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That bolt is amazingly dirty.
Good luck finding anything chaper than russian surplus. There's some Yugo around, but to be honest - I've never seen my SAR get *that* dirty after 1000 rounds with no cleaning. That's just weird. When you say FTF do you mean that the chamer still had a round in it? Have you ever cleaned the extractor area thoroughly? Depending on the failure mode, a dirty gun may not be the culprit. |
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well thats the problem, you're using clips instead of magazines. seriously though, is this the new polymer coated ammo?(which does still have primer laquer) have you pulled out your firing pin and cleaned it and its channel? almost all ammo for the 7.62x39 is going to have laquer on it. but thats the ammo that your rifle was designed to fire. did you check your brass for light primer strikes? |
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Yeah but, That doesnt happen anymore... remember? What I dont understand is that people would pay top dollar for their rifles then, feed it this stuff. Yeah you have to clean it more but, to save a few bucks? nah, No thanks. Oh and you DO KNOW that this is gonna turn out to be a Pro-Wolf vs Non-Wolf thread right? |
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I've seen Wolf get raped on this site for a long time, normally in very long threads that I didn't have the time to read through.
Can someone please provide me with a simple list of reasons why Wolf is so reviled? Is it only that it gets extremely dirty, or is there a safety issue, too? Thanks. ETA: I'm surprised to see the firing pin stuck in that position. That's some SERIOUS fouling, boy! |
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I shoot Wolf in my AKs with no problems.
The new stuff is polymer coated instead of the red laquer. |
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Wolf is the only ammo that has been through my SKS. |
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From the look of that bolt it hasn't been cleand in a long time. I haven't cleaned my AK for the past 2500 rounds and my bolt doesn't even look that bad. Clean the FP channel and try it again. I had similar problems and cleaning the FP channel and bolt fixed that right up.
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So much for "Wolf doesn't work in ARs because they are picky, it feeds in AKs ALL DAY LONG!!"
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hmm.. I'll admit, I never actually took the firing pin out before.. I'm going to do that right now and clean it..
oh, and the reason they FTF was because of the firing pin not striking well, very small dent in primers.. |
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The dirt on the bolt is not from lacquer. It's your usual powder/carbon residue and the flaked off red primer sealant. Like I said - I have never seen a bolt that dirty, especially all the carbon buildup under the extractor claw.
And in response to the person who couldn't understand why anyone would shoot this stuff in their rifles: You do realize that that is exactly what the armies using the AK have used for the last what? Almost 60 years? |
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then its not an ammo issue, from the looks of it you've never, ever cleaned that bolt believe it or not, cleaning a firearm requires more effort than just running a brush through the barrel and it may come as a shock, but cleaning your AK every now and then is good for it |
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The .22 Match and Subsonic ammo from Wolf is nice stuff. I wouldn't shoot Wolf ammo thru my AR however.
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Wolf is all I shoot out of my SKS and AK's. I've never had a FTF or any other issue with it.
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so how do I push the firing pin retaining pin out.. this shit isnt working..
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hmm, funny since I've gone through over 3000 rounds of wolf through my AK, and I'm almost done with my first case of wolf .223 in my AR never a problem with either(besides one POS upper that will barely cycle winchester white box) try it, you might be suprised |
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I personally dont like WOLF, Barnaul for me
They should have kept the lacquer on the 7.62 ammo, I kept some of the polymer cased ammo in a ammo box and it rusted up. |
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+1. I shoot Wolf thru my overpriced non-safe queen gutter slut Colt/Bushmaster montrosity all the time. Yeah it's dirty and underpowered, so what? If anything it makes a better shooter becasue of the malfuntion drills it causes! |
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Same here... - georgestrings |
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Bolt disassembly instructions |
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That thing is dirtier than my SAR 1 looked after 3500 rounds of wolf with no cleaning.
My AR has only had wolf through it, nothing else. I'm around 3000 rounds now with no problems. |
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Yeah and I shoot Wolf in my AR with no problem. My comment was just that some people who say it won't work in an AR15 say it works fine in an AK. The fact is it should work in either one, but yes it's messy. It's great plinking ammo either way. |
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push it from the front, or throw some carb cleaner through it, it is probably stuck with all the carbon and laquer buildup you've got going on in there |
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Like buying a Ferrari Testarossa a using 87 octane? Eddie |
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Wolf is the worlds finest plinking ammo. Clean your weapon. Shoot. Quit bitching.
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its a SAR-1, its a commie rifle put together by a peasant in romania. a ferrari it is not |
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If thats what the engine required why not? |
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he was probably talking about a AR |
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There is absolutely NO acceptable reason to let a weapon get that dirty, unless you are purposefully doing a torture test. Instead of blaming the Wolf, you should be blaming yourself. I have put well over 5k rounds of Wolf through my SAR1 with no problems whatsoever. But then again I take care of my equipment. When was the last time you changed the oil in your vehicle?
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I have shot over 6K rounds of wolf through my two bushmasters and my SAR-1 and only had 2 jams in my SAR-1, because it was brand new. I broke in the busys with about 1000 rounds each of winchester and then made the swithch to wolf, and havnt had a problem yet.As far as I am concerned, wolf is the #1 surpluss ammo in my book.
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i have the bolt soaking in some sea foam break free stuff right now..
yes, I abused my poor sar, and didnt clean it like I should have.. I'm new to this whole "gun cleaning" thing.... |
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If you have a weapon that wont shoot wolf its time to modify the weapon until it does.
Wolf IS great ammo to shoot with alot. |
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BINGO! I had this happen once with my Yugo SKS. but it was MY fault because I failed to clean out the firing pin hole in the bolt from a previous Wolf Dump. that red sealant is evil if you don't clean it after a dump. shame on you for keeping a rifle THAT dirty between shoots. |
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I wouldn't blame the ammo, looks like an SFU (shooter fuck up )
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... True, and oh yeah - 10 pages minimum |
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Not a car guy, eh? Eddie |
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ruger270man: I would take the bolt apart and clean, and that should solve most of your problems. |
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Well, I can agree that Wolf is only a "certain degree" cheaper than commercial or milsurp ammo, BUT! multiply that by say, 10k rounds on a full-auto weekend and you're talking some real $$$....
To each his own. |
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Yea thats all my old POS Wasr ever gets and she goes bang everytime( 1000+rds so far).
That is weird as most of the rds I fired was the old laquer coated rds. Like everyone said clean the bolt and you should be fine. FREE |
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I do it because I can get in about 33% more practice with the cheaper ammo. I can live with 3 or 4 malfunctions per thousand rounds or 5 minutes extra cleaning to get more trigger time. |
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I use to run Wolf in my M16 all the time... Never a problem.
It's the ONLY ammo I've ever put in the AK's... AK's have that neat little thingy sticking out of the side of the receiver... Just give it a yank, and move on to the next round if you have a FTF... Not a big deal in my opinion... Whadda ya expect for $85 a case ? |
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