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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:53:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Keep your USP or if you're not comfortable with it, get a 1911. Save your money and purchase a 92FS. They are fine weapons.
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:54:01 PM EDT
[#2]
keep the HK.
and get the beretta. i remember my first trip to a public range. rented a 92fs and loved it. been wanting to buy one since but always get sidetracked by ammo, mags, and new AR projects. in other words. never sell. just aquire more. you wont regret it. |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:55:16 PM EDT
[#3]
I'll buy your USP for $100 and you'll be on your way to that new Beretta!
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:56:20 PM EDT
[#4]
what did you do in New Orleans?
must not be bad since you can still own a gun......or are you buying the beretta out of some guys trunk? |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:56:46 PM EDT
[#5]
I think you should quit fooling yourself and get a 1911
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:58:25 PM EDT
[#6]
If your happier with it get it. Keep or sell the USP, if you like it still keep it, if not sell it.
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:59:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2005 10:59:12 PM EDT
[#8]
a HUGE +1 on that statement. |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:02:47 PM EDT
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If I, and some other folks, were better people and a better friend to somebody, one of us, including myself, would've said to her in that bar "No! Don't take your top off and get up by that poll! Your boyfriend will be mad!" But we didn't. So we're bad people. Sorta. |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:26:35 PM EDT
[#10]
I like 9mm but still don't like the trade. I would shoot all the major 9mm builders before jumping over. It may be the cartridge that you like and not the gun. IMHO the only thing going for the Beretta is the sharp looking open top slide and thats a pitiful reason to choose a weapon.
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:28:08 PM EDT
[#11]
No, you idiot.
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:31:07 PM EDT
[#12]
If thats the case save the $$$ and get the Taurus. Plus I like the placement of the safety lever on the Taurus better than the Beretta. BERETTA:  TAURUS:  |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:33:37 PM EDT
[#13]
You will go to sleep crying every night if you trade that HK for a Beretta.
You may even end up shooting yourself with the Beretta if you make that trade, you'll be so depressed. HK is on a whole nuther level than Beretta. |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:34:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Berettas are why we're going to have to pull out of Iraq....
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:36:06 PM EDT
[#15]
If you love the 92. Go for it! I did.
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:36:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Which 92, I know where there is a LNIB 92G
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:45:54 PM EDT
[#17]
dont do it...
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:47:59 PM EDT
[#18]
They also cause AIDS! |
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Posted: 1/6/2005 11:57:32 PM EDT
[#19]
sold my beretta and bought a glock. I've been regretting it ever since. Beretta is still number 1 on my list even with my glock. Saving up some money to buy a USP next then i'm going to buy another beretta. Stainless this time.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 12:15:24 AM EDT
[#20]
Not to rub it in, but I'm glad you did sell it! I am thoroughly enjoying your 92, and I thank you for keeping it in such great shape! |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 12:17:02 AM EDT
[#21]
Don't do it. I sold my USP .45 a while back for a Walther P99, and wound up going back to the USP (not that the Walther was bad), only this time I went with the Tactical model.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 12:24:41 AM EDT
[#22]
I would. You wouldn't have asked the question if you didn't already know deep inside that you WANT the Beretta. Its a great pistol. Yeah, its a little big and heavy for a 9mm, but the USP is kinda blocky too. The Beretta is accurate and reliable if maintained. Just always use factory mags.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 12:56:58 AM EDT
[#23]
my pleasure. I hope it has a good home. I plan on buying another though. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:18:33 AM EDT
[#24]
I just got a 92FS for christmas and love it. But I agree, save and buy, dont sell.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:20:34 AM EDT
[#25]
My border marshal is one fine weapon.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:23:50 AM EDT
[#26]
Actually shooting a Beretta usually has that effect.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:24:45 AM EDT
[#27]
If both fit your hand great keep the HK and buy a Beretta. Use whatever fits your hand. Both are great guns. If you want a trigger job on the Beretta send it to Ernest Langdon www.langdontactical.com He's a Master Class IDPA shooter and former Marine and has forgotten more about Berettas than most of us will ever know. Ernest used a SIG 220ST to beat Rob Leatham in IDPA (shooting a 1911) in 2003.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:29:04 AM EDT
[#28]
. Shoot a baby eagle before you make up your mind on the beretta, I like the baby eagle better. Now if you still want a Beretta i got one I'd trade ya for that USP. I don't really shoot it at all anyway since the baby eagle is so much sweeter.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:31:07 AM EDT
[#29]
That's not a joke, Berettas suck that bad. They are the choice firearm of all killer clowns. Seriously, I hate Beretta, but I hate HK too. Buy a Sig. Or Springfield. Or Glock. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:33:34 AM EDT
[#30]
I have a 92 and love it for a knock around pistol. Accurate as hell. But I carry a SA 1911.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:35:40 AM EDT
[#31]
Beretta is a good gun.....But do not sell your HK USP.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:39:53 AM EDT
[#32]
If you must have a Beretta then save and buy, don't sell and buy. A buddy of mine once said to me, "You'll never have a collection if you trade or sell your guns". That was just after he said " Are still gonna sell me that Mossberg Mariner?". I ended up selling it to him
 . Buy 1911, Mags are cheaper and you can never have too many .45's
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:46:44 AM EDT
[#33]
While the Beretta is nice (I have a 92FS), it is no USP (I have them in .45 and a 9mm). I bought the Beretta first because I didn't know any better. Yes it's a well made pistol but I would not want it to be my only 9mm just for the simple fact that I can't (at least not easily) put night sights on it. I also don't like being stuck with just a decocker. At this point, my 92FS is used exclusively for shooting .22LR (w/a Ceiner conversion kit). Now if I could just get a .22LR kit for my USPs.
I bought the USP .45 because everyone should have a .45 pistol, right? I bought the USP 9mm so I could save some money on ammo and still get used to the USP's trigger, controls and general feel.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:53:46 AM EDT
[#34]
The 92 is too big for my hands, but I own one anyway because it is what I carried for a year as a MP on LE duty. I dont like shooting it as much as my ruger P89 with rubber replacement grips.
My friend, with the same size hands, loves the 92 and shoots it really well. If it feels good do it. Just stay away from checkmate mags and check the locking block every 500 rounds or so. Look into wolf 9mm (poly) and see if the gun likes it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 6:58:55 AM EDT
[#35]
The Brigadier and Vertec models have front and rear dovetailed sights (this includes the Border Marshal, Elite, EliteII, & SD). The decocker only modesl are the Gs, this includes the Elite and Elite II. An FS model the safety is a dockcer also. On a G model the deocker after decocking springs back up just like on a SIG. I prefer a G because I don't like that if you sling shot the slide on an FS the safety could drop decocking and making the gun not fire. I prefer the SIG type manual of arms. SIGs and Berettas are my favorite to types of pistols. My EL 220ST is more accurate than any USP or MK23 I've ever fired. It's more accurate than my old Quantico/RTE shop built 1911 that had a Bar-Sto barrel. There's a reason why Ernest Langdon didn't bother changing his barrel on his competition 220ST to a Bar-Sto for IDPA. It's the top one in this pic.  Here's Ernest Langdon at the Shot Show holding his creation.   You can see the front dovetailed sight in this pic of my hardchromed Beretta 92G Elite.  |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:02:56 AM EDT
[#36]
Get the Beretta, the 92FS is a great pistol. You may as well hang on to the USP. You are likely to lose a lot of money getting rid of it, used USPs go for about $450. Your best bet is to find someone with the HK fever and fleece the hell out of him.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:09:10 AM EDT
[#37]
One day a bunch of guys at Beretta were standing around comparing their 9x series to SIGs and they said "hey, our design sucks" and went on to invent the 8000 series. Get an 8000 series gun.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:14:14 AM EDT
[#38]
Correct but that doesn't do squat for me since I have the 92FS and I don't see the point on the swapping out the slide. I almost traded in my 92FS for a Vertec but didn't see the point. The decocker only modesl are the Gs, this includes the Elite and EliteII. An FS model the safety is a dockcer also. On a G model the deocker after decocking springs back up just like on a SIG. I prefer a G because I don't like that if you sling shot the slide on an FS the safety could drop decocking and making the gun not fire. I prefer the SIG type manual of arms. SIGs and Berettas are my favorite to types of pistols. Both my USPs are set up with Variant 9 - Safety only, No decocker. I have no need for a decocker myself so being able to set up my USPs like this is great. It was cheap to do and I was able to do it myself in about 5 minutes. I also like having the built in rail for mount a light or laser as well. Beretta makes a nice gun but the 92FS seems a bit dated compared to some of the new stuff they're offering. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:15:05 AM EDT
[#39]
I like the Berettas alot too. I don't much approve of selling or trading guns, but the Mini-14 and a USP Compact are the only 2 that I never missed. The major issues in Iraq with the M-9s seem to be bad aftermarket magazines, coupled with guns that have been beat to shit for decades.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:17:07 AM EDT
[#40]
Surely you jest!
 I'm thinking of trading my Land Cruiser in for a Yugo. 
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:17:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Your FS has a decocker and a safety. From your quote it seemed like you assumed all Berettas had only decockers (G models), from what you said you should be happy with an FS.
Vertec Berettas have rails too.  
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Posted: 1/7/2005 7:18:22 AM EDT
[#42]
Get what ya like . HK USP is my choice.
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Posted: 1/7/2005 9:00:36 AM EDT
[#43]
Roger that on the rails but again, just speaking for myself, I'm not in a hurry to trade my 92FS for a Vertec. Again, I think Beretta make a nice gun. I was trying to relate my experience with the 92FS and the USPs. Buy what feels comfortable and works for you. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 9:06:53 AM EDT
[#44]
I don't care what they say. I have a 92 and a 96. If you like that 92, you'll love the 96. They fit very well in your hand, are accurate and I haven't had a lick of problem either of them. I take care of my guns though. You can keep the HK, I'll stick with Berretta. MADE IN AMERICA! |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 9:08:55 AM EDT
[#45]
  So the Beretta M9 is the M16 of Vietnam huh? Pull out because of a pistol. Lumpy, you crack me up!  |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 9:54:43 AM EDT
[#46]
Doooooo Iiiiiiiiiiit
You won't be sorry. Beretta is a fine piece. All the bad press you hear about them is bunk; albeit based on problems resulting from poor quality mags the military bought. I never had a problem as long as I had Beretta factory mags. If money is a factor, and you decide your really want the Beretta, trade. You can always get another USP later on down the road when you've got more cash to blow. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 10:34:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Another +1 for Beretta.
Don't believe the BS about slide mounted controls, trigger bars moving, etc. If my 92FS were a little lighter it would still be my carry gun and I wouldn't have bought a Sig. Great feeling, handling, accurate and reliable weapon. This time of the year I DO still carry it on occasion. (15+1 vs 7+1 for the Sig) One of my shooting buddies has a Taurus and though it shoots decently, even HE admits that "It just doesn't feel as smooth and solid as the Beretta". As to whether or not you get rid of the USP, well, I fall into the "never sell or trade a gun" category, even though I've never shot an HK. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 10:37:53 AM EDT
[#48]
 No. Keep the USP and save up for a new/used Beretta. There are always folks who buy them and hate them, but barely shot it. FWIW..... After getting rid of my "cajun" 92FS awhile ago, I just scored a Langdon prepped 92 Elite II. Whoa sweet trigger....
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Posted: 1/7/2005 10:40:49 AM EDT
[#49]
I am learning that handguns are VERY much a matter of individual preference.
Some handguns I simply cannot shoot very well. Others feel natural. Buy and carry whatever is high quality and you shoot well. |
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Posted: 1/7/2005 10:43:31 AM EDT
[#50]
+1 - most of the negative comments about 92's come from guys who either have never even shot one (or assholes as they are more commonly known) or have only shot a seriously abused (ie G.I. M9 that has had about 20 owners and has been used as a e-tool). As for the trade, the best gun is the one that you like best. If you can afford to have both, keep the H&K and buy the Beretta. If not, trade for the Beretta since you like it better. |
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