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Posted: 10/26/2004 3:55:12 PM EDT
I cant log on to either idenitity. on the welcome screen, what happens is if i click on an identity, it logs on and immediately logs off (justr barely flashes the desktop background.

i have tried F8 during start up and safe mode, last known good run, etc. no luck.

Basically I want to save the iles on my HD, so reinstall and format is not an option.

some things I have heard may work are doing a repair install, installing without format, or buying a new HD, setting the new one up as master and the old one as a slave, installing widnows on the new one, copying files from the old one to the new one and then formatting the old one.

Basically I want to save my files, because I will be getting an external HD and putting everything on that (which I should have done a while ago) and getting a new computer...

any ideas?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 3:58:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Will it run in safe mode at all?

MT
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:00:25 PM EDT
[#2]
nope... actually thats when the problem started... I had a HUGE spyware problem, and to delete all the crap I ran a diagnostic startup... and when I did that, I couldnt log on.



F8 safe mode, same shit. log on, immediately log off.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:19:54 PM EDT
[#3]
reinstall windows, but don't reformat the drive.  

Do a repair install basically.

Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:25:05 PM EDT
[#4]

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reinstall windows, but don't reformat the drive.  

Do a repair install basically.




ok.....

that will save the files?

the other problem with this is I have very little space left on the HD... does this matter?: or will it just install right over the old OS?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:33:03 PM EDT
[#5]
Boot disk!!!!


Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:34:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:43:02 PM EDT
[#7]

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Boot disk!!!!





is there even a boot disk for XP?

mine is bootleg

my friend is coming over in a while with the xp cd....
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:43:32 PM EDT
[#8]

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Hah, my friends did the SAME thing a month ago.

I couldn't get it back until I re-installed.



were you able to save the contents of the HD?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:44:08 PM EDT
[#9]

Do a repair install basically.


"Repair" on all of the XP Dell CD's I have takes you to a command prompt.  Is there some sort of secret way to get the OEM boot CD's to do a reinstall?  I certainly couldn't find it nor could two other people I had look at it nor could Dell's tech support.  I've been reinstalling a system from scratch every two weeks or so, so I'd appreciate any help.z
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:54:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Re-format.

The only way to get ride of the problem.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:55:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:58:18 PM EDT
[#12]

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Hah, my friends did the SAME thing a month ago.

I couldn't get it back until I re-installed.



were you able to save the contents of the HD?



Of course, just do as already suggested, re-fresh reinstall.

You'll lose your profile and will have to re-install your apps, but you'll have all the actual files on your computer still.

If you have a start-up disk for say, Dell, hopefully you have an option to NOT format your drive, and you'll get the same effect as previously stated.



nah as far as i know its a regu;ar winblows cd... well a bootleg of it.

Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:58:44 PM EDT
[#13]
If you have access to a second PC (yours or a friend's), rip your hard drive out of your PC and install it in the second PC as a slave disk.  Boot the PC.  Your disk will show up as drive D: or whatever on the second PC.  Copy the files you want to save to the C drive of PC 1 (or burn to CD or whatever).
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:59:17 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Re-format.

The only way to get ride of the problem.




\im sure the root cause of the problem willl still be there, but as long as i can get in to copy the files to a external HD its good to go.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:22:24 PM EDT
[#15]
I had that same problem in a lab of Dell GX240s at my worksite.  Had to 're-image' the computers as I could find no way to fix that problem.  
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:26:00 PM EDT
[#16]

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I had that same problem in a lab of Dell GX240s at my worksite.  Had to 're-image' the computers as I could find no way to fix that problem.  



what is reimage and how do u do it?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:27:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Linux
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:32:44 PM EDT
[#18]
Ok, boot up with the XP cd and go through like you are going to re-install. DO NOT choose the 'R' for the repair console, this takes you to a command line interface. Once past this it will continue and give you another chance to do a repair. PICK THIS ONE. If you get asked if you want to delete a partition or the like, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR. I successfully repaired Mrs. ByteTheBullet's PC this past weekend using this. Oh, I am a computer nerd by trade if you don't already know. This isn't guaranteed to work but it is your best bet next to a complete reinstall. You can put your hard drive in another PC to get your files off -OR- buy a new drive install XP on it and then put your 'screwed' drive in as a slave drive.

There are other options, but these look best for you right now.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:33:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:36:47 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Ok, boot up with the XP cd and go through like you are going to re-install. DO NOT choose the 'R' for the repair console, this takes you to a command line interface. Once past this it will continue and give you another chance to do a repair. PICK THIS ONE. If you get asked if you want to delete a partition or the like, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR. I successfully repaired Mrs. ByteTheBullet's PC this past weekend using this. Oh, I am a computer nerd by trade if you don't already know. This isn't guaranteed to work but it is your best bet next to a complete reinstall. You can put your hard drive in another PC to get your files off -OR- buy a new drive install XP on it and then put your 'screwed' drive in as a slave drive.

There are other options, but these look best for you right now.


ByteTheBullet  (-:




when you say you've gone too far what do you mean? that i erased my shit?

can you give me instructions on what to do?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:37:44 PM EDT
[#21]

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Linux



My suggestion exactly. Had the same thing happen to a guy last week and lent him my handy-dandy Knoppix Live Linux on a CD ROM. You set the computer's BIOS to boot from CD, slam the Knoppix distribution of Linux in and boot from the CD. It will do no harm at all to the PC's hard drive but it will allow you to open the hard drive and move files - via the LAN to another computer or to floppies etc. Pull the Linux disk out and then you can format your Windoze machine.



thats sounds like a good idea..... where do you get a linux cd?
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:43:25 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

when you say you've gone too far what do you mean? that i erased my shit?

can you give me instructions on what to do?



If it asks you about formatting or deleting a partition, back out and look for repair on a previous screen. You have to 'agree' to delete a partition, so don't. These really are the directions as best I can remember without being able to go through the screens again. Is your friend computer literate?

Oh, the re-imaging they are talking about is using the restore CDs that come with a new name brand system.

What kind of system is it? How new/old is it?


ByteTheBullet  (-:
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:44:57 PM EDT
[#23]

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Linux



My suggestion exactly. Had the same thing happen to a guy last week and lent him my handy-dandy Knoppix Live Linux on a CD ROM. You set the computer's BIOS to boot from CD, slam the Knoppix distribution of Linux in and boot from the CD. It will do no harm at all to the PC's hard drive but it will allow you to open the hard drive and move files - via the LAN to another computer or to floppies etc. Pull the Linux disk out and then you can format your Windoze machine.



thats sounds like a good idea..... where do you get a linux cd?



Yes, this too is a good idea. Wasn't sure if you had a network and all.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:47:37 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Linux



My suggestion exactly. Had the same thing happen to a guy last week and lent him my handy-dandy Knoppix Live Linux on a CD ROM. You set the computer's BIOS to boot from CD, slam the Knoppix distribution of Linux in and boot from the CD. It will do no harm at all to the PC's hard drive but it will allow you to open the hard drive and move files - via the LAN to another computer or to floppies etc. Pull the Linux disk out and then you can format your Windoze machine.



thats sounds like a good idea..... where do you get a linux cd?



Yes, this too is a good idea. Wasn't sure if you had a network and all.


ByteTheBullet  (-:




network? nah its just a home PC with a cable modem
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:50:04 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

when you say you've gone too far what do you mean? that i erased my shit?

can you give me instructions on what to do?



If it asks you about formatting or deleting a partition, back out and look for repair on a previous screen. You have to 'agree' to delete a partition, so don't. These really are the directions as best I can remember without being able to go through the screens again. Is your friend computer literate?

Oh, the re-imaging they are talking about is using the restore CDs that come with a new name brand system.

What kind of system is it? How new/old is it?


ByteTheBullet  (-:



yea the kid who is coming over is pretty good with computers... he built the computer in question, about 2 yrs ago. I forgot all the specifics but its an AMD athlon processer, I think its 2.0 ghz
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:52:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Buy him a six pack and tell him he can keep a copy of your porn if he salvages all your, uh, important files. If he builds them he should be able to fix you up.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:05:06 PM EDT
[#27]
You might have to do a parallel OS installation, which would essentially have two XP OS's on the disk, both "pointing" to the same file addresses. This would allow you to access the files & back them up through the temp installed OS, then you can run a format+install, which will start you at "ground zero" again. Naturally, whatever you don't back up will essentially be toast after the format+install is done.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:07:30 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Buy him a six pack and tell him he can keep a copy of your porn if he salvages all your, uh, important files. If he builds them he should be able to fix you up.


ByteTheBullet  (-:





believe it or not its not really the porn that I'm worried about losing, its stuff that I've made myself, like ringtones for my cellphone, photoshops, etc. shit i actually spent my time on.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:14:40 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Buy him a six pack and tell him he can keep a copy of your porn if he salvages all your, uh, important files. If he builds them he should be able to fix you up.


ByteTheBullet  (-:





believe it or not its not really the porn that I'm worried about losing, its stuff that I've made myself, like ringtones for my cellphone, photoshops, etc. shit i actually spent my time on.



Your idea of important might not be the same as his...if you know what I mean! I would cry if I had to try to recover from a catastrophic hard drive failure...and I KNOW I should back up, I tell people every day to do it. Oh, you do not have a catastrophic failure...

I am sure things will work out for you! Give us an update!


ByteTheBullet  (-:
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 9:10:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Repair install worked

for some reason the sound card is not being recognized, but whatever... it looks like the files are all good.
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