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Posted: 10/20/2004 7:13:01 PM EDT
long story short.

old lady at the gun counter is looking for a pistol for self protection.

her husband dies 2 weeks ago and her friends at church suggested she should get a "22 magnum snub nose."

i tell her she would be better off with a 38 special rossi\taurus that was under display at the store that she would have no problem handling it.

she was set on this:
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=24529118

even a customer standing behind me told her she would be better off with something with more punch that a 22lr.

she didn't listen.

i feel kinda bad that some old lady is going to have a better chance shooting her hip than an intruder with her gun of choice.

ever had your knowledge of firearms ignored?

Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:14:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:15:58 PM EDT
[#2]
yes, quite often by other liberal college classmates.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:18:04 PM EDT
[#3]
When she comes back into your place with a black eye, missing teeth and rape jizz seeping out of her asshole tell her how stupid she is.  She'll probably ask for a refund because the pistol she bought didn't stop a couple of thugs from shredding her pooter.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:18:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Frequently...  Why, you people couldn't tell a Ross MkII  1905 action from a Ross MkIII 1910.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:18:55 PM EDT
[#5]
I laughed out loud when I saw the pic of what she bought!
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:21:52 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm ignored every time some Anti wants to talk about guns.

My roommate has used my beating him over the head with facts to stump and contradict some of his college professors, though. He brings back some good stories.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:23:11 PM EDT
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When she comes back into your place with a black eye, missing teeth and rape jizz seeping out of her asshole tell her how stupid she is.  She'll probably ask for a refund because the pistol she bought didn't stop a couple of thugs from shredding her pooter.



Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:23:13 PM EDT
[#8]
Everyone knows what they are talking about... especially when they don't have a fucking clue.

I am the type of guy that doesn't open my mouth unless I REALLY know what the hell I am talking about.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:27:38 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Everyone knows what they are talking about... especially when they don't have a fucking clue.

I am the type of guy that doesn't open my mouth unless I REALLY know what the hell I am talking about.



do you feel a NAA 22lr is adequate for home protection?

i would have felt much better if she had taken the rossi\taurus 38 andbeen able to stop a intruder....rather than piss him off.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:28:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:28:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Well ...

If you're going to be dumb, ya gots to be tough.

When I worked gun shows, I usually got two questions ... One: "What's a good gun to get?" And two: "My friend said this model is a good gun, is it?"

Fair enough.

I said: "The one that fits your hand" and "Yep"

There's no secret for selling retail ... Just shut-up and sell them what they want.

It's their decision.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:35:59 PM EDT
[#12]


her husband dies 2 weeks ago and her friends at church suggested she should get a "22 magnum snub nose."
...even a customer standing behind me told her she would be better off with something with more punch that a 22lr.



so, was it a .22 magnum or a .22 lr?
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:37:30 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Everyone knows what they are talking about... especially when they don't have a fucking clue.

I am the type of guy that doesn't open my mouth unless I REALLY know what the hell I am talking about.



do you feel a NAA 22lr is adequate for home protection?

i would have felt much better if she had taken the rossi\taurus 38 andbeen able to stop a intruder....rather than piss him off.



No, I don't feel a 22lr is adequate for home protection unless you are being attacked by squirrels.

The 38 would have been a much better choice.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:39:44 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:


her husband dies 2 weeks ago and her friends at church suggested she should get a "22 magnum snub nose."
...even a customer standing behind me told her she would be better off with something with more punch that a 22lr.



so, was it a .22 magnum or a .22 lr?



it ended up being a 22lr that she went with.

not only going against the customer,cashier and my own opinion...but her friends at church too.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:40:06 PM EDT
[#15]
... I feel your pain dude

... Among most of you fellas & chickadees here on ARFCOM I feel like an absolute gun-knowledge inbicile

... However, occasionally in my daily socializing, an acquaintance will introduce me to someone like your "old lady at the gun counter" and ask me for my "expert" opinion.

... Sorry fuckers, for the most part, they usually have to find out on their own, they won't listen to my reasoning as to why a S&W 500 Magnum isn't their best investment for a first-time gun purchase.

... Oh well, "more guns, less crime" I suppose
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:40:17 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Everyone knows what they are talking about... especially when they don't have a fucking clue.

I am the type of guy that doesn't open my mouth unless I REALLY know what the hell I am talking about.



do you feel a NAA 22lr is adequate for home protection?

i would have felt much better if she had taken the rossi\taurus 38 andbeen able to stop a intruder....rather than piss him off.



No, I don't feel a 22lr is adequate for home protection unless you are being attacked by squirrels.

The 38 would have been a much better choice.



agreed. thats kinda where i was going.

maybe i misread your post.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:40:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:50:29 PM EDT
[#18]
when you work with a bunch of barney fife hillbilly hunter types, anything beyond 30-30 lore goes in one ear and out the other.

in other words "daily"
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 8:04:30 PM EDT
[#19]
You know if she sticks it into his eye or ear before she pulls the trigger........


I at least thought it would be one of those 8 shot 10.5oz 22lrs (317)  or the 10.6oz 7 shot 22magnum(351pd).
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 8:08:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2004 8:09:25 PM EDT
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The .22 is certainly better than a ball bat, a knife, or a sharp stick and 5 hits from one are certainly likely to put a damper on the bad guy's day, but that is certainly not the choice for a .22.  Something one could actually hold and aim would have been far better.



Heh, I would actually rather have a bat than a .22 for self defense.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 8:30:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Here at work, I am the go-to guy for gunstuff.  I can usually can answer it all, from pre-ww2 pocket pistol problems to winchester 1895 quirks.  Just as important, I say what I don't know, and what I think MIGHT be true.  

Critter blasters go to a couple other guys for advice.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 8:32:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Most times I just give up trying to help people, sometimes someone will listen though.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 8:38:46 PM EDT
[#24]
b/c i'm younger, just about every time i go to the range.  'old timers' always want to give me tips on shooting, converting my AR to full-auto, how .223 isn't accurate b/c it tumbles, etc... etc....
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 9:24:28 PM EDT
[#25]
All the damn time. . .
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 9:49:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2004 9:50:28 PM EDT
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b/c i'm younger, just about every time i go to the range.  'old timers' always want to give me tips on shooting, converting my AR to full-auto, how .223 isn't accurate b/c it tumbles, etc... etc....



I didnt know you go to the same range I do
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 12:45:20 AM EDT
[#28]
All the time...so is my car knowledge...
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 6:48:29 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
b/c i'm younger, just about every time i go to the range.  'old timers' always want to give me tips on shooting, converting my AR to full-auto, how .223 isn't accurate b/c it tumbles, etc... etc....

I wouldn't worry about an AR, all you need is a shotgun because the mere sound of the pump racking will cause such terror in bad guys that they will instantly surrender. Besides you can't miss with one.

wow! thanks! i'm putting up all my other guns for sell in the EE right now!!!!111  
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 6:59:09 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
b/c i'm younger, just about every time i go to the range.  'old timers' always want to give me tips on shooting, converting my AR to full-auto, how .223 isn't accurate b/c it tumbles, etc... etc....

+1

I love it when they assume I don't know anything. I had a gunstore owner sprint across his store the other day to tell me that the FAL mags I was buying were indeed for an FN FAL, and that I probably had something else. It amazes me that you can be seen with thousands of dollars worth of guns in that store one week, shave and come back the next to be treated like you never saw a real gun before.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 7:08:25 AM EDT
[#31]
All the time but then again I don't know very much about guns.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 7:31:37 AM EDT
[#32]
Here in the real world, among those who know me?  Rarely to never...



Here on Arfcom?  Every day...
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 7:49:58 AM EDT
[#33]
Usually its the idiotic anti's i encounter. They dont understand that "Bullet hose" and "Cop killer bullets" arnt real terms. Of course they also think that the AWB baned full-auto weapons. I remmember someone asking "Well arent you going to be happy being able to kill hundreds of people a second" I tryed to explain what the AWB did, but the flesh eating worms in her brain had disabled most of her reasonability.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 7:53:40 AM EDT
[#34]
As the designated gunsmith. I see this all the time. When some one has there mind set on something. Even if it is wrong. Its hard to get them to change.
For example I had a elderly lady that had came in and said she wanted a .45. This woman was maybe 5 foot tall. So I suggest something in a .38 cal. No she would not have anything smaller that a .45. So I take out a colt 1911 and go over the features. She had small hands and the gun did not fit too well. I had her try the slide. She could not pull it back. Then I got out a lady smith in .38. She had a much easer time using the smaller gun. I asked her why she wanted the 45. Her friends said she needed something in 45 because it a man stopper. Even though the gun did not fit or she could rack the slide. She still wanted it.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:07:04 AM EDT
[#35]
Most firearms sales are decided on the basis of "looks"... appearances.

Doc @ M&A
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:07:53 AM EDT
[#36]
what's a gun?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:45:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:30:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Sounds like your like my wife.  She is always giving unsolicited advise.
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