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Posted: 10/21/2004 6:05:31 PM EDT
We watched Deliverance tonight; had been about 15 years since seing it the first time. We were wondering if there are still places down south where mountain people live like they used to.
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I live in East Tennessee, and have hiked the Appalachain trail alot, and i have family that lives in some pretty remote areas. So i have seen some pretty funny stuff, but nothing that bad.
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Not like they 'used' to, as the luxuries of civilization have pretty much covered all of the lower 48, so power and basic plumbing is normally present. However, hillbillies are most certainly still out there...
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Not just in Appalachia.
More like from the eastern slope of the Blueridge, then west in a band about 3 or 4 hundred miles wide to about Muskogee. |
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I'm currently working in southern WV and there are still some VERY backwards people down there! It's a different kind of life for sure, but plenty of good people there also.
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So in other words, they're the modernized Jeff Foxworthy type hillbillies and not the kind that brew their own whiskey in a still?
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I came to Tn. from Chicago and believed all the hillbilly stories. Some local guys and I went on a canoe trip down the buffalo river. We had to rent canoes and gear. I swear I was waiting for banjos to start playing. Peoples houses looked like third world shit. No education or teeth. That was years ago, I doubt much has changed.
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oh heck yes, anyone see that HBO documentary about those ppl living in what i think was Hazard county KY? All of them were related in some form or other, and they were like 30 miles from "town" Iv`e personally seen some places just about like that scattered through mississippi as well.
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Before I got married one thing I would do besides go shooting was drive. I would leave early in the morning and not come back till I wanted to. Sometimes I would be gone for 2 days or so. Anyway, this one time I was in South East Tennessee and was going down this little country road. Up on a hill to the left of me was an old trailer and a sign out in the front yard. The sign read "BISKITS n GRAVE" I slowed down and backed up because I didn't understand what I just read. I had to set there for a minute before I relized they HAD NO IDEA HOW TO SPELL "BISQUITS AND GRAVY"! Honestly that bothered me some. I made sure my 1911 was in easy reach and kept motoring along. I've got other stories about folks out in the boonies, but I'm a little tired to go through them. Good NYTE
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sure, they still have six teeth, and four of them are still in thier pockets
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Yes, and in Mississippi too.
Don't f*ck with them if you value your health. |
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And this year they're all voting absentee and Democrat.....go figure.
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You better believe there are some real hill folk here. There are places that don't have running water and little electricity. There are places along the Tn/Ky line that you don't want to go unless you are kin.
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As the great grandson of a "hillbillie" I can tell you that those folks have forgot more about living off the land than the refined city dwellers will ever know. You can make fun of their appearance, mannerisms and way of life but they are the most honest unpretentious people you will ever meet. I don't understand how someone living in a big ol' shithole, like New York or Detroit, could poke fun of anybody. |
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Most of 'em are cooking meth now. |
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It's just like anywhere else; you get yer good and you get yer bad. Human nature dictates that you remember the bad more than the good. I've passed up a lot of opportunities to stay in West Virginia. It's home. My greatest nightmare is that West Virginia will be "discovered" by the urban elites. I understand that it's that way in Oregon. The resulting political dynamic would be interesting, though. West Virginia is a heavily Democratic state, but our Democrats would be Republican anywhere else. The local Ds are mostly anti-abortion and pro-gun, but they like their government handouts. That's what keeps 'em in the party. I'd love to see what happened if you got a big influx of urban liberals who tried to hijack the party. |
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You should have stopped. I'll bet that was some of the best "biskits n grave" in the world. Damn, now I'm hungry. |
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Absolutely. |
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Anyone know what they use to whipe their poopers with after taking a shit in the outhouse?
Try corn cobs! |
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Absolutley..f'in..tivley!
My parents retired to Appalachia several years ago. I can unequivocally attest that there are Hillbillies still there. The Bastages killed a spotted doe in their driveway last year and plooped is in the bed of their rusty pickup and drove away. |
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When you say "Hillbilly", are you referring to the type of people where the conversation might start something like this...?
"Gee, Uncle Daddy, that feels real good!" |
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UUMMMM Yeah. Look up the Blue Fugates sometime. If you find out anything more than basic, who, when, where...I want you to IM me.
They say the only difference in here and LA is in LA they kill ya, here they keep ya in a box under the bed Sleep tight, y'all. ETA: Tell Jesco White I said, "HIII" |
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Having "grow'd" up near the WV panhandle and having spent quite a bit of time in "MACdowell" and Kanawa counties (as well as in Ohio across the river from Huntington) I can unequivocally say YES, hillbillies exist and thrive in them hollers. The Mountain State. I miss it at times. Thems my kin. |
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From personal experience: Polk, Stone, Hickory, Cedar, St. Clair counties. The counties between Springfield and Arkansas still have plenty of 'em, but city folks are starting to stake their claims aroudn there. |
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Actually there's red cobs and white cobs, white cobs are scarce so ya wipe with a red cob first, THEN a white cob (so you can tell if ya need to use another red cob). |
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JESSCO! I'm working in "LA" (Logan Area) not to far from "Man" My secretary has some wild stories of this place! Lots of drug heads and beat up cars. No point in having a nice vehicle with all the coal trucks. Got cornered by this absolutely crazy fucked up hillbilly at a hardware store. He was very grossly dirty and ended up telling me about screwing some young girl (13?)he'd raised since she was a kid. really creeped me out! The Hatfield-McCoy ATV trail system is awesome! (Around 400 miles of trails to ride!) Also worked in "PIKE Co. KY" one time! same story only it was a dry county! (NO BEER ) I will add though, WEST-BY-GOD-VIRGINIA is a great state to live in and i'm proud to live here, just don't want to live down where KY has infected it! (just kidding) We're are all progun and have plenty of places to shoot and hunt. |
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Go to a Wal-Mart at 2 am anywhere in the rural south and find out.
I know of a whole culture that still goes to the store only for cigs, booze, flour, sugar, and ammo. They make their money in shine, meth and truck stop whoring. Edited: they usually are wearing hats with the number 3 on them. No disrespect intended, it just tells you what their values are. |
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You go to the same Walmart as me? |
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Yes they still exist up north in Poco County, but the uppity ones in Greenbriar County are all citified with their fancy ass Wal-Marts and such.
But....I thought I had seen a lot in my life as far as country folk, hell my country family, until I came to Seattle and went out in the country. An hour or so away from the city of Seattle is a place that is pure deliverance. You drive in and hear the banjoes. The family tree is a circle. Their fingers look like a zig zag Z with about 10 joints. Their faces come down to a snout (think Rover) with two little beady ass eyes right off the bridge of their noses. Beautiful country, the most backasswards folk you will ever find. Cousin-Sister-Daughter-Mother, hell one person can have a full ass family reunion. |
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Yes, there are still hillbillies. But don't get your hillbilly education from the television. While these various media sources head into the "hollers" to interview the poor, backwards, dumb, barefoot inbreds who live in a run down trailer or cabin, they never show you the house across the road from them that costs $200,000, is lived in by people who earn $75,000 per year each, have $30,000 SUV's parked in the driveway and live and act just like people anywhere else do. They show you the minority, not the majority.
I remember Rory Kennedy (just like a fucking Kennedy too) came into E KY a few years ago and did a documentary about a particular family who lived in Saul, a small town (just a community, not really even a town) in Perry County, that were very hillbillish. This was probably by far the most hillbilly family they could track down in the entire area and so that's what they showed. I have been through Perry County many times and I can tell you that while there are hillbillies there, the people like they showed on that documentary are the exception rather than the rule. I live a bit west of these areas, but I'm "deep enough in country" to have a pretty good feel for it. I guess I am part hillbilly myself. I've tried to keep the good parts of being a hillbilly (self-reliance)while being considerably more refined. But with each generation, it seems the hillbilly culture becomes a bit more watered down. That bothers me a little, because I hate to see much of the culture die. Getting rid of inbreds and toothless people is good, but I hope most of the people growing up in these rural areas maintain the good parts of their culture. Though people make fun of country people, in a serious situation, I'd much rather rely on a country boy than a city slicker to watch my back. These folks know what tough times are, what hard work is like and they are tough people, mentally and physically. |
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Well said! |
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God, I don't know where you live but you sure need to get out more for the TV is rotting your brain. The social behaviour of the rednecks in the movie Deliverance was as far from reality as the day is from night. Although not quite as stupid, the closest the TV ever came to mountian folk was the Beverly Hillbillies in moral character. The movie Alvin York was prety close but still not on the money. Take out the entire plot of the movie Fire Down Below and it pretty much is an example of a rural Applachian commity these days but no where near the past. Before welfare all but destroyed a way of life, there were indeed mountian folk that lived in self sustaining communities that pretty much grew, raised, or built by hand everything they used. They were a proud folk that helped their neigbors and had Sunday church dinner on the ground. In 50 years of living in Appalachia, I have yet to know of any city boy being raped. Now if you want to talk about incest and gay rape in the inner-city, I could write you a book. Tj |
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Do you go armed on the trail? |
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