AK-47 or M-16 most numerous rifle??

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - AK-47 or M-16 most numerous rifle??

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:54:42 PM EDT

I was under the impression that the M-16 family was the most widely produced and had numerical superiority over the AK-47 family.

I don't recall just where I got this info from, probably here. Can someone set me straight?

Here's why I ask-

forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=83797&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:55:38 PM EDT

[#1]

AK, I think AR is #2

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:56:23 PM EDT

[#2]

I've gotta say the AK.

*We need a poll*

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:56:29 PM EDT

[#3]

I don't actually know, but I would guess that there are more AKs.

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:56:55 PM EDT

[#4]

i would guess the AK47 is in use far more than the M16.
not even counting all the third world countries, you had the Chinese and Russians using it.

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:57:14 PM EDT

[#5]

Something like 50 million AKs out there. Not sure on M16 numbers.

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:58:04 PM EDT

[#6]

+1 for AKs

Posted: 10/31/2004 7:58:30 PM EDT

[#7]

I wonder what number three is actually?
Mauser 98 or Nagant?

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:00:57 PM EDT

[#8]

I think it goes....

AK Clones
AR-15 Clones
FAL Clones

If you include LEO, I'm sure the AR numbers are a lot higher.

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:01:48 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I think it goes....

AK Clones
AR-15 Clones
FAL Clones

If you include LEO, I'm sure the AR numbers are a lot higher.

higher than AK? no way.

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:02:20 PM EDT

[#10]

AK...

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:06:35 PM EDT

[#11]

Think about this, how many countries produced large amounts of guns and what guns did they make? then which countries suffered horrible economical problems, creating a black market full of guns? The collapse of the USSR flooded the world with AK-47s.

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:08:44 PM EDT

[#12]

AK - 50 million

M16/AR15 - 30 million

As I recall. Definite edge for the AK & variants

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:09:30 PM EDT

[#13]

AK by a landslide not even close, after that it probably a Fal or HK91/cetme variant

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:11:14 PM EDT

[#14]

AK's 50,000,000++++ not even counting 74 variants

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:14:24 PM EDT

[#15]

AK's all the way.

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:17:16 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I think it goes....

AK Clones
AR-15 Clones
FAL Clones

If you include LEO, I'm sure the AR numbers are a lot higher.
higher than AK? no way.

I kinda meant to say that the FAL and the AR might be close ( there's a reason its the right arm of the free world) and that the FAL's might be close to the AR, but not if you include LEO's.

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:20:19 PM EDT

[#17]

The FAL is a battle rifle...are we including all rifles or just assault rifles?

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:20:58 PM EDT

[#18]

AK followed my M98, after that I'm not sure

Posted: 10/31/2004 8:23:27 PM EDT

[#19]

AK platform without a doubt. The SECOND most common, is where the real contest lies.

Edit: there is NO WAY that the AR platform is anywhere near #2. ONLY the USA and a couple of other western nations use them. Sure, there are the similar weapons that asians use, but they're still entirely different platforms (ie: Daewoo's). AR's just aren't the $50 AK's you can find all over any third world shithole (same goes for WW2 leftover handouts like the massively stockpiled weapons like the Mauser types would probably be #2.).

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:06:38 PM EDT

[#20]

Less than 6 million AR-based rifles have been made. There are probably more SKSs than that, and nothing can touch the AK. Also very high volume: WWII bolt actions, such as the Enfield, Mauser, and Mosin-Nagant. All were produced by several countries and adopted by several militaries.

-Troy

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:08:45 PM EDT

[#21]

If you are talking about in the world, AK.

If you are talking about in the US, AR.

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:14:54 PM EDT

[#22]

Well, the AK is a much better gun...

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:24:15 PM EDT

[#23]

A guy I know in Egypt had a relative in the Maadi factory. He told me that his uncle told him that for about 6 years, they produced some thing like 1,000 AK variants a day. That's 2 million or so right there. Even if you reduce that by the Egyptian exaggeration factor by 50%, you're still at a million, and Egypt wasn't even a big consumer/trans-shipper of the damn things. They can be had for $30-$50 in certain parts of various suqs, but ammunition is pretty scarce. If I have to do any considerable time over there again in the future, I'm going to try to arrange a shipment of Wolf to myself.

Also, in 10 years of travel to the Middel East, I've never seen an AK74 variant in Egypt. Hmm.

ETA: Damn PHAROAH smilie still busted!

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:29:53 PM EDT

[#24]

I would have to go with the Red Ryder being number one.

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:31:38 PM EDT

[#25]

AK hands down. Millions upon Millions

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:33:59 PM EDT

[#26]

AK has to be first!
2nd I would venture to say Mosin Nagant (remember they were made from the late 1800's up to the 40's I think) and used in many conflict all over the over the word.

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:44:14 PM EDT

[#27]

AKs hands down. No way in hell does the AR family even come close. My best guess for the #2 spot would be between the Mauser 98's and the Mosin-Nagant's.

Posted: 10/31/2004 10:51:13 PM EDT

[#28]

I has to be the AK

Posted: 10/31/2004 11:21:32 PM EDT

[#29]

AK out #s Ars by ahuge #

there are between 80 and 100 MILLION AKs (and varients) made worldwide
probably less than 20 million Ars (and varients)

h/w the AR smokes the AK as far as overall 'best'

Posted: 11/1/2004 5:38:37 AM EDT

[#30]

Discovery (UK) had a program about guns the other night, they said 250 million AKs so far. I dont know about this specific fact but the rest of the stuff they said was true.

Posted: 11/1/2004 5:48:09 AM EDT

[#31]

conservative estimates place total ak47, akm and ak74 production at over 90 million units. some estimates run to 110 million units.

no other rifle comes close to those production figures.

with india recently adopting the insas clone, that figure will continue to climb.

Posted: 11/1/2004 5:59:01 AM EDT

[#32]

No one knows how many AKs were(are)produced!All I know is,turn on the news at 6,and within 5 min., there will be an AK making an apprearance.Last nite,saw a bunch of African troops getting off an A/C in the Sudan,what were they carrying,AKs of course.

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