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Posted: 10/20/2004 12:02:08 PM EDT
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Between this and the point that he made about calling for voting fraud if he loses, even if their is no evidence of such, really show what kind of a cock-smoking shit-for-brains we are dealing with here. |
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Both sides are preparing for a legal battle, they've both got their legions of lawyers ready to slug it out if the margin of victory is smaller than the margin of error, and the margin of error is pretty big in a national election. Kerry's just doing what his lawyers are advising him to do, nothing unusual about that.
I truly hope Bush wins decisively enough that there won't be any doubt, it's not good for the country when half the population believes the CIC isn't legitimate. The only reason it's an issue at all is that both candidates are so weak the election is really about voting against the other guy on both sides. The vast middle in american politics doesn't like either of these guys. A strong republican would win the 45 states sgtar15 thinks Bush will. The fact that a scumbag like Kerry is even in the race shows how weak Bush's mandate really is. |
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our founding fathers are probably turning over in their graves
liberals have fucked over this great country. |
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+1. I hate to say it, but I believe that if the Democrats had put up someone with a more solid record and closer-to-center views, they would win handily. There are a LOT of people in this country who are not happy at all that we are in Iraq. |
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Algore did more damage to our great nation than Alqueda.
I mean that. |
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Liberals are the biggest whiners and crybabies I have ever seen.
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Don't joke. If the fight is as bad as this is predicting, this will almost certainly become violent. |
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I just ordered 2000 rounds of ammo for my various guns, and have been sure the bug out bags are ready .
Americans don't seem to realize it, but society is built on the trust of the social compact and constituion and laws. The Democrats plan (and are doing) everything in their power to deligitmize this. There was a democrat talking head on TV the other night saying that "if all the votes that are cast are counted, John Kerry will be the winnder." The converse of that, which suggests that ANY victory by Bush somehow was the result of disenfranchisement may play well to the democrats' base, but it is an entirely irresponsible and destablizing influence on the government. There is a very fine line between an operating government on the one hand and absolute destability on the other. The Democrats are setting us up for not just a constitutional crisis, but for full on anarchy. Add to the mix that Al Quaeda sees all this playing out in the papers and must certainly be motivated to try and pull a Spain like attack, and we certainly face the possibility of TSHTF and TEOTWAWKI. I'm going to be ready, waiting and watching. |
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Don't bust my stones I can make jokes...are you trying to supress my freedoms? In the meantime...get those bayo lugs installed |
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Gore injected a horrible poison, the worst since slavery, into the American polity. We'll come out on the right side, like we did back then, but this is profoundly serious if the Democrats go through with this insanity.
Every morning when I am walking outside, alone, I wonder what is going to happen when the Democrats decide they want the White House so bad they try to override the election through the courts and through the media, and attempt to label the president as illegitimate even though he won. I hate thinking about it, but I also know they will do it. |
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your omega man avatar could be right on the money....load up boys
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That is why the polls are SOOOOO important to the democrats.
As long as their crocked pollsters say that Kerry will win, they can point to those when he gets his ass handed to him and blame "the vast right wing conspiracy". Never mind that it is about 2 or 3 pollsters and it would take 1000s of people to fix an election. Democrats will not take this loss well at all. I think it is going to be hilarious. |
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I wish I could be as sanguine. It is going to be ugly. |
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+1 on this getting violent. Somewhere, there will at least be rioting.
We may have seen the last of peaceful elections. |
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This will be the ugliest election ever. I am not looking forward to it.
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Raven,
You're right, but lets not forget the price we paid, in lives and politically, for the eventual end of slavery in America. Slavery was an ugly thing, but the union was wrong about nearly everything else. This is another of those rare times in American history when extreme circumstances lead to extreme legislation, and the loss of liberty and the abandonment of core principle is applauded by the populace. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, and unfortunately neither of the current candidates show any more respect for the constitution than they. |
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Very well put. I am not a "the end is near" kind of person, but I am genuinely afraid for what is going to happen two weeks from now. More than I fear a Kerry presidency, I REALLY fear the aftermath of yet another melee over presidential election results... a battle that will undoubtedly be MUCH more bloody than 2000. If Kerry wins, so be it. But if Bush wins, and Kerry's thugs succeed in wrestling the presidency away with legal and P.R. maneuvering, severe and irreparable harm will have been done to our country. Even if he doesn't succeed, the integrity of the results will be soiled by his allegations. --Mike |
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I hope Kerry keeps bragging about how he's going to declare victory even if there is no winner, how he's going to claim voter fraud even in places where there is no evidence, how he's going to challenge the election process even in places where it's not a close election, and how he already has 10,000 lawyers waiting to fight out every aspect of the election.
Does he really think telling everyone this ahead of time is going to help him? It gives Bush a chance to get a defense in place. It shows the American people that Kerry will do everything and anything to win, even if he has no evidence supporting him. All it does is makes him look crooked and shady while at the same time it seems to be energizing the Republican base to kick his ass by such a large margin that all the whinning in the world won't do any good. I don't know about 45 states but Bush is going to stomp on Kerry this election. If you look at the non-biased polls they average to Bush with a +5% lead. On top of that a lot of people who are polled say they would vote for Kerry but they are really just anti-Bush people and don't care about Kerry. If they aren't motivated for Kerry are they really going to show up on election day? Then add to that the gay marriage constitutional amendments on 11 states ballots. In the past this type of amendment has been known to bring out the conservative base in huge numbers. Kerry is going to get stomped! |
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I agree with both. In the states with large urban areas, there will be a flood of so-called 'provisional ballots'. Think Pennsylvania with Philadelphia, Ohio with Cleveland and Toledo, Michigan with Detroit, Missouri with St. Louis. The inner cities will have enough corruption to keep the election results within the margin of error. The electoral college will be close enough that challenges in only two or three states will enable the Dems to claim an invalid election. I think it's very likely for a 1992 Rodney King Verdict situation to exist. Mainstream media will love to play up the racial angle. All at a time when we're at war with people who have already attacked us on our own soil. |
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So get out and outvote the cockholster.
What a shitstain this asshole is. SG |
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They're democrats...who needs a bayonet?
FIX KNITTING NEEDLES!! |
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It doesn't matter if it's a landslide by GWB. sKerry will cause one hell of an uproar.
Count on this tactic to be standard on Presidential Elections from now on. |
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That's what I'm afraid of too. That fucking shithead Al Gore did major damage last time around with his fucking whining. I'm hoping Bush will win by so much there's no way in hell the Dem's can dispute it. If not, it'll be another fiasco like we had in 2000.
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I welcome it... meanwhile spread this story to every person you know and forward it to every local paper... We might get some nice press out of this, combined with their playbook on how to steal an election and voter registration fraud we can paint these people as out to win at any cost.
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It's inevitable, given the insanely litigious nature of our society, that lawyer's will henceforth decide our elections for us.
Welcome to a third world country. |
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I don't know about that but I DO KNOW that Clinton kidnapped the Lindbergh baby ! |
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Amen, brother. They are probably spinning like dynamos..... |
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Yall guys in Texas ready? Yall already handled one JFK.
Joking. |
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It doesen't matter whathappensat the polls. The DUh membership has already declared that anything but a Kerry win is the result of a STOLEN election.
John Kerry could kill and eat a 2 year old on live television, and these morons would blame it on President Bush, and the vast right wing conspiracy. Lock and load, I fear that the worst is yet to come. |
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Does someone have a link, preferably "objective" source, about Kerry's comments on voter fraud?
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Don't fix bayonets, get them from afar....you don't want their blood on you. Never know what you could catch.
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I would almost prefer a Kerry victory over having the courts decide the election.
Al Gore set a very dangerous precedent. Nixon could have protested the 1960 contest because of obvious voter fraud but he thought the republic was more important. Al Gore & John Kerry care more about power than democracy. |
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The time for a drastic change is approaching very rapidly, I think.
I don't want to see it, but I think it will happen as a result of the actions brought on by those who will undoubtedly seek to cast doubt on the results of a valid and orderly election. I would not want to be ANY form of lawyer for years to come...or a liberal democrat, either. I see that both groups are putting themselves into situations where they may become the targets of a wrathful nation hellbent on getting its dignity back from those who would litigate their way to an unearned victory. While those idiots are wasting their time counting ballots that have already been properly counted by the proper officials, I'll be in the garage sorting and counting out the contents of four full five gallon buckets of assorted ammo I just picked up for free. I sure hope I don't need it to defend myself against a democrat who sees all the pro-Bush and anti-Kerry signs and stickers on my property and cars! CJ |
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Well................After GW wins we could heard Kerry and his friends into camps and put stars on their shoulders and tatoo numbers on their forearms. Damn, somebody already tried that one.
It had a ring to it though. |
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We are starting to see the fruits the demonrats have been planting in our country for the last 20+ years. How to steal/ corrupt an election. Heck, it is ILLEGAL to ask for photo ID to vote in 17 states. Not going to be pretty from now on. |
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Yeah, they are called brainless liberals. |
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Teddy just couldn't let that happen now could he? |
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They know us well. We respect the Republic. They don't have that impediment. Unfortunately, that gives them an advantage in a non decisive election. Hopefully, it doesn't bite our country in the butt too much........ |
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just imagine what kerry would do not gonna be an issue though, it's going to be hard for kerry to 'challenge' when President Bush takes the popular vote and the electoral vote with at least 300 votes. the fact that the dems are even talking about this is great news for President Bush. |
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Bullshit. Fuck them. This is not 'Nam, there are rules. Let them get away with it here for the sake of keeping civil order for 4 years, they will not stop. They had better not try it. |
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+1 Kerry has become an intolerable option. I just hope the voters see through his maniacal lust for power. |
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+1, and I'm in Colorado, but on November 2nd I'll be in Florida. Talk about double battleground... |
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