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Posted: 1/7/2005 4:33:35 PM EDT

... it kicked ass!
Go buy it and read it.
Nearly 900 pages long and you can count the boring parts on one hand.

Unintended Consequences, by John Ross
Don't go to Barns & Noble or Borders, they donate all sorts of money to the left. You'll have to find some random book store that can order it, I got my copy in less than a week from a local place.

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:38:24 PM EDT

[#1]

I bought it for like $7.00 from a used book store. People should try there first.

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:38:37 PM EDT

[#2]

www.accuratepress.net/uc.html
john-ross.net

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:43:38 PM EDT

[#3]

shameless plug for him:

www.john-ross.net

Having met him once a couple years ago, he's a cool guy.

doh. if I hadn't taken time to read some more stuff on his page.....

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:45:28 PM EDT

[#4]

Yes I read it. It took me about three times before I realized that Janet Reno was the ugly hag in the doublewide.

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:47:53 PM EDT

[#5]

John Ross has posted on this Board before!

I still think he's a member, but doesn't come around much....well, to my knowledge!

The book was great!

The history of America's Gun Culture was the very best part, IMHO!

Eric The(VeryImpressed)Hun

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:49:13 PM EDT

[#6]

The historical parts were great. The first half of the new stuff was good. The idiotic wish-fulfillment at the end was totally silly.

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:53:09 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
The historical parts were great. The first half of the new stuff was good. The idiotic wish-fulfillment at the end was totally silly.

C'mon now, son, wouldn't you just love to grab Senator Metzenbaum's arm while he was jogging and floor it?

A 'mythical' Senator Metzenbaum, of course!

Eric The(TotallySatisfying)Hun

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:53:34 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
The historical parts were great. The first half of the new stuff was good. The idiotic wish-fulfillment at the end was totally silly.

Well, you know, there has to be something to make a movie from!

Posted: 1/7/2005 4:54:17 PM EDT

[#9]

Let's just say... I'd get caught.

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:01:33 PM EDT

[#10]

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:05:05 PM EDT

[#11]

I enjoyed it.

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:05:47 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
www.farmertan.com/daily/062302/posing_pig.jpg

Alright, I give up already....

Is that Imbroglio OR A-Rock?

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:06:27 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
John Ross has posted on this Board before!

I still think he's a member, but doesn't come around much....well, to my knowledge!

The book was great!

The history of America's Gun Culture was the very best part, IMHO!

Eric The(VeryImpressed)Hun

Yep, I invited him and he posted, I think his username is Jross but I'm not positive. Captainpooby and I bought AR's off of him too, unfired Sendra's with a letter from him and an autographed book. Mine is still unfired.

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:06:33 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

It's amazing how much that looks like Ted Kennedy.

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:12:11 PM EDT

[#15]

TTRauma,

Where'd ya get the "Molon Labe" shirt?

GR

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:19:14 PM EDT

[#16]

ETH! Glad to see ya on the board again!

Hope you're feeling better, and any recovery left goes well and quickly for you.

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:21:13 PM EDT

[#17]

Oh I can't read that my mother-in-law in D. Fine-Swine

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:24:23 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
The historical parts were great. The first half of the new stuff was good. The idiotic wish-fulfillment at the end was totally silly.

Work for the government, do ya?

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:33:24 PM EDT

[#19]

C'mon now, son, wouldn't you just love to grab Senator Metzenbaum's arm while he was jogging and floor it?

no.

as much as i didn't care for howard metzenbaum, i wouldn't want to see his dumb commie ass dead on my account.

i agree with rik and his assessment.

Posted: 1/7/2005 5:53:24 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
TTRauma,

Where'd ya get the "Molon Labe" shirt?

GR

A Gent named Correia takes orders periodically on thehighroad.org. He has a hat order going right now. Probably another month or so before he does another shirt order. Good stuff, good prices.
thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=70094&highlight=correia

Posted: 1/7/2005 6:03:16 PM EDT

[#21]

Post from CAMPYBOB -

much as i didn't care for howard metzenbaum, i wouldn't want to see his dumb commie ass dead on my account.

Where does simple liberal idiocy end and manifest treason to this country begin?

This man was a traitor to the Constitution while in office, as are all politicians who willfully vote to dimish the rights that millions of Americans have fought and died to preserve for our benefit!

What an inheritance they have squandered, and for what?

People control! To keep us all poor unarmed peasants!

The gun-grabbers deserve everything they would likely receive in any 'Revolution', for they have singlehandedly made such dire action necessary.

And when that end comes, IF ever it does, I would be more than willing to serve as the Chief Arm-grabber for tired old liberal azzed fucks who were just as traitorous to our Republic as any Benedict Arnold or Julius Rosenberg ever wished to be.

And the penalty for treason is death.

i agree with rik and his assessment.

Cool.

Sit back and enjoy the view.

IF it ever comes.

Eric The(RightThinking)Hun

Posted: 1/7/2005 6:06:56 PM EDT

[#22]

Great read, couldn't put it down.

Posted: 1/7/2005 6:18:02 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Quoted:
The historical parts were great. The first half of the new stuff was good. The idiotic wish-fulfillment at the end was totally silly.

Work for the government, do ya?

No, but my brain still works. And I KNOW that no government in the history of the world heretofore or that is likely to exist in the future would have made the "deal" the president made at the end of the book.

Posted: 1/7/2005 6:27:39 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

No, but my brain still works. And I KNOW that no government in the history of the world heretofore or that is likely to exist in the future would have ~~made~~ kept the "deal" the president made at the end of the book.

Fixed it for ya - Governments promise much - Deliver little.

Posted: 1/7/2005 6:47:37 PM EDT

[#25]

Grabbed UC and Bostons Gun Bible updated book some time ago.

Almost finished Bible.

UC still in a plastic wrapper sitting in my truck. One of these days...............

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:02:56 PM EDT

[#26]

I rec'd a Brand Spanking New Copy from the ARF.com Christmas Gift Exchange thanks to HIPPO.

Anticipate on starting it soon

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:07:24 PM EDT

[#27]

chick on cover of book has a great set of cans-

i loved the part where the kid is shooting skeet with the BAR

also the 20mm anti tank gun thing was cool as shit

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:14:47 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
chick on cover of book has a great set of cans-

LOL that made me go back and look at the previous page.. My copy didn't have a cover....

Anyway,

I did like the book, but I thought one thing didn't flow right.... This Bowman gent was really smart... I had a hard time believing he wouldn't catch on that it might just be the cops doing a raid on his place. The way the scene went it never even crossed his mind until it was all over. I would think that he would catch on much quicker. I'm not saying he wouldn't have continued, but I didn't like the way the transition of the plot occured.

I'd recommend it.

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:15:16 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
TTRauma,

Where'd ya get the "Molon Labe" shirt?

GR

look in our industry forum.

dvdtracker, a member, and dealer here, has plenty of stuff right here.

support the locals.

txl

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:20:09 PM EDT

[#30]

Love the gun history part. REALLY loved knockin' the stormtroopers from the sky with WWII technology in the Lahti 20mm. The whole homo rape thing was weird. Why do authors do that?

We all need a 20, 25 and even 30mm gun. Mount one on your deuce and a half.

ENEMIES Foreign and Domestic was OK. Scary part is, I have met federals with the midset of the badguys in that book. Scary shit.

hock.gif

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:26:51 PM EDT

[#31]

I read it a few years ago and it is a really good book. So good that I wanted to start writing a movie script using the book as a screen play.
I think once my movie script is done, I will be sending it along to this guy I know in Hollywood and hopefully I will get a movie deal out of it

The movie script will probably never make it off the guys desk but I figure it is worth a shot.
Can't imagine what all it will spark up but I'll have fun watching it all come down...

b'cuz it is one hell of a story and most of it well . . . could be true, could happen, you'll see!

M4-CQBR

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:28:12 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
The historical parts were great. The first half of the new stuff was good. The idiotic wish-fulfillment at the end was totally silly.

Good overview. Still a must read.

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:48:29 PM EDT

[#33]

It was a good book. I got it at the same newsstand in California that I bought my porn from. Certain parts don't add up, like the failure to pick up on he raid being conducted by the ATF, rather than criminals. I also thought the gay rape was a bit much, but it could have been based on an event in someone's real life.

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:52:30 PM EDT

[#34]

I read it, but it bored me at times with too many details.

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:54:14 PM EDT

[#35]

The next book you should read is The Real Lincoln. I have it, if you want to swap. I have not read U.C. yet but have heard a lot about it.

Posted: 1/7/2005 7:56:58 PM EDT

[#36]

great book

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:04:48 PM EDT

[#37]

I bought his book when he had a table full of them from the first printing at Knob Creek. He was signing them. He was at a table next to Kent Lamont. Both are great guys.

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:27:31 PM EDT

[#38]

Revolting and barbaric.

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:33:04 PM EDT

[#39]

The whole homo rape thing was weird. Why do authors do that?

H.B. seemed larger than life in so many ways then the rape part knocked him down a bit and the drinking started. It made him human.

I also suspect that it helped him empathize with the other sex abuse victims in the book.

YMMV

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:41:06 PM EDT

[#40]

I liked it but could not get passed the aviation information screw-ups. Seemed like the author was just stuffing the chapters with needless information that was not factual. Good plot though. Planerench out.

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:44:48 PM EDT

[#41]

I've read it twice now.

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:49:52 PM EDT

[#42]

Yah, too much detail at times. The history was great. I never heard about the bonus soldiers before.

Another good read is Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com

Posted: 1/7/2005 8:51:31 PM EDT

[#43]

John Ross's office is only a couple miles from where I grew up - the restaurants, area, etc in the book are real. When I was a kid, my Dad & I went to the Steak & Shake he mentions in his book quite a bit. John Ross now also teaches CCW classes in St. Louis County.....a friend of mine just went through his course last weekend, and emailed me this:

Had my CCW classroom part last night. I have a certificate and I can apply for states that don't require the practical part... like Florida. That John Ross was pretty good. He's quite a character. The class was entertaining and he gave a lot of advice for staying out of trouble, both from criminals and police. Since he was closely involved in the passage of Missouri's CCW law, he knows a lot of lawyers and politicians. Lot of relevant info. Only nine in the class.

I guess you probably know or heard that he's a big revolver enthusiast. A big enthusiast of big revolvers. He says he counted his .44 magnum collection and he has 33 of them. So anyway during a break, I get a conversation going on what do you carry. I'd like to carry my Glock 21, but think if may be too thick and I might not carry it everyday. He stands up, raises his arms and asks, "can anyone tell what I'm packing." I didn't even see that he was packing, but only assumed so because of his reputation. People call out all sort of guns and he says, "bigger." I never would have guessed this but he reaches into his pants and pulls out a S&W 500. Now, that's not his normal carry gun, he is just been carrying it on a trial basis to see what it's like. He's a fan of the "smartcarry" abdominal belt. Also carries an an airweight dao .357 in a pocket holster. Still, he's says he's been carrying the big .50 16 hours a day lately and he's fine with it. He believes large-cap autos were designed for police that can't get the job done in six shots. He also believes in looking like you mean business when you draw.

Damn....carrying a S&W 500....OK, I'm impressed. And it's a helluva book to boot - I've bought at least a dozen over the last few years to send to friends.

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