounded. We were sitting there among the bullet shells -- the bullet casings -- and, frankly, the blood of their comrades, and they were absolutely confident."

During the defense of the authority headquarters, thousands of rounds were fired and hundreds of 40mm grenades shot. Sources who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of Blackwater's work in Iraq reported an unspecified number of casualties among Iraqis.

A spokesman for Blackwater confirmed that the company has a contract to provide security to the CPA but would not describe the incident that unfolded Sunday.

A Defense Department spokesman said that there were no military reports about the opening hours of the siege on CPA headquarters in Najaf because there were no military personnel on the scene. The Defense Department often does not have a clear handle on the daily actions of security contractors because the contractors work directly for the coalition authority, which coordinates and communicates on a limited basis through the normal military chain of command.

The four men brutally slain Wednesday in Fallujah were also Blackwater employees and were operating in the Sunni triangle area under more hazardous conditions -- unarmored cars with no apparent backup -- than the U.S. military or the CIA permit.

One senior Blackwater manager has described those killings to U.S. government officials as the result of a "high-quality" attack as skilled as one that can be mounted by U.S. Special Forces, according to a copy of a report on the incident obtained by The Washington Post.

The four victims of that attack, according to Blackwater spokesman Chris Bertelli, were escorting trucks carrying either food or kitchen equipment for Regency Hotel and Hospitality. Regency is a subcontractor to Eurest Support Services (ESS), a division of the Compass Group, the world's largest food service company.

ESS provides food services to more than a dozen U.S. military dining facilities in Iraq, according to news accounts.

Blackwater, a security and training company based in Moyock, N.C., prides itself on the high caliber of its personnel, many of whom are former U.S. Navy SEALs. It has 450 employees in Iraq, many of them providing security to CPA employees, including the U.S. administrator, L. Paul Bremer, and to VIPs visiting Iraq.

Blackwater has applied to occupy a former MIG air base near Baghdad as a counterterrorism training facility for Iraqi forces. The training range will mirror the 6,000-acre Moyock site, which is frequented by U.S. law enforcement and military personnel.

Posted: 7/31/2005 11:13:18 AM EDT

[#47]

Good link Dace.

Posted: 7/31/2005 11:20:45 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
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As being one of the 11 guys on the roof those few intense days ...
Thanks,

TH
BW Counter Sniper/Najaf Iraq

... thank you for your service

Absolutly, glad you got home safe. Thank you for your service.

Posted: 7/31/2005 1:45:41 PM EDT

[#49]

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DACE- Thanks
Hell yeah bitches
See you in fucking hell!

ahaha I love that one

Posted: 7/31/2005 1:52:10 PM EDT

[#50]

The Marine on the corner with the SAW was shot shortly after the picture was taken...he was OK we called for medivac and the Army (Gen Sanchez) wouldnt authorize a Medivac. so we put him in our little birds and flew him 70 mi north back to Baghdad and then rearmed and flew right back down.

here is the story in a nutshell:

The 5 man BW crew that was assinged tto CPA Najaf were coming under heavy small arms and mortor fire, the city was being taken over by insurgents. The Police stations and hospitals were taken by as well, after a day of fighting off hundreds of insurgents the city had been completly overran, with the CPA in the heart of the city and no way out.

the Team called up to Baghdad and reported the situation. they said they needed immediate extract which Gen Sanchez also denined due to the fact the city had been overran and they were no US troops there, only contractors. Well Ambassador Bremer was pissed at sanchez and I remember being on office watch during the massive arguments! ambassador bremer and our Baghdad TM Leader got together and Bremer said "I dont want another Bridge hanging! Get those boys out of there by any means nessassary!" so 12 of us 6pilots and 6 gunners loaded as much as we could in 3 MD530 little birds and headed 70 miles south. we flew in the first day and blind (no comms, and no intel on the heat) to try a resupply, land find out was was going on and then head back, rearm and get ready to go again. Well that night all hell broke lose and we flew back in. Over 1000 insurgents (reported by the F18 pilots) had taken the city and now wanted the CPA after a day of intense fighting by 11 BW guys, airstrikes, a handfull of Marines and 1 sniper

we were able to hold them off. After it DIED down and gunships and SF guys finnally started to roll in the battle was soon over and we the CPA was saved.
That pretty much it in a nut shell...

TH

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