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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:34:09 PM EDT
[#1]
So you're gonna fail History and German?
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:34:23 PM EDT
[#2]
good work BUT and its a big BUT dont let people trick you into stating there point, its kinda like the old trap i use to use in debates, But you will partially agree that blah blah blah? then they compromise a little and you nail them.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:34:37 PM EDT
[#3]
 Go get'em Tiger!
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:34:44 PM EDT
[#4]
See son, your mistake was guns ensure a civilized society...
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:37:15 PM EDT
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...and be labeled as a possible gun nut and Columbine copy cat threat. Be careful out there. -LS |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:37:20 PM EDT
[#6]
I didnt say they insured it.I just said that we dont live in civilized society and that for self defence guns are a great tool in making yourself safer.Also they would help in terms of
-invasion -big gov. takeover I'm gunna bring it up tomorrow again. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:37:26 PM EDT
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There are plenty of uses for guns in a civilized world! I know, because I live in a civilized world! Civilization is not a cure for crime, anger, hatred or violence. People contort every foundational truth and fact, and then wonder why our rights are being assaulted as they are. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:38:34 PM EDT
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sorry... wasn't clear... you're argument should have been there is a civilized society because of guns... you know... God created man, Smith and Wesson made them equal... |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:38:55 PM EDT
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So is your German teacher as much of a stick in the mud as mine? If one of us is even smiling, she figures we're not paying attention.
Reminds me of when the Young Conservatives debated the Young democrats on gun control at my school. I got a bunch of statistics and rattled them off and made my point... and then the democrat who went up said, "I don't need any statistics or papers to say what I have to say. Guns are bad." It was hilarious. Through all of our debates, we backed our arguments up with fact, they used their own personal feelings. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:40:59 PM EDT
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Please dont take this as making me look anti gun but if the world was a perfect civilized place,there wouldnt be a need for guns.No violence would have no need for self defence and hunting is not a need anymore either.Not saying there should be any bans though.Guns are the best hobby ever!But the world aint about need anymore.Its about what you want.And by golly I want guns!!
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:46:31 PM EDT
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While you're in school, check up on this grammatical rule: After a sentence, a period and TWO SPACES should precede the next sentence. Anyway, keep up the good work. The truth is the light, and many in school, students and teachers alike, are in the dark. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:48:05 PM EDT
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I know about the space after the sentance and that crap.I just dont like doing it.That must be the tenth time someone told me that.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:59:04 PM EDT
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Sorry, but I must disagree with part of this statement. "Hunting is not a need any more." Hunting serves multiple purposes. It is not merely a hobby or a method of obtaining food that has not been tainted by things such as mad cow or bovine growth hormone or any of a variety of things that occur to processed foods. It is also a method of population control. Since man has killed off most of the predators which used to control populations of animals such as deer, there is no population control other than the hunter and starvation. Without hunters, deer would overpopulate and then starve. Disease would be another factor that takes control during periods of starvation. Also, deer migration would cause mass quantities of accidents with populations that are much higher than at current levels. Another thing, Ask your German teacher what happened in 1938 when a certain little austrian banned all private ownership of guns in Germany. Ask him what is happening in Australia right now. Ask why the cities with the most stringent anti gun laws also have the highest crime rates. Maybe something just might sink in. 
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:00:44 PM EDT
[#14]
How could I forget population control!Ok hunting is necassary.Sorry.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:06:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Do what I do...
Clip out a whole bunch of murder & rape stories from the newspaper, and put 'em in a little binder pated to some sheets... or photo album sticky things work the best. Then cutout a bunch of pro-gun self-defense stories, and put 'em in the same binder or a different one. When someone asks, break it out, and just let 'em flip through all these dead people & rape stories. Newspaper clipping ironically make a lot of people see reality. Kinda freaky. Then let 'em flip to the other section. Tell 'em, the people in the 1st section are dead, the people in the 2nd section are alive, & "I know which section I want my family to be in." Haven't really converted anyone with that, but they stop arguing and don't have anything to say either. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:10:43 PM EDT
[#16]
The answer to that question is, "YES". PERIOD. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:13:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:15:40 PM EDT
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Sam Colt made them equal, John Browning made some men more equal than others. 
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:20:34 PM EDT
[#19]
When he asked if there was a need for guns I said yes a couple times then he said some other stuff then I said "In a civilized world blah blah blah."I'm to lazy to type it.Yes there is a need in the world.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:21:03 PM EDT
[#20]
The presence of weaponry is exactly what keeps civilization, "civilized."
An armed society is a polite society. -Fuji |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:24:10 PM EDT
[#21]
What is it with German teachers?
Mine would run JFK assassination conspiracy videos during classtime. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:30:50 PM EDT
[#22]
He is just a liberal.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:31:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Hence the nature of debates. Truley logical people don't need them to reinforce their positions, they just need more facts. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:31:55 PM EDT
[#24]
try having an anti-gun chief.
although, i beat him every time at the gun debate, some people you'll just never convince. so i just go with it and show him pics of various kick ass FAs from our catalogs that he should sign off for me.  gets him every time hence, show the your whiny prof pics of your kewl toys & make him cringe. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:33:13 PM EDT
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While I agree that ONE SPACE is absolutely needed  some of the academic journals I publish in are now shifting to only one space between sentences. I don't know if this is a "new rule" or just something ideosynchratic to my field.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:34:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Ya when I get my carbine i'm going to show him pictures just to make him think I am crazy.LOL I hope he does think I'm crazy.He is one crazy mofo though.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:34:37 PM EDT
[#27]
If you are failed or your grade is penalized, or you are harrassed for this, I am sure there is a lawyer on the board here who will write a threatening letter for free.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:36:20 PM EDT
[#28]
My teachers dont harass they just sorta sit there.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:41:08 PM EDT
[#29]
That's a REALLY good idea right there. If you have a confrontation or a disagreement with a teacher, bring a picture of your rifle to school and deliberately try to make him think you are crazy!!  I hope your parents enjoy having talks with school administrators. (I'm not saying it's wrong to show your buddies and friends at school pictures of your gat, but to deliberately show it to your antigun teacher to antagonize him is stupid, IMO). |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:41:20 PM EDT
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Tell him that the Jews during WWII held the germans at bay many times with "GUNS" Probably saved 1000's of Jewish people from the "Germans".
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:42:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Nah I just bring the pictures to show my friends and I would ask him if he wanted to see them.Everybody likes looking at the pretty ARs.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:57:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Although this is underhanded, but inform him taht one of hitlers first acts was to ban or register all firearms owned by civilians. So ask him if the United States is willing ot make the same mistake.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:58:13 PM EDT
[#33]
As somebody who used to be a high school German (and history) teacher, here's why: German language is tainted by German history, namely the Nazis. Nobody wants to be accused of being a Nazi. Better to be considered a Communist, than a Nazi. Or so the thinking goes. Therefore, anybody who is a German teacher, in my experience, veers very far to the left politically and socially in order to overcompensate for the past deeds of the Germans, with whom he/she has chosen to associate him/herself. As a consequence, German teachers feel especially put upon and worry about getting tarred with the same anti-Nazi brush that is swiped against any conservative, esp. in the academic world. The kind of people that become German teachers often equate conservative politics with Hitler, Fascism and National Socialism. There are only about 5,000 German teachers in the US- the American Association of Teachers of German is a VERY small, but very liberal organization. Since there aren't many jobs in German anyway, and the positions don't pay well, acc. to surveys done periodically by the AATG, the majority of the jobs go to single people- usually self-described left-wing gay or lesbian academic types. A blanket statement? Maybe, but I just remember reading what the organization put out in its newsletters. (I am no longer a member of the AATG, BTW.) Even though I used to vote Democrat in my youth, my colleagues in German always referred to me as the "right-wing nut" 
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Posted: 10/26/2004 2:09:50 PM EDT
[#34]
IN all fairness - U.S. Democrats would probably be considered a right wing party in Germany 
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Posted: 10/26/2004 2:11:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Germany was a very civilized place to live....until 1933 and thereafter.
So weapons in the hands of the citizens are needed at least as much in a civilized place as in a primitive place. Actually, even moreso, since in a civilized nation, the authorities are, of course, going to be armed to the teeth. Eric The(Enlightened)Hun 
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Posted: 10/26/2004 2:18:42 PM EDT
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The old rule for typed manuscripts was always two spaces. Professional typesetters just spaced stuff out so it looked right when doing the final documents. Modern computers allow us to type in fonts where not every letter takes up the same space. the lower case "l" does not take up as much space as a "w" - but they used to on old typewriters, or even monotypic fonts available today on you 'puter - such as "Courier." There thus used to be a lot more clumsy white space in words, so two spaces was needed to make the space obvious. The people that developed fonts like Times New Roman, developed it to to pretty much do what the old typesetters used to do by hand. The problem is, the advent of desktop publishing and such capabilities caufght the world off guard, and the old mindset is tought to break. Pick up an professionally published old book, though, and there are definitely NOT two spaces after sentences. FWIW, the US Army dictates Times New Roman font and 2 spaces after sentences in all correspondence. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 2:53:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2004 4:31:40 PM EDT
[#38]
That is SO full of shit I don't know where to begin. What exactly does huting have to do with violence or self-defense? Hello? Eating? |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 5:00:06 PM EDT
[#39]
I said disregard hunting from that because I forgot about population control for the deer.We no longer need hunting for food because we can now just go to the store.Again,I am not anti gun in anyway whatsoever so dont even try to think I am.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 5:04:02 PM EDT
[#40]
DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT DO THIS. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SHOW A PICTURE OF A GUN TO YOUR TEACHER. DON'T FUCKING DO IT. DON'T DO IT. DON'T FUCKING DO IT. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 5:11:43 PM EDT
[#41]
Time to take him schiessend...
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Posted: 10/26/2004 5:26:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2004 5:56:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Word. I had to turn in a couple of kids who were drawing pics of guns in their notebooks, bec. of school policy. Funny thing is, twenty years ago, I did the very same thing when I was a kid, a lot. The kids were perfectly normal, one was quiet, (as if that's a worrying sign), and the other a loudmouthed jock. Both were just bored with school (study hall). Neither was a psychopath, but school administrators see gunowners as psychopaths, so, they got talked to by their "guidance counselors", two of the weirdest people I ever met, BTW. I have no idea how these counselors got and kept their jobs, but they were two very strange women. But even they saw no problems with these boys. Go figure. I'm glad I'm not a teacher any more....
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:00:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Dont worry I was joking about showing him the picture.Seriously I was.
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:31:16 PM EDT
[#45]
I wish I could repeat High School again, knowing then what I know now.
I would be the torment of our administration, until they kicked me out, or gave up. 
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:37:34 PM EDT
[#46]
In a Eutopian world where there is no room for evil in the hearts of men, where gov'ts honor human rights and no one commits a crime, guns are not needed.
However, we don't live in a Eutopian world now do we? |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:57:35 PM EDT
[#47]
Actually, the "two spaces rule" related to typewriters. It is now outdated and no longer even mentioned in current writing style guides. If you look, he wasn't putting any space at all between the period and the start of the next sentence. Irregardless, keep up the good work opening people's eyes about the current state of gun laws. About two years ago I was a chaperone at a school campout. While there, a couple teachers (whom I had known since back when I was a student) and I got into a discussion about assault weapons. As usual the old "Who needs an assault weapon to hunt?" argument came up, and I had to point out that the Browning BAR mark 1 I had used for deer for years could be considered an "Assault Weapon" with just a few cosmetic changes. Both of these guys had used semi-automatic shotguns and rifles for years, but they were misled by the media into picturing machineguns instead of the weapons they currently own. Edited to fix a wording flaw. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:59:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2004 8:02:29 PM EDT
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The even sillier part is that many word processors remove the extra space, so it's likely he isn't even able to tell, and/or is just seeing things. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 10:00:26 PM EDT
[#50]
Kick your teachers ass!!! My teachers never cut me off, just like I didn't cut them off. Screw them. And they wonder why they have so many problems in schools nowadays. Most of my teachers where also farmers, carpenters, hunters.
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