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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:31:56 AM EDT
Folks, if this does not smack of the desperation and all but certain admission of defeat, I don't know what does. For days we have seen the jackass at electoral-vote.com select only those polls which showed a strong Kerry performance. The past couple of days has seen a slew of polls from the most respected polling firm (Mason Dixon) spelling out bad news for Kerry. Well the idiot is no longer able to show a Kerry lead... and so he twists and contorts and through his very best selective vision, he shows a tie!
EDITED... IN A RARE MID-DAY CORRECTION ELECTORAL-VOTE DUNDERHEAD CORRECTS MAP TO SHOW BUSH BACK IN LEAD! And you know damn well it is a bigger lead than this!  Kerry 257 Bush 271 Here are the numbers from realclearpolitics.com
Zogby continues to climb to a 2 point Bush advantage. The only poll in the nation showing a Kerry lead is AP. It is also interesting to note that AP was caught in a redhanded liw when they implied that Iran was endorsing president Bush which sent the liberals into a tizzy and they started shouting terrorists support Bush. Well, what Iran actually said, and was pointed out in a Turkish news story that AP worked from, was that it made no difference to Iran who won. HUGE difference! The Iowa Political Futures Market still shows Bush with a healthy 58 to Kerry's 42... I rather suspect there might be a little profit taking going on as there appears to be some slight downward movement despite increasingly positive Bush poll numbers.  Tradesports continues to show tremendous Bush momentum  While Realclearpolitics Electoral Map appears to be down for the moment, the numbers are good!  Kerry 189 Bush 227 This is what we call Big Mo in the game, and if it continues for a few more days you are going to see a Bush margin that will be very difficult to overcome. However, 11 days IS and eternity in politics... |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:37:15 AM EDT
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Kerry is gonna win
 ETA Shouldn't this be the Oct 22nd map ? |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:40:22 AM EDT
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It should, but since you make the same tired post every day I figured I'd give you the Groundhog Day Treatment... |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:41:18 AM EDT
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How do you figure? Bush will win FL, WI, OH, PA and MN. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:42:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:43:26 AM EDT
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45 States!
but only if we all get out and VOTE!!!!!! SGtar15 |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 4:45:44 AM EDT
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Actually I'd like to see the polling data for OH , PA, and FL whoever gets 2 of those will win. I see Bush getting OH , but I think PA and FL are too close. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 5:43:17 AM EDT
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All Florida polling Data since October 1 from realclearpolitics
Hard to say which way Ohio is going, but our folks in Ohio are reporting positive developments. Agreed, its close. Pennsylvanis
I do think the NRA jumping into the race and sending sportsmen in from other states to court the PA hunters might well have an effect. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 5:43:36 AM EDT
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I'm voting! Hubby is voting for the first time in his life, because I registered him and he will go if I have to take him at gunpoint!  I even convinced my mother that sKerry is a piece of shit (mom is democrat is voting Bush) But I am in a RED state.. all I have accomplished is getting more popular vote. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 5:45:42 AM EDT
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Dump the hubby and give me a call... I've never missed a vote and I'm in a blue state... think of how crazy we could drive the liberals with you by my side... |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 5:49:13 AM EDT
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If you dont VOTE--dont post, just GO AWAY!!!!
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Posted: 10/22/2004 5:49:49 AM EDT
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that would be a site. But I'll stick with hubby.. he really is a good guy.. after all he bought me my first AR15. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:08:08 AM EDT
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Oh sure... typical woman... by her a pretty baubile and she is your's... 
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:25:53 AM EDT
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Kerry is not going to win. Period.
Bush has got it in the bag. Sgtar15 is right. It's going to be a landslide and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see 45 states taken... ...but only if we all get out and vote!!! 
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:35:47 AM EDT
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Bullshit! ABC News is showing that Bush is leading Kerry, and that Bush has 50% support in the polls, AND the LIBERAL Detroit Free Press is showing that Bush has a 3% lead in MICHIGAN of all places. Michigan is a state that has not even been considered to be in play for well over a month! I am more convinced now than ever: 45 States and Maybe California! |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:50:25 AM EDT
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I've been pretty pessimistic up to this point. I'm glad you all have been pointing out other sources of polls, but you missed the one that finally turned me around. The Vegas payoffs for Bush are 3/5. After the debates the Vegas payoff for Kerry 2/1.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:50:47 AM EDT
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I never see Kali going red and I fear for my state, way to much union BS around hear the force is strong with the Democraps here in PA.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:55:42 AM EDT
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USA Today has a Gallup graphic on its front page today showing Kerry leading Bush in Ohio, and with that being a trend.
Just bringing you information. I have no idea if it's accurate or not. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 6:57:12 AM EDT
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I have no idea what that means, as I never, EVER gamble (I work too hard for my money to throw it away). Would you please educate me on this? |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:01:21 AM EDT
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Once again, selective poll citing... the responsible thing to do is show all the recent polls for a state and allow people to decide... instead of spoon feeding them. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:01:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:04:14 AM EDT
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well maybe not 45 states but...BUSH IS GONNA WIN |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:11:32 AM EDT
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The payoff for Bush is $3 on a $5 dollar bet. The payoff for Kerry is $2 for every $1 bet. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:13:30 AM EDT
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Both should be banned! |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:14:19 AM EDT
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Oh it's only been 4 days. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:16:30 AM EDT
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Bush ticked up another point today in the Zogby tracking poll.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:17:32 AM EDT
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Bush.
45 states. Faith can move mountains. Now, EVERYONE PICK UP YOUR SHOVEL AND GET BACK TO WORK MOVING THAT MOUNTAIN!!!!!! How much clearer can I make it, folks? |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:22:03 AM EDT
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I live in a state that is a lock for Bush. It doesn't matter though, I just can't bring myself to vote anymore. I can't live the lie. I am tired of being stolen from and having no recourse, I am tired of the fearmongering and I am tired of big government and socialism. I have not yet seen anything in Bush that makes me think he is anything but a globalist. Today the State Deparment announced that all US passports are going to have RFID chips in them. Pretty soon, we are going to have internal passports, aka National IDs masquerading as driver's licenses. This is totalitarian. I have chosen to not be a part of it and to not encourage this slide into tyranny and that means I can't vote anymore because voting gives you NO CHOICE--this stuff is going to happen whether Americans elect Bush or Kerry. Get it? |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:24:07 AM EDT
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cliff's notes version for those that don't want to read blabbering whining. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:38:00 AM EDT
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 classic!
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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:40:09 AM EDT
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Hey you are a librarian (and as such) have never had a real job, so we don't care what you think! |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:14:02 AM EDT
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Hey Hiram, looks like electoral-vote.com did a mid-day update. It's now K-257 / B-271.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:34:23 AM EDT
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Can't live the lie eh? Well then come up with a better solution. Get yourself elected to something and create change from within. Help prevent this so called slide into tyranny you speak of. Now in my opinion, I don't see any draconian consequences from a chip in a passport. My whole life I've had to use my passport three times. Forgive me, but what's the problem? Now National ID's? Come on, there would be such a huge fight and uproar that it will never fly. Bush is a globalist? Hell, I'm a globalist and so are the clients and companies I represent. That's the real word. With respect, I'm trying to understand why you would just bail. Your vote can make a difference even if Bush has your state locked up. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:42:48 AM EDT
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Can't get onto the site... |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:47:10 AM EDT
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Try it now.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:49:29 AM EDT
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Amen!  (He says as he picks up his shovel...)
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:52:16 AM EDT
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I told you guys the state polls lag the current national results.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:55:49 AM EDT
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You lucky 'messenger' bastard, I was ready to come after you with a 2x4
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Posted: 10/22/2004 9:58:07 AM EDT
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Final Projection is still for Kerry, at least he admits why.
www.electoral-vote.com/pred/index.html |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:12:20 AM EDT
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I can't get onto the site right now. Either another hacker attack from DU because he is telling the truth or too many Repubs on the site basking in the glow.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:15:04 AM EDT
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So basically, you're living a fantasy. You think that things will somehow get better by doing nothing. Or maybe you think that we might as well start a civil war. Take a look at political history, and think about how you go about making political changes (hint: The Socialists have been doing it. Their goals may be wrong, but their method is right-on.) |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:17:07 AM EDT
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Is VA really on the bubble? I have a hard time believing that.
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:21:14 AM EDT
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Lotta union there. Plus, you know, Kerry's a HUNTER. 
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:24:06 AM EDT
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STOP IT ALREADY! 
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:24:31 AM EDT
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this has to be discouragine to the liberals, President Bush can lose PA and OH and still win the election. 
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:28:38 AM EDT
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In all actuallity I hope to see Kerry in the lead "in the polls" before the election. Democrats always sign up a bunch of folks to vote but don't have good turnout. Republicans don't sign up as many but usually have a solid turnout. Let the democrats think they're in the lead and let them stay home.
"Vote Democrat, It's easier than working." |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:28:39 AM EDT
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Did you guys see the Supreme Court Justices on that site.
Justice Appointed by Sworn in Age Stephen Breyer Clinton 1994 66 Ruth Bader Ginsburg Clinton 1993 71 Anthony M. Kennedy Ford 1975 68 Sandra Day O'Connor Reagan 1981 74 William H. Rehnquist Nixon 1972 80 Antonin Scalia Reagan 1986 68 David H. Souter Bush 1990 65 John Paul Stevens Ford 1975 84 Clarence Thomas Bush 1990 56 2 of them are in their 80's!  |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:31:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:36:46 AM EDT
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Technically it is possible. Realisticly, Bush is going to have to go 2 for 3 in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Anything else is too close for comfort, especially given the makeup of the courts in those states. Yes, my OPTIMISTIC prediction is that this election will be decided by the courts. |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:39:28 AM EDT
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that's a worst case scenario for President Bush imo, i think he'll take 300+ EVs |
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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:39:29 AM EDT
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If the polls are varying this wildly 10 days away, I can see why Kerry pre-ordered ten thousand lawyers to contest the vote (unless he wins).
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