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Posted: 7/11/2001 9:38:47 AM EDT
and I had to keep telling myself that it was all computer graphics!  Damn cool flick[heavy]
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 11:23:21 AM EDT
[#1]
I am going to see that myself - looks REALLY cool!

Tyler
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 11:55:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Who won? Good or Evil?
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 12:02:34 PM EDT
[#3]
im gonna see it too.  check out the movie trailer:

[url]http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/final_fantasy/[/url]

i agree... looks awesome.
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 12:12:46 PM EDT
[#4]
if the graphics were any more real then you couldn't tell it was computer generated. I want to see it.
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 2:20:24 PM EDT
[#5]
I loved it too, although most of the people that I saw it with didn't like the story. I thought the story was secondary to the real gemstone of the movie, "Visual Graphics". I found the story fairly easy to follow unlike most Anime feature films. I saw it with my coworkers, all CG artists/animators, so we can be too nit picky with minute details that everyone else will probably ignore. I really wonder how the general public will like watching cyber actors. I hope it does well. It is definately the best, most visually stunning movie I've seen in a long time. "two thumbs up" from this CG animator.
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 3:42:52 PM EDT
[#6]
i dont giva crap about the graphics how was the plot?
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 5:45:40 PM EDT
[#7]
The plot was predictable and standard, according to my friend.

This friend was also a computer animator for Square (company that made Final Fantasy), on the Playstation game.  He emailed me this .jpg of the film's heroine, Aki
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1405922&a=10508531&p=51676149&Sequence=0&res=high[/img]
Link Posted: 7/11/2001 7:56:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Just got back from seeing it with the wife. The first 20 minutes was blury due to the mental midget running the projector. Other than that awesome graphics.

idaho-ar15
Link Posted: 7/12/2001 10:01:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Just got home from seeing it (hey I was bored on a Thursday night).

Good and bad and worse.

Good: The visual effects are incredible. This medium is going to give the standard special effects guys something to worry about.

Bad: The plot. Very thin, wouldn't make the 'Z' list on a paperback science fiction story. The relationship between Aki and Gray, standard love, pissed off, uncertain, trusting, back to love story. The main story is about good and evil, of course good wins (sorry if that ruins it for anyone, but when was the last time you saw a movie when evil wins?).

Worse: The voice overs. There are just some actors that are just not ment to do animation voice overs.

Alec Baldwin (voice for Gray) is definately one of them. Even when he is doing live acting, he is bad, but doing voice overs is worse.

Oddly enough Donald Southerland shouldn't be doing voice overs. Between these two it felt like they were just reading a book to a 6 year old. Just plain, with no emotion. Or forced emotion.

Ving Rames has the potential for doing voice overs, along with Steve Buscemi. Although you could tell that they are used to interacting with other people when they do their lines. Remember when doing voice overs, the actors are generally in a sound booth by themselves. Or at least it felt that way for this movie.

Over-all: A horizontal thumb.
Half way through the movie I gave up on the story and started fantasizing about other stories that could be done extremely well with the new computer animation shown here. Oddly Storm Ship Troopers would have been perfect, in my opinion, or any good sci-fi story. The ability to truely show new and different worlds (landscape, and vehicles) that are believable is awe inspireing, along with the sur-real fluid motion human movement (facial expressions do need more work).

So if you want a sneek peek at what the future of motion pictures will be like, go see this movie. If you want to be entertained with a good story, and good acting, go get a good book, preferably something from Heinlein [;)]
Link Posted: 7/12/2001 10:57:32 PM EDT
[#10]
well im getting a screener copy of this soon so ill have my review up course u should take it with a grain of salt as i love teh FF series
Link Posted: 7/13/2001 10:28:01 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
The plot was predictable and standard, according to my friend.

This friend was also a computer animator for Square (company that made Final Fantasy), on the Playstation game.  He emailed me this .jpg of the film's heroine, Aki
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1405922&a=10508531&p=51676149&Sequence=0&res=high[/img]
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Yeah, that sure is a fine red x you got there raven...
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 7:21:36 AM EDT
[#12]
To bad they didn't put this in the movie... WOW

Warning: CG [s]nudity[/s].[blue]porn[/blue].

[ Edited By STRIKER on 7/14/2001 2:50:41 PM ]

Dang... didn't think it was that bad. I guess CG is just as bad as photos now days. Just goes to show how far the medium as come along.

I thought links with warnings were allowed, guess not.

But video of be-headings are??? Personally would rather look at a beautiful computer generated woman, than a soldier loosing his head. Oh well.
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:40:01 AM EDT
[#13]
Is the porn link really necessary, and even realvant??
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 2:29:10 PM EDT
[#14]
Ok since the nude/porn version of Aki wasn't appreciated.

This is an example of the quality of the CG work.

[img]http://www.darkhorizons.com/news9/gray.jpg[/img]

Again this was not in the movie, but it is just fasinating to me the quality of the rendering done.

The rumor is that these images were done by in off times during the production. But there are discussions on the legitimacy of these photos.

Well I am done spouting off, no more.
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 2:34:25 PM EDT
[#15]
well the Aki pic with here in a bikini on the cover of  maxim was real it was a promo they gave away at E3 (electronics entertanment expo)
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 3:03:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Striker, why was "Guzzlers" picture porn? Did I miss somthing? Did he change the pic since the last time I seen it? I'm talking about the nude pic. She was'nt touching herself, she was just standing there. No caps, no gestures. Please enlighten me.
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 6:25:36 PM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By SILVER SURFER:
Striker, why was "Guzzlers" picture porn? Did I miss somthing? Did he change the pic since the last time I seen it? I'm talking about the nude pic. She was'nt touching herself, she was just standing there. No caps, no gestures. Please enlighten me.
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If you are going to show a guy with his shirt off, you have to be able to show a woman with her shirt off... otherwise its descrimination, not to mention revealing the gender prefrences of the editor...
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 6:30:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Just got home from seeing it (hey I was bored on a Thursday night).

Good and bad and worse.

Good: The visual effects are incredible. This medium is going to give the standard special effects guys something to worry about.

Bad: The plot. Very thin, wouldn't make the 'Z' list on a paperback science fiction story. The relationship between Aki and Gray, standard love, pissed off, uncertain, trusting, back to love story. The main story is about good and evil, of course good wins (sorry if that ruins it for anyone, but when was the last time you saw a movie when evil wins?).

Worse: The voice overs. There are just some actors that are just not ment to do animation voice overs.

Alec Baldwin (voice for Gray) is definately one of them. Even when he is doing live acting, he is bad, but doing voice overs is worse.

Oddly enough Donald Southerland shouldn't be doing voice overs. Between these two it felt like they were just reading a book to a 6 year old. Just plain, with no emotion. Or forced emotion.

Ving Rames has the potential for doing voice overs, along with Steve Buscemi. Although you could tell that they are used to interacting with other people when they do their lines. Remember when doing voice overs, the actors are generally in a sound booth by themselves. Or at least it felt that way for this movie.

Over-all: A horizontal thumb.
Half way through the movie I gave up on the story and started fantasizing about other stories that could be done extremely well with the new computer animation shown here. Oddly Storm Ship Troopers would have been perfect, in my opinion, or any good sci-fi story. The ability to truely show new and different worlds (landscape, and vehicles) that are believable is awe inspireing, along with the sur-real fluid motion human movement (facial expressions do need more work).

So if you want a sneek peek at what the future of motion pictures will be like, go see this movie. If you want to be entertained with a good story, and good acting, go get a good book, preferably something from Heinlein [;)]
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The biggest problem with American actors and voice overs is the system we use here for ADR work, each actor reads his or her lines alone in a sound room, while watching the film on a screen.  The result is, normally, that they sound like they are reading a book or doing a TV commericial.

In Japan, they have a much better method.  The voices are recorded with all the actors togeather on a single sound stage.  They can interact with each other and even ad lib.
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 6:44:59 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
The biggest problem with American actors and voice overs is the system we use here for ADR work, each actor reads his or her lines alone in a sound room, while watching the film on a screen.  The result is, normally, that they sound like they are reading a book or doing a TV commericial.

In Japan, they have a much better method.  The voices are recorded with all the actors togeather on a single sound stage.  They can interact with each other and even ad lib.
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sounds like u like subbed anime also
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:22:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The biggest problem with American actors and voice overs is the system we use here for ADR work, each actor reads his or her lines alone in a sound room, while watching the film on a screen.  The result is, normally, that they sound like they are reading a book or doing a TV commericial.

In Japan, they have a much better method.  The voices are recorded with all the actors togeather on a single sound stage.  They can interact with each other and even ad lib.
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sounds like u like subbed anime also
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Generally yes, however VIS usually turns out good dubs, at least their Ranma dubs are good.  But Trish Ledoux who started/runs VIS studied for eight years in Japan, supposedly she voiced a couple lines (in Japanese) for a bit part in Gunbuster!  I have a feeling that VIS uses the Japanese method for its redubs- or are MUCH better at editing and preparing its VA's ahead of time.
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:24:38 PM EDT
[#21]
hey arm u in tucson area we need to hook up sometime
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:29:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
To bad they didn't put this in the movie... WOW

Warning: CG [s]nudity[/s].[blue]porn[/blue].

[ Edited By STRIKER on 7/14/2001 2:50:41 PM ]

Dang... didn't think it was that bad. I guess CG is just as bad as photos now days. Just goes to show how far the medium as come along.

I thought links with warnings were allowed, guess not.

But video of be-headings are??? Personally would rather look at a beautiful computer generated woman, than a soldier loosing his head. Oh well.
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I dont suppose you could e-mail the link for the nude Aki, I didnt get to see it before our friend Cotton Mather censored it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:36:04 PM EDT
[#23]
warning nudidty
better ill just post a link to it
i hope it works
[url]ubb.mcuzi.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000605[/url]

if not heres another one direct link this time

[url]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/026/Wa/ze/cY/C011207.jpg[/url]
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:39:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
warning nudidty
better ill just post a link to it
i hope it works
[url]ubb.mcuzi.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000605[/url]

if not heres another one direct link this time

[url]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/026/Wa/ze/cY/C011207.jpg[/url]
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Thanks!
Oh I see what happend, it wasnt that there was nudity- it was censored because it linked to a McUzi site![;D]
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 10:51:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Wow!@!!

Can you imagine what this means for the porn industry!!!
Link Posted: 7/14/2001 11:28:22 PM EDT
[#26]
Yeah, no more 'fluff' girls!  Dirk Diegler will always be, ahem, ready.

Eric The(NotThatIWouldWatchSuchFilth)Hun[>]:)]

Link Posted: 7/15/2001 12:44:28 AM EDT
[#27]
yeah really mhmmmmmmm animated babes
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