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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:16:40 AM EDT
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No way, MTV's "Rock the Vote" is firmly in bed with Russell Simmons and other leftie vermin. Bush would be walking into a bullfight and he'd be the bull. He's not so great with hostile audiences and handling random questions off the cuff. He'd just open himself up to making a dumb soundbite.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:17:23 AM EDT
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This is from the same group that thought "boxers or briefs?" was a campaign question?
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:18:38 AM EDT
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Actually that was from an audience member NOT an MTV staff person. It looks really bad for him to not go on. He's a tough guy, he can jab back at them. JMHO |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:21:43 AM EDT
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Bush would look like a boob if he did that...
He'd be getting all sorts of 'youth oriented' questions framed in such a way as to make him look like a old fuddy-duddy. -Gay marriage -drug legalization -1st ammendment stuff including funding for music education -Free College -Free health care -draft fears It would end up being a hit piece. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:23:34 AM EDT
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Pft. There's not such thing as the youth vote. Bush is better off spending his time talking to people who DO vote in close races. BTW, this is coming from a 25 y/o who's been voting in all but one election (unimportant local special election I didn't pay attention to) since I was 18. The nice old ladies at the polling place are always suprised and glad to see me. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:23:50 AM EDT
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That's the truth!! MTV is nothing but liberal Asshats pushing their agenda on the youth of today. I'm 16 and all I ever see on that GD tv show is "Gay Dating blah blah blah", "Vote or Die" bullshit from a rich motherfucker that doesn't even understand that slaves were initially brought to America via black Muslim slave traders, et cetera. I hate the channel just like I hate VH1... and now even CMT is catching the wave of bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:25:30 AM EDT
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So what if he got asked that? Sounds like to me many of you guys don't have any trust in your Prez. and you rather have a gag order than let him be asked some questions. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:25:59 AM EDT
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I tend to agree with those saying it would be suicide.
People said the same thing about Bush not attending the NAACP confrences (or whatever the hell they were called). It would have been incredibly stupid for him to go to those, and the same goes for this case. There is NO WAY in hell MTV would structure the thing in such a way as to make it neutral to Bush or the commie. It would be set up specifically to nail Bush. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:26:58 AM EDT
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Even so, it looks WORSE for him not going on. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:33:13 AM EDT
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To those that think so, it doesn't matter what he does...he still looks bad. The shekina glory of God could manifest around Bush and they'd still think we was evil. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:33:22 AM EDT
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With a verified media for Kerry, you bet'cha... If it were simply a group of young voters, I'd have a problem with him not speaking, but it's MTV and thus is a partisan venue disguised as an open forum. I can see a question now: "Mr. President, how can you throw the book at drug offenders, when you yourself were a cokehead." |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:34:13 AM EDT
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I agree it does look bad, almost as bad as SKerry dodging O'rielly
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:35:14 AM EDT
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No advantage to Bush courting the "brain dead / I want my MTV" non-voters.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:36:24 AM EDT
[#14]
MTV is a waste of time.
But what he SHOULD do is hold a real "Fireside Chat"- spend a hour or so in a CHAT ROOM on AOL or MSN or both. Then he could reach the only young people who will actually be voting. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:36:36 AM EDT
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It's the same reasoning as to why there are no MAJOR active campaign offices in LIBERAL states. Why not direct the resources you have to the places where it will do the most good? |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:38:02 AM EDT
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I wish I had my camera for this picture.
I'm standing in front of Republican HQ waiting for some Bush signs to come in by truck. The Democratic HQ is right next door to us. We've had this store front for six years. The D's three months. I see this POS car coming down the steet with a few 4x8 Kerry/Edwards sign strapped to the roof. The signs were trying to go airborne from the air when this knothead discovers he has no place to park and will have to go around the block. So he turns down a one way street the wrong way with a ton of traffic coming at his 12. All he does is force eveyone to the curb, beeps his horn and shakes his fist at everyone shouting "get the **** out of my way" when he rolls buy. It was the one of the most idiotic things I've seen this election. But, in retrospect, I think we made a few new Republicans that day. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:38:23 AM EDT
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Except that O'Reilly is a legitimate powerhouse in political discussions. MTV is a non-entity inside a black hole. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:38:42 AM EDT
[#18]
I managed to raise 4 children that did not buy into the "MTV Mindset"
and so did many other parents. They only represent a % of the youth. Why bother with the ones that are inclined to vote their music preferences rather than knowing the issues. I have faith in the many other parents who raised their kids to pay attention  GM eta (sp) |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:55:48 AM EDT
[#19]
Sorry M4... I'm with the "IT'S A TRAP!" folks on this one.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:04:28 PM EDT
[#20]
LoL. Oh man, you had me up until "O'Reilly is a legitimate powerhouse of political discussions." O'Reilly is a jackass, though I will say that I'd rather watch him than MTV. He reminds me of a republican version of Larry King...but a more of a dick. "Welcome to the O'Reilly Factor. Have you heard? I wrote a book!" |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:07:21 PM EDT
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You are one person. His ratings, book sales, guest list and CURRENT standing in the journalistic community are not measured by one person of even a group of 100 of we "one persons". Whether you, or I, like him or not he is a powerhouse in that circle. Period. End of factual statement. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:09:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Fine, since you didn't include the word "legitimate" that time I'll agree with you.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:17:18 PM EDT
[#23]
MTV = the Britney Spears demographic
They are NOT gonna vote. They have a 3:47 attention span. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:36:13 PM EDT
[#24]
It seems many of you have NO IDEA as to the level that MTV *routinely* goes to in order to manipulate things to how the producers want to see them. We're talking people that study Joseph Goebbels for fun and enjoy taking his ideas to new levels via scripting, prompting from producers, and of course, creative editing of the footage.
Sure, they'd be more limited in what they could do with a GWB interview, but believe me, they could do a lot of damage. -Troy |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:44:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Gee, MTV... ya THINK the PRESIDENT might be a little busy... well... BEING THE PRESIDENT??
That's a little of a disadvantage for Bush. Not only is he campaigning, he has to carry his Presidential duties, too. All the while, Kerry has been ducking out of his duties.... |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:49:14 PM EDT
[#26]
+1 He's wise to avoid it. MTV's "Choose or Lose" commercials are as subtly anti-Bush as they can make them. Just check one out sometime...you'll see what I'm talking about. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 12:52:31 PM EDT
[#27]
I agree. Next up would be Al-Jazeera, then a Q&A with Hollywood liberals. Let's see a little good will first. You're enemies want you dead first, if that's not possible they'd like to light you on fire on natinal TV or maybe a pie in the face. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 1:10:10 PM EDT
[#28]
+1, it is a Trap! |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 1:12:51 PM EDT
[#29]
MTV is owned by Viacom, the same parent company who owns-
CBS and all their "60 Minutes"/Dan Rather bullshit. Howard Stern and his daily 'Hate Bush' diatribes Showtime and their Striesand produced character-assasination of Ronald Reagan. Why would GWB want to give them the opportunity to put the knife to him? Fuck Viacom. Even the GE-owned NBC properties are better. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 1:23:37 PM EDT
[#30]
M4 I know you are not but according to a bunch of assholes on this site you having douted Bush makes you a  
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Posted: 10/28/2004 1:27:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Love how you < 100 post people THINK you know a long timer like M4, and are incapable of communicating a cogent thought without an expletive. Do you think we don't know who you are, where you come from, smell your stench, see thru your BS??? Go away troll turd. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 1:44:35 PM EDT
[#32]
GWB should not bother with MTV, just as he shouldn't bother being interviewed by The Nation.
It is tactically foolish to legitimize any hard-left media organization by having the President submitting to their stupidity. MTV must be deemphasized, not elevated. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 1:47:12 PM EDT
[#33]
+1 well said |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 2:04:24 PM EDT
[#34]
Whatever. Fu*k MTV.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 2:06:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Bush is doing the smart thing by staying away.
MTV has no legitimacy as a credible media organization. Bush & Rove know this and are not lending credibility to their agenda. The more you pander to MTV and the like, the more mindshare they assume. Their socialist secular agenda lacks the thinnest of veneer to give it even the appearance of legitimacy. I take every chance I get to fuck with MTV and I am glad to see BC'04 doing the same. I'd like to think they are using the same strategy with North Korea: giving the pipsqueak petulant little cockroach the silent treatment instead of pretending to take him seriously. Viacom and MTV can go suck a dead man's dick as far as I'm concerned. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 2:45:02 PM EDT
[#36]
You sir, are just the example of the "assholes" I was speaking of. I know M4 isn't a troll because I have read his post before but because he douts Bush he is at risk of being called a troll. Oh yeah, that stench your smelling must be a load of shit in your Depends diaper old man. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 2:45:20 PM EDT
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If the youth want to hear the president and his policies, then change the fucking channel to something News worthy and watch it for a few hours. I'm sure you'll understand then.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:37:01 PM EDT
[#38]
+1 |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:46:28 PM EDT
[#39]
GW is wise not to go on mtv, they would purposely make him look bad one way or another.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:46:46 PM EDT
[#40]
This is like Kerry begin interviewed on NRA TV.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:47:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Young people can get equal coverage of the president by watching the debates, speeches at rallys, news coverage etc. instead of watching MTV.
Im 26 and watching more than a minute of MTV makes me want to break stuff. Its always a group of kids on the verge of tears talking about their problems with being accepted or finding out who they are or trying to "make the team". Im left wondering what the future holds for us 
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:55:20 PM EDT
[#42]
No, its more like Kerry being interviewed by Larry Pratt, of the Gun Owners of America, and by Angel Shayama(sp?) of Keepandbeararms.com on national television in prime time, with all 80million gun owners in the US in arenas accross the country watching it. That is a much closer analogy to Bush going on MTV, only in the former case, there would still be people voting for Kerry.
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:57:07 PM EDT
[#43]
Where did M4 doubt Bush? M4 was giving bad campaign advance, but I don't see that he in any way doubted Bush. And, MTV sucks. No reason to add to their credability. |
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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:57:25 PM EDT
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I was like that in high school. By which I mean I wanted to throw stuff every time I heard some whiney fucktard with an MTV attitude, wether it was on MTV or in real life. At the age of 15, I feared for the US and the human race as we know it. I still do, but I have come to accept just how doomed we are. 
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Posted: 10/28/2004 5:18:53 PM EDT
[#45]
It is sick how much the media and hellywood control these people's lives.
They have no sense of what is real. |
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