Not because I like him or that Bush has totally bungled Iraq every step of the way, but because “GRIDLOCK IS OUR FRIEND” people. The enemy IS the “Republican/Democrat Bi-Dictatorship” that IS our government. One thing is for sure, the common man will always suffer under this arrangement. Unfortunately, we are not ready for a revolution that will free us from our “paid-in-full” government yet, so the only power we have is to tie things up so nothing gets done.
           That means using some creative thinking in manipulating who wins elections instead of using emotional first reactions. Example: “Bush is more pro-gun, let’s vote for him!” This IS a true statement, BUT, consider this. Some posts on this site seem to suggest that if Kerry wins, he has the power to actually “command” new gun laws, This is ridiculous and those of you who understand politics know that.
There seems to be little realization of this concept around. Republicans WILL still control the House and Senate with most likely even bigger margins than today, thus making the next President virtually powerless when it comes to Federal gun law propositions as well as anything else HE wants.
Don’t forget also that The Republican Party is drifting perilously closer to the religious right, who have an agenda of government intrusion into the lives of Americans that make most Democrats look like Libertarians. Examples of Republican supported laws that intrude into the freedoms we think we have, are:
1-Right to put any substance in your own body that you choose. (i.e drugs are illegal). I’m personally anti-drug but if I wanted to smoke pot, I don’t want any DEA man bustin’my door down.
2-Right to kill yourself if you want to: It’s illegal people!! How ridiculous is that?
3-Right to have sex with whoever you want. It’s still illegal to have oral sex in Lousiana, WITH YOUR OWN WIFE!!! This law was recently upheld by the Republican state court.
4-Right to marry who you want. Personally I have a female wife, but if I wanted to marry some midget alien cannibal man from venus, I don’t want the Government buttin’ in my business. Who cares who marries whom!!
More examples are prostitution laws, anti-gambling laws, anti-porn laws, helmet laws, seatbelt laws and the list goes on and on, of Republican supported laws that take basic rights of American citizens and jams the governments unwanted nose into our business. ALL government intrusion is WRONG when it is based on an agenda of legislating morality and personal behavior. Republicans could repeal these laws if they chose to, but they are terrified of losing religious right votes.
If the Congress was all Dem, then I’d say vote for Bush. But since it’s all Rep, we need a neutralizer to that power. Too much power for one Party is BAD for you and me. Gridlock ensures us nothing gets done and that’s GOOD for us. We don’t need more stupid laws.
I would think that especially people on this site could see the evils of government intrusion. If Republicans get too much power and they let the religious right nuts take over their party (which IS happening), you’ll see all types of  “bans” being imposed. Sure they’ll start with the “sex stuff” but then they’ll move on to written materials (including evil gun books) and eventually when it’s politically advantageous, they’ll come for the evil guns too.
If you fall into this trap of Dems vs. Reps, then they have got you! When you have two enemies, what’s the best strategic move? Yes, it’s a good move to side with one and kill the other, BUT, it’s an even better move to make both of them believe you are their friends and then watch them kill each other. Gridlock does this. Protects US from both parties. Be smart-Not emotional. Look beneath the lies that both will spew in order to trap you.

Oh boy

Quoted: What is it about this thread that has me thinking TROLL?

Post Number :: 5?

Gridlock is our friend, yes.  The problem being the supreme court, do you really want to see Hillary Clinton, or a like mind on the big bench.  HELL NO.  Vote W.

Go back to the DU

Want to know why your a ? You have 5 posts and say your voting for Kerry. IBTB (In Before the Ban)

Looks like a 'copy&paste' DU slam to me...

Welcome to the Forum!

There ya go, one troll for every virgin that you're promised!

Quoted: What is it about this thread that has me thinking TROLL?

Every word in the first post.

Quoted:           Not because I like him or that Bush has totally bungled Iraq every step of the way, but because “GRIDLOCK IS OUR FRIEND” people.

DU is your friend.  Go back to your friend and leave us the hell alone, troll.

Hey, I'll even join with a IBTL and a big fat

Well, there are enough people here to cancel your vote, your families' vote, your friends vote, and GW would still win.

Thanks for playing.

Certainly looks like a cut & paste to me too.

Hey wart IM me ,I have a picture of kerry sucking off a wooden indian or is it teresa heinz?

I need verification because they both look alike to me, so a du fag might help.

I also can channel john edwards dead son, he wants the world to know what Kerry did to him while he was baby sitting him. Maybe you could pass it on to du.

They've actually come up with something worse than a libertarian.

It's unfortunate that people are not required to take a test before being allowed to vote.

Why doesnt somebody actually come up with SOMETHING CREATIVE to argue the POINT? Or is that too much to ask.

Petty insults are really childish. Let's see some intelligent replies. or is that too much to ask.

Please go fuck yourself.

Is that creative enough?

Quoted: Let's see some intelligent replies. or is that too much to ask.

Well, ya gotta start a thread with an intelligent post first.

Quoted: Why doesnt somebody actually come up with SOMETHING CREATIVE to argue the POINT? Or is that too much to ask. Petty insults are really childish. Let's see some intelligent replies. or is that too much to ask.

YEA, real funny....I was in high school once too. ha ha

Come on! I know there must be at least one intellegent person here!
Where is he?

Go the fuck home

Quoted:           Blah, blah blah... I'm a troll-bitch.

Quoted: Come on! I know there must be at least one intellegent person here! Where is he?

Well, he ain't YOU.  You can't even SPELL "intelligent".

What's with you new-fangled trolls?
You pretend to be thinkers, yet can't even put together coherent sentences.
Fuck off, troll.

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Keep believing in only the bad of this war and go back to DU.  Try looking for the good this war has done for the people of iraq.  

We as a country have sent many more of our men and women to their graves to expand liberty and freedom.  Our losses in Iraq while sad or only a drop in the bucket compaired to wars past.

Wart:

Now please go fuck yourself again.

frdmftr1 is baaaaaaack.......
"Psychopoliticians of the world unite- all you have to lose is your .....sanity...."

Quoted:           Not because I like him or that Bush has totally bungled Iraq every step of the way, but because “GRIDLOCK IS OUR FRIEND” people. The enemy IS the “Republican/Democrat Bi-Dictatorship” that IS our government. One thing is for sure, the common man will always suffer under this arrangement. Unfortunately, we are not ready for a revolution that will free us from our “paid-in-full” government yet, so the only power we have is to tie things up so nothing gets done.            That means using some creative thinking in manipulating who wins elections instead of using emotional first reactions. Example: “Bush is more pro-gun, let’s vote for him!” This IS a true statement, BUT, consider this. Some posts on this site seem to suggest that if Kerry wins, he has the power to actually “command” new gun laws, This is ridiculous and those of you who understand politics know that. There seems to be little realization of this concept around. Republicans WILL still control the House and Senate with most likely even bigger margins than today, thus making the next President virtually powerless when it comes to Federal gun law propositions as well as anything else HE wants. Don’t forget also that The Republican Party is drifting perilously closer to the religious right, who have an agenda of government intrusion into the lives of Americans that make most Democrats look like Libertarians. Examples of Republican supported laws that intrude into the freedoms we think we have, are: 1-Right to put any substance in your own body that you choose. (i.e drugs are illegal). I’m personally anti-drug but if I wanted to smoke pot, I don’t want any DEA man bustin’my door down. 2-Right to kill yourself if you want to: It’s illegal people!! How ridiculous is that? 3-Right to have sex with whoever you want. It’s still illegal to have oral sex in Lousiana, WITH YOUR OWN WIFE!!! This law was recently upheld by the Republican state court. 4-Right to marry who you want. Personally I have a female wife, but if I wanted to marry some midget alien cannibal man from venus, I don’t want the Government buttin’ in my business. Who cares who marries whom!! More examples are prostitution laws, anti-gambling laws, anti-porn laws, helmet laws, seatbelt laws and the list goes on and on, of Republican supported laws that take basic rights of American citizens and jams the governments unwanted nose into our business. ALL government intrusion is WRONG when it is based on an agenda of legislating morality and personal behavior. Republicans could repeal these laws if they chose to, but they are terrified of losing religious right votes. If the Congress was all Dem, then I’d say vote for Bush. But since it’s all Rep, we need a neutralizer to that power. Too much power for one Party is BAD for you and me. Gridlock ensures us nothing gets done and that’s GOOD for us. We don’t need more stupid laws. I would think that especially people on this site could see the evils of government intrusion. If Republicans get too much power and they let the religious right nuts take over their party (which IS happening), you’ll see all types of  “bans” being imposed. Sure they’ll start with the “sex stuff” but then they’ll move on to written materials (including evil gun books) and eventually when it’s politically advantageous, they’ll come for the evil guns too. If you fall into this trap of Dems vs. Reps, then they have got you! When you have two enemies, what’s the best strategic move? Yes, it’s a good move to side with one and kill the other, BUT, it’s an even better move to make both of them believe you are their friends and then watch them kill each other. Gridlock does this. Protects US from both parties. Be smart-Not emotional. Look beneath the lies that both will spew in order to trap you.

-1

wart78m.

YOU....are....a...f-ing moron. The end.

There are a bunch of smart people here...

You'll never find them. Remember it takes a smart guy to identify another one.

Game over. Sorry....

I'll give you a B for trying though. Guess you like fighting windmills.

Quoted:           Not because I like him or that Bush has totally bungled Iraq every step of the way, but because “GRIDLOCK IS OUR FRIEND” people. The enemy IS the “Republican/Democrat Bi-Dictatorship” that IS our government. One thing is for sure, the common man will always suffer under this arrangement. Unfortunately, we are not ready for a revolution that will free us from our “paid-in-full” government yet, so the only power we have is to tie things up so nothing gets done.            That means using some creative thinking in manipulating who wins elections instead of using emotional first reactions. Example: “Bush is more pro-gun, let’s vote for him!” This IS a true statement, BUT, consider this. Some posts on this site seem to suggest that if Kerry wins, he has the power to actually “command” new gun laws, This is ridiculous and those of you who understand politics know that. There seems to be little realization of this concept around. Republicans WILL still control the House and Senate with most likely even bigger margins than today, thus making the next President virtually powerless when it comes to Federal gun law propositions as well as anything else HE wants. Don’t forget also that The Republican Party is drifting perilously closer to the religious right, who have an agenda of government intrusion into the lives of Americans that make most Democrats look like Libertarians. Examples of Republican supported laws that intrude into the freedoms we think we have, are: 1-Right to put any substance in your own body that you choose. (i.e drugs are illegal). I’m personally anti-drug but if I wanted to smoke pot, I don’t want any DEA man bustin’my door down. 2-Right to kill yourself if you want to: It’s illegal people!! How ridiculous is that? 3-Right to have sex with whoever you want. It’s still illegal to have oral sex in Lousiana, WITH YOUR OWN WIFE!!! This law was recently upheld by the Republican state court. 4-Right to marry who you want. Personally I have a female wife, but if I wanted to marry some midget alien cannibal man from venus, I don’t want the Government buttin’ in my business. Who cares who marries whom!! More examples are prostitution laws, anti-gambling laws, anti-porn laws, helmet laws, seatbelt laws and the list goes on and on, of Republican supported laws that take basic rights of American citizens and jams the governments unwanted nose into our business. ALL government intrusion is WRONG when it is based on an agenda of legislating morality and personal behavior. Republicans could repeal these laws if they chose to, but they are terrified of losing religious right votes. If the Congress was all Dem, then I’d say vote for Bush. But since it’s all Rep, we need a neutralizer to that power. Too much power for one Party is BAD for you and me. Gridlock ensures us nothing gets done and that’s GOOD for us. We don’t need more stupid laws. I would think that especially people on this site could see the evils of government intrusion. If Republicans get too much power and they let the religious right nuts take over their party (which IS happening), you’ll see all types of  “bans” being imposed. Sure they’ll start with the “sex stuff” but then they’ll move on to written materials (including evil gun books) and eventually when it’s politically advantageous, they’ll come for the evil guns too. If you fall into this trap of Dems vs. Reps, then they have got you! When you have two enemies, what’s the best strategic move? Yes, it’s a good move to side with one and kill the other, BUT, it’s an even better move to make both of them believe you are their friends and then watch them kill each other. Gridlock does this. Protects US from both parties. Be smart-Not emotional. Look beneath the lies that both will spew in order to trap you.

That doesn't even dignify a response...

You're full of shit,

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

Get lost, LOSER.        

Quoted: Quoted: Come on! I know there must be at least one intellegent person here! Where is he? Well, he ain't YOU.  You can't even SPELL "intelligent". What's with you new-fangled trolls? You pretend to be thinkers, yet can't even put together coherent sentences. Fuck off troll.

If you can't use paragraph breaks ............. I aint reading it .... Troll or not

He may be a troll, or maybe not. I confess I have thought long and hard on whether Bush for 4 more or gridlock would be better off for the country.

Many of my personal politics are at odds with the current platform of the Republican Party, but I've still decided to vote for Bush if only because Kerry is a lying traitorous bastard.

I hope that whatever concerns I have about future legislation pushed through by a Republican controlled legislative and executive branch can be countered by the Supreme court, if only because lately, conservative judges are less likely to twist the constitution in knots to try to justify certain political views.

So, gridlock is our friend?  Because you want less stupid laws?  How about thinking that if Kerry gets in office, he has the power to put some Supreme Court Justices in position that will allow violations of CONSTITUTIONAL rights, not just your right to get high.  

You mention Iraq, and grudgingly admit that Bush did not bungle it.  HEY!  Kerry will bungle it.  Not might, but he will.  He, like all Dem presidents since JFK will have a bad relationship with the Pentagon (the military does not like Kerry), will make military policy based on what he thinks might please the sheeple, and will not aggressively pursue terrorists, or better yet, let the military use its resources to effectively and efficiently pursue terrorists.

Kerry will kowtow to the UN.  If you think that is ok, ok, but we definitely disagree there.  UN is deliberately trying to erode the independence of nations, in form moving toward a world government, Americans subject to laws made by other nations.  Bad.

I can go on, but electing Kerry just so Republicans won't outlaw gay marriage is a pretty expensive proposition.

BTW...  !  You are dumb.

I knew someone could at least try. Proved all you other stooges wrong.

You really believe all that tripe about Bush? You know the Dems say the exact opposite. So who's right?
I know who's wrong==BOTH OF YOU

Bush has accomplished  little and Kerry will accomplish little.

Quoted: I knew someone could at least try. Proved all you other stooges wrong. You really believe all that tripe about Bush? You know the Dems say the exact opposite. So who's right? I know who's wrong==BOTH OF YOU Bush has accomplished  little and Kerry will accomplish little.

No, you're wrong, little troll.  Bush has accomplished more POSITIVE than any other presidentn in 20 years.  And Kerry would accomplish more NEGATIVE than any other president since Carter.  Too bad you're too juvenile and ignorant of history to realize it.

Quoted: I knew someone could at least try. Proved all you other stooges wrong. You really believe all that tripe about Bush? You know the Dems say the exact opposite. So who's right? I know who's wrong==BOTH OF YOU Bush has accomplished  little and Kerry will accomplish little.

Quoted: I knew someone could at least try. Proved all you other stooges wrong. You really believe all that tripe about Bush? You know the Dems say the exact opposite. So who's right? I know who's wrong==BOTH OF YOU Bush has accomplished  little and Kerry will accomplish little.

You are so disconnected from reality you prolly think your on arfcom trolling, go back to bed it's just a dream.

Quoted: He may be a troll, or maybe not. I confess I have thought long and hard on whether Bush for 4 more or gridlock would be better off for the country. Many of my personal politics are at odds with the current platform of the Republican Party, but I've still decided to vote for Bush if only because Kerry is a lying traitorous bastard. I hope that whatever concerns I have about future legislation pushed through by a Republican controlled legislative and executive branch can be countered by the Supreme court, if only because lately, conservative judges are less likely to twist the constitution in knots to try to justify certain political views.

More ignorance about how our system works.

Kerry can't get a supreme court justice thru with the 55-57 republicans who will be there to stop him. DUH!!

So, why don't you just crawl in a cave, declare it an independent nation, and STFU.  You really are not very well informed.  Demanding intelligent and detailed answers really demands you state a detailed and intelligent argument.