Members of 82nd Airborne Division’s Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment, prepare to enter a building suspected of containing weapons in the village of Zurmat, Afghanistan, on Oct. 16.  Sgt. Michael Abney / U.S. Army



October 22, 2004. Boot Camp Basics for Iraq's Security Forces. Lt. Kyle Akers (left),talks with men at a food distribution warehouse in a room where weapons are stored for the security guards. Spc. Jim Schmorde, stands guard. The Recon Platoon, of which Akers and Schmorde are both members, was at sites to inspect possible voting locations for the future Iraqi elections. Recon Platoon checked out the warehouse and also abandoned Ministry of Interior buildings. The Recon Platoon is part of the Second Battalion, 162nd Infantry of the Oregon National Guard at Patrol Base Volunteer in Baghdad.  Randy L. Rasmussen/The Oregonian/Corbis



October 23, 2004 As dawn begins to break, Spc Derek Bitte,stands guard outside a Humvee parked at Bravo Bunker, home to a group of Iraqi National Guardsmen trained and supported by soldiers from Second Battalion, 162nd Infantry of the Oregon National Guard at Patrol Base Volunteer. Bitte, a driver with Charlie Company's Third Platoon, was part of a convoy to drop off soldiers from Volunteer.


U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment make their way through a residential section of Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), during a raid Thursday Oct. 28, 2004. Marines raided dozens of buildings, detained six Iraqis and recovered small arms and ammunition, while insurgents attacked the area with mortars and detonated a roadside bomb as the Marines returned to their base. There were no casualties. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



An Iraqi man and child exchange glances with a U.S. Marine during a raid in a residential section of Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Thursday Oct. 28, 2004. Marines raided dozens of buildings, detained six Iraqis and recovered small arms and ammunition, while insurgents attacked the area with mortars and detonated a roadside bomb as the Marines returned to their base. There were no casualties. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



A U.S. Marine from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment watches the area through his rifle scope during a raid in a residential section of Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Thursday Oct. 28, 2004. Marines raided dozens of buildings, detained six Iraqis and recovered small arms and ammunition, while insurgents attacked the area with mortars and detonated a roadside bomb as the Marines returned to their base. There were no casualties. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment prepare to enter a home during a raid in a residential section of Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Thursday Oct. 28, 2004. Marines raided dozens of buildings, detained six Iraqis and recovered small arms and ammunition, while insurgents attacked the area with mortars and detonated a roadside bomb as the Marines returned to their base. There were no casualties. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



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RAMADI, IRAQ: US marines deploy to protect the government center in Ramadi ,100 kms west of Baghdad, 28 October 2004. At least two Iraqis were killed and eight people wounded, including three US marines, in clashes between rebels and US troops in the restive Iraqi city of Ramadi, hospital and military sources said. AFP PHOTO/Patrick BAZ (Photo credit should read PATRICK BAZ/AFP/Getty Images)



A U.S. Marine from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment grimaces on patrol in Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Tuesday Oct. 26, 2004. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment run to a building after detonating explosives to open a gate during a mission in Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Tuesday Oct. 26, 2004. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



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RAMADI, IRAQ: A US marine patrol the streets of Ramadi,100 kms west of Baghdad, 28 October 2004. At least two Iraqis were killed and eight people wounded, including three US marines, in clashes between rebels and US troops in the restive Iraqi city of Ramadi, hospital and military sources said. AFP PHOTO/Patrick BAZ (Photo credit should read PATRICK BAZ/AFP/Getty Images)



A U.S. Marine from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment grimaces on patrol in Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Tuesday Oct. 26, 2004. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment run to a building after detonating explosives to open a gate during a mission in Ramadi, Iraq (news - web sites), Tuesday Oct. 26, 2004. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



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RAMADI, IRAQ: US marines escort a convoy in Ramadi, 100 kms west of Baghdad, 27 October 2004. President George W. Bush accused Democrat John Kerry of making "wild charges" about Iraq as they traded full-bore attacks on the war in the waning days of their vitriolic White House race. AFP PHOTO/Patrick BAZ (Photo credit should read PATRICK BAZ/AFP/Getty Images)



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RAMADI, IRAQ: A US marine uses a mountain bike to move within the Ramadi army camp some 100 kms west of the capital Baghdad, 26 October 2004. Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi warns of a surge in attacks in the run up to elections promised by January, as the US army announces the killing of a top aide to Iraq's most wanted man in the rebel-held city of Fallujah, 55 kms from Ramadi. AFP PHOTO/Patrick BAZ (Photo credit should read PATRICK BAZ/AFP/Getty Images)



Nathanial Henderson, a 25-year old Marine sergeant from Portland, Ore., sprints across the main road in Ramadi, 30 miles west of Falluja. Americans fear an attack on Falluja will drive insurgents to flee to Ramadi. Ashley Gilbertson for The New York Times



Marines have been under steady attack from guerrillas in Ramadi.  Ashley Gilbertson for The New York Times



While Ramadi is not exactly a "no go" zone for the marines, like the insurgent stronghold of Falluja 30 miles to the east, officers say it is fast slipping in that direction.  Ashley Gilbertson for The New York Times



Two marines scan the streets for Insurgents. Insurgents pop out of alleyways, mosques and a crowded market and fire at marines at will, then disappear when the Americans give chase.  Ashley Gilbertson for The New York Times


A Polish soldier stands in the turret of an armored vehicle during a patrol in the southern Iraqi town of Samawa. An armed group kidnapped a Polish woman living in Iraq (news - web sites) and demanded that Poland withdraw its 2,500 troops from the country, prompting an immediate refusal from Warsaw.(AFP/File/Joseph Barrak)



British soldiers from the Black Watch board a Hercules C-130 at Basra International Airport in southern Iraq (news - web sites), October 28, 2004. The Black Watch battle group, with attachments from 40 Commando Royal Marines, B Squadron Queen's Dragoon Guards and support from other units will be operating in the area where the U.S. 24 Marine Expeditionary Unit has been deployed. REUTERS/Maurice McDonald/Pool



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SAMAWA, IRAQ: Japanese soldiers help deliver fresh water in the town of Samawa, 270 kms south of Baghdad 28 October 2004. A top Japanese diplomat held talks in Jordan today with an Iraqi official as part of intense efforts to win the release of a Japanese hostage, Shosei Koda, 24, was taken hostage by an Al-Qaeda-linked Islamist group that has threatened to behead him unless Japan pulls its troops out of Iraq. AFP PHOTO/Essam AL-SUDANI (Photo credit should read ESSAM AL-SUDANI/AFP/Getty Images)


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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN - OCTOBER 28: Afghan security officers stand in front of a United Nations (UN) vehicle where three foreign election workers with the joint UN mission were kidnapped October 28, 2004 Kabul, Afghanistan. The kidnapping, the first of its kind, comes as official election results are about to be realeased, assuring President Hamid Karzai of a victory. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/Getty Images)



Armed police officers await command to begin an anti-terror drill under the scenario in which terrorists had attacked a chemical storehouse and took some hostages in China's eastern metropolis Shanghai Wednesday, Oct. 27, 2004. The comprehensive exercise, which is staged to test the emergency services' reactions in a simulated terrorist urban attack, is the first of its kind ever held in Shanghai, Xinhua news agency said. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Chen Fei)



A Canadian United Nations (news - web sites) peacekeeper aims his pistol during a patrol in the Bel-Aire neighborhood of Port-au-Prince, October 26, 2004. Haitian police and U.N. troops continued their patrols in the slum neighborhood, a part of the capital plagued by political violence. The poor neighborhood is full of supporters of former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who went into exile amid an armed revolt in February. More than 50 people have been killed this month in clashes between pro- and anti-Aristide gangs in Bel-Air and other slums where the former president had strong support. REUTERS/Daniel Morel



haitian policemen and United Nations (news - web sites) peacekeepers sweep through the Bel-Aire neighborhood of Port-au-Prince, October 26, 2004. Haitian police and U.N. troops continued their patrols in the slum neighborhood, a part of the capital plagued by political violence. The poor neighborhood is full of supporters of former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who went into exile amid an armed revolt in February. More than 50 people have been killed this month in clashes between pro- and anti-Aristide gangs in Bel-Air and other slums where the former president had strong support. REUTERS/Daniel Morel



A Jordanian United Nations (news - web sites) peacekeeper keeps his weapon at the ready during a patrol in the Bel-Aire neighborhood of Port-au-Prince, October 26, 2004. Haitian police and U.N. troops continued their patrols in the slum neighborhood, a part of the capital plagued by political violence. The poor neighborhood is full of supporters of former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who went into exile amid an armed revolt in February. More than 50 people have been killed this month in clashes between pro- and anti-Aristide gangs in Bel-Air and other slums where the former president had strong support. REUTERS/Daniel Morel



An armed soldier provides security while Thai-Muslim citizens check for names of their relatives listed outside a military camp in Pattani province, southern Thailand Wednesday, Oct. 27, 2004. At least 78 Muslim detainees suffocated or were crushed to death after police rounded up 1,300 people and packed them into trucks following a riot in southern Thailand, and Islamic leaders are warning the deaths could worsen sectarian violence. Six people were shot to death during the riot Monday, apparently by security forces. An additional person shot during the violence died later at hospital, and the overall death toll stood Wednesday at 85. (AP Photo/Apichart Weerawong)



An armed Thai soldier guides the traffic as Thai-Muslim citizens gather to check for names of their dead or alive relatives outside a military camp in Pattani province, southern Thailand Wednesday, Oct. 27, 2004. At least 78 Muslim detainees suffocated or were crushed to death after police rounded up 1,300 people and packed them into trucks following a riot in southern Thailand, and Islamic leaders are warning the deaths could worsen sectarian violence. Six people were shot to death during the riot Monday, apparently by security forces. An additional person shot during the violence died later at hospital, and the overall death toll stood Wednesday at 85. (AP Photo/Apichart Weerawong)



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NARATHIWAT, THAILAND: Thai soldiers keep vigil during a mass funeral ceremony of unidentified demonstrators in Narathiwat province southern Thailand, 28 October 2004. Muslim separatists in southern Thailand vowed to carry out revenge attacks after the deaths of 78 protesters who died mainly from suffocation after being crammed on military trucks. AFP PHOTO/PORNCHAI KITTIWONGSAKUL (Photo credit should read PORNCHAI KITTIWONGSAKUL/AFP/Getty Images)



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PATTANI, THAILAND: Thai soldiers with matchine guns, sit on a truck while patroling in Pattani province southern of Thailand, 27 October 2004. At least 84 Thai Muslims died, mainly from suffocation in the back of packed security force trucks, after police and troops broke up a violent protest in the kingdom's troubled south, officials said. AFP PHOTO/PORNCHAI KITTIWONGSAKUL (Photo credit should read PORNCHAI KITTIWONGSAKUL/AFP/Getty Images)



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MANILA, PHILIPPINES: About 500 Philippine marine soldiers board a Philippine Navy ship after a send off ceremony at the navy headquarters in Manila, 27 October 2004. The marines will be deployed in southern Sulu island where elements of the al-Qaeda linked Abu Sayyaf group are holed up. AFP PHOTO/JOEL NITO (Photo credit should read JOEL NITO/AFP/Getty Images)



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MANILA, PHILIPPINES: Philippine marine soldiers stand in line before boarding a Philippine Navy ship during a send off ceremony at the navy headquarters in Manila, 27 October 2004. The marines will be deployed in southern Sulu island where elements of the al-Qaeda linked Abu Sayyaf group are holed up. AFP PHOTO/JOEL NITO (Photo credit should read JOEL NITO/AFP/Getty Images)

Type88 Sniper Rifle in 5.8mm

Holy Crap! Those are cops? They win the most terrifying JBT award!!!!

Meanwhile, now that we're over the Commie fashion show, I posted some kick ass picks of Americans putting it on the line for us....

Quoted: Beer. Popcorn. Good music. I'm ready for this one.

Wanna bet?  I'll gut this thread in a heartbeat.

great pics, lumpy!

Quoted: Quoted: us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041026/i/r1706074161.jpg You work for the Canadian government. They loaned you to the UN The UN put you in Hati You are armed only with a DAO S&W semi-auto Congratulations. Your life sucks. Is that guy a soldier or actually Canadian police? Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...

Shoulder patch says "Police"
He's wearing a light blue uniform shirt, not CADPAT
The Candian Army doesnt issued DAO S&W pistols, nor do I believe they'd send you in with JUST a pistol.

Quoted: i liked the haitian pic, lumpy. don't think i didn't notice. eta: oh shit, nice phillipine pic. better than usual today, lump.

Miss the other M14?

Quoted: Who is "Getty Images" and why do "all our pictures belong to them"?

They're a news service.  They watermark their pics so people like me dont steal them and use them without paying for them.

Quoted: Most Marines use iron sights on their M16s, the only Marines that use ACOGs are designated marksman, which means this guy knows how to shoot better than most people posting here.

That information is actually incorrect these days.  Gradually the TA31F ACOG is becoming the issue optic for the M16A4 in the USMC.  Thats why you see them even on guns with M203s now.

Quoted: The information was correct as of a few months ago.  Wether some units purchased their own sights, or soldiers did, I don't know.  But the Marines do have designated marksman in their rifle squads.  And the picture of the guy with the M203, look at his ACOG.  It is not the same variant as the x4 power as the one issued to the marksman.

I cant argue with the hard facts, even though that is a TA31 mounted on that M203, and Ive seen it many times before in pics...

I'll defer to your expertise.