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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:38:04 PM EDT
[#1]
We don't really know that this is true. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:38:59 PM EDT
[#2]
He is yesterdays news --------
maybe the pack here will get it soon, then , maybe not. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:39:10 PM EDT
[#3]
There is entirely too much of "You know what I mean!" being used as a crutch.
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:39:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Yeah, that's why he has the number one rated talk show on radio, right? 
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:40:13 PM EDT
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Who say's so ??? |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:42:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Don't want to start a war, but YES we DO know that it is true! |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:43:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Rik, I think cyanide was talking about Rush not being #1 on HIS radio 
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:44:37 PM EDT
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Don't parents (most of them anyway) take care of their children? If you were dropped off in the forest at age 10 wouldn't you seek shelter just like an animal? Anymore, all of our basic needs are at our fingertips and thus we don't really need to use our instincts. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:44:53 PM EDT
[#9]
What color is the sky in your world? 
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:46:19 PM EDT
[#10]
Can't listen to him... That irrogance of his just irks me. So flame away...
Try listening to this... Michael Savage You might not agree with everything he says, but he's straight shooter that's not afraid to criticize anyone. EPOCH |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:46:38 PM EDT
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Humor me, I'm just a hillbilly, but regarding reflexes: What about the gag reflex? or the rubber hammer on the knee reflex? In my opinion, there may be a large psychological difference between "intuition" and "instinct", but there is not a great grammatical difference. In fact, the Mirriam-Webster dictionary makes the very "mistake" you mentioned while giving an example(see Instinct, definition 1): Main Entry: in·tu·i·tion Pronunciation: "in-tu-'wi-sh&n, -tyu- Function: noun Etymology: Middle English intuycyon, from Late Latin intuition-, intuitio act of contemplating, from Latin intuEri to look at, contemplate, from in- + tuEri to look at 1 : quick and ready insight 2 a : immediate apprehension or cognition b : knowledge or conviction gained by intuition c : the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference Main Entry: 1in·stinct Pronunciation: 'in-"sti[ng](k)t Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Latin instinctus impulse, from instinguere to incite; akin to Latin instigare to instigate 1 : a natural or inherent aptitude, impulse, or capacity <had an instinct for the right word> 2 a : a largely inheritable and unalterable tendency of an organism to make a complex and specific response to environmental stimuli without involving reason b : behavior that is mediated by reactions below the conscious level ETA: Here's Mirriam-Webster Online |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:46:53 PM EDT
[#12]
poor Rush, the damage is done...
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:47:27 PM EDT
[#13]
Got to go with EPOCH here ------ Rush is a junkie. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:47:28 PM EDT
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Hand away from fire, ...yeah, that's what Rush had in mind....
So what instincts and pre-programmed behaviours do humans have? I think they are: 1. A few reflexes such as baby sucking nipple, hand that pulls away from fire, eye that blinks to flying objects etc. 2. A multitude of learnt pliable instincts = mindrules. 3. One inherited instinct, which is to make mindrules in the cortex according to the principles of the interaction desire or parsimony. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:47:30 PM EDT
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wrong! humans have instincts just like any other animal. we know what clean water looks and tastes like. we know what bad food smells like. these arnt things we have to be taught, we just KNOW. thats instinct. noone has to tell us our shit stinks and we shouldnt be around it. WE JUST KNOW. i know when someone hits my knee my reflex is to kick it. ive had doctors do this to me before. ... so this isnt a reflex? we also have learned reflexs called muscle memory. some google searches: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553814923/202-5183384-4383864 http://www.discoverychannelasia.com/humaninstinct/ "Though anthropologists, psychologists and psychiatrists all have their differing criteria, instincts can basically be defined as any kind of behavior that is natural as opposed to learned or acquired. Most instincts relate to the two basic needs for nutrition and reproduction – food and sex. The fact is, we are born with a set of instincts, courtesy of our animal ancestors. We need them to survive. They are what compels a newborn baby to open its mouth and take its first breath, to reach for its mother’s breast and suckle, to curl its toes when a hand touches the sole of its foot… reflex responses that are all part and parcel of the package deal called life. Let’s explore human nature and see how those two universal drives – to eat and to mate – are manifest in our modern society." |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:47:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Sorry, I am not going to take your word for it. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:47:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:48:54 PM EDT
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Yeah...because NO ONE has EVER gotten hooked on pain meds before, right? Only scumbags get hooked on pain meds when they are prescribed them...like Brett Favre for instance. You're so pitifully predictable. And so predictably pitiful. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:50:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Will you take Arbitron's?
www.drudgereport.com |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:50:58 PM EDT
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At least he doesn't say "irregardless". I HATE IT when people use that nonword.
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:51:09 PM EDT
[#21]
We talking about me ------------------- or Rush ??? |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:52:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Umm...you're talking to the wrong guy. I wasn't going to take Panama's word that humans don't have instincts. It was Cyanide who was questioning whether Rush was the #1 talk radio show. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:52:49 PM EDT
[#23]
Since you inevitably make every thread about you, we're obviously talking about you, just the way you want it. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:53:25 PM EDT
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Of course human beings have instincts (all kinds of social behaviors would fall into the category, for example). What would POSSIBLY be the explanation for why humans would not have instincts? |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:54:14 PM EDT
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DOH!  Silly me! I was thinking of the the claim that Rush is #1! (Which we know, of course!  ) |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:55:05 PM EDT
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PR is dead wrong in his opinion - apparantly he's never heard of a human's survival instincts - just for starters.... - georgestrings |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:55:21 PM EDT
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Rush is still a junkie ---------- get over it, make excuses for him whatever. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:55:38 PM EDT
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That's it? This is what gets you upset? 
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:55:50 PM EDT
[#29]
And you're still an attention whore. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:55:52 PM EDT
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I don't care if he was hooked on Asian Herion and shot up with untested transexual prostitutes using dirty needles....
It's that I am always right, "talent on loan from God", I will defend any republican no matter how bad they disgrace the party attitude of his. It just irks me... Kinda the same way James Carville does for democrats... EPOCH |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:56:17 PM EDT
[#31]
And you are wise. Humans have many of the very instincts that animals have. Humans don't need to be told when they are hungry, or to look for food or water. Humans don't need to be told how to get from one place to another. Humans don't need to be taught how to reproduce. Humans don't need to be taught to avoid pain or discomfort. These are just of few. It is impossible to defend the position that humans don't have instincts, any more than you can say that Robins don't have instincts. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:56:40 PM EDT
[#32]
uhh, we agree on this .......... can't be. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:57:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Humor me, I'm just a hillbilly, but regarding reflexes:
What about the gag reflex? or the rubber hammer on the knee reflex? True. Specific response to specific stimuli. I was speaking to born behaviors. wrong! humans have instincts just like any other animal. we know what clean water looks and tastes like. we know what bad food smells like. these arnt things we have to be taught, we just KNOW. thats instinct. noone has to tell us our shit stinks and we shouldnt be around it. WE JUST KNOW. Sorry we DO NOT just know, humans are taught all behaviors, baby's must be taught everything! |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:57:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Rush has a bad case of everything a republican does is always right.
That and the damn "Ditto heads" who just call in are like oh yeah I agree. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:57:48 PM EDT
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I never said I like his show. Frankly, I don't. But Cyanide was foolish enough to call him "yesterday's news." Hard to say that about someone who still brings in the enormous ratings that Rush does. Of course, Cyanide being dead-ass wrong about nearly everything is hardly a news flash. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:57:56 PM EDT
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Bite me --------- you are not going to ------- hijack this post. Nope your not. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:59:00 PM EDT
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Damn --------- people are getting it ......... 
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:59:08 PM EDT
[#38]
no kidding, the stuff he's blabbering about has gone from just being uninformed/ignorant drivel to being just plain nonsensical. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:59:21 PM EDT
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It's called "SCHTICK". Part of the program,
You obviously don't listen much. Rush has beaten the hell out of the President on much of his social agenda, and many a Republican on their non-Conservative tendancies.
The difference is that Rush actually makes sense and is for the most part pretty consistent. Carville is a complete joke. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:59:27 PM EDT
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So does any animal that is dependant on it's mother. A altricial bird can't do jack shit and would die without it's mother. That doesn't mean it doesn't have instincts. Baby raccoons have to be taught how to defacate by their mothers. We don't. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 1:59:50 PM EDT
[#41]
Never. I don't know where you've been. Or maybe I do... |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:00:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Women instinctively want to have children.
Men instinctively want to help them do that. Mothers instinctively want to protect their offspring. Men instinctively want to flee danger. Some people yearn to overcome some of their base (selfish) instincts and be better people. That is how we differ from the animals. Christianity recognizes the baseness of man. Selfishness is the original sin. God knows that we are always tempted by selfishness in whatever form (sin) it presents itself. Jesus taught us that God welcomes us into His arms even though we will always succumb to some temptations. Jesus paid the price for all sin. All He asks is that we sign on to His program. Being human means we don't have to be animals. BTW, I have detected a considerable change in Rush over the past few years. I see a fundamental shift in his attitude toward people and himself. I believe he has become a deeply spiritual person. I hear a great deal of compassion underneath the "tough love" that he has always exposed. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:03:34 PM EDT
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Of course human beings have instincts (all kinds of social behaviors would fall into the category, for example).
What would POSSIBLY be the explanation for why humans would not have instincts? Since I am not the Creator, I am not qualified to answer the question. But, let me try to give you an example: Some would say that survival is a human instinct, this is not correct, if survival were an instinct (remember born with the behavior patterned in your genes) No one would commit suicide. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:06:24 PM EDT
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I would think the will to live is instinctive. Don't remember being taught that or observing dying people's struggle to live. Rush rules. Not always right...but closer than most.
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:07:11 PM EDT
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What BS. There are certain animals who commit suicide that otherwise have a survival instinct. There are animal instincts that man doesn't have, but it is foolish to push your position. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:07:28 PM EDT
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Nonsense. The difference between humans and MOST (not all) animals is NOT that we lack instincts, it's that we can act against them. In fact, most human society is an attempt to get us to act against our instincts. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:13:19 PM EDT
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I guess you have to teach an infant to feed off a breast?
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:13:49 PM EDT
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So does any animal that is dependant on it's mother. A altricial bird can't do jack shit and would die without it's mother. That doesn't mean it doesn't have instincts.
Animals HAVE instincts, the instincts are IMPRINTED on their GENES. If I steal a Robin's egg from the nest and incubate it to birth and I never allow if to see another BIRD, let alone a Robin, and I give said Robin nesting materials. The Robin WILL build a Robin's nest. Not an eagle's nest or a pelican's nest....a robin's nest. The robin's behavior is imprinted. This is instinctive behavior. |
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Posted: 1/12/2005 2:15:15 PM EDT
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Rush Limbaugh is a blowhard and gives a bad name to Rush the band.
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