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Posted: 10/10/2004 10:21:14 PM EDT
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Kenyan Nobel peace laureate claims AIDS virus deliberately created Sat Oct 9, 5:52 PM ET Health - AFP NAIROBI (AFP) - Kenyan ecologist Wangari Maathai, the first African woman to win the Nobel Peace Prize, reiterated her claim that the AIDS (news - web sites) virus was a deliberately created biological agent. "Some say that AIDS came from the monkeys, and I doubt that because we have been living with monkeys (since) time immemorial, others say it was a curse from God, but I say it cannot be that. "Us black people are dying more than any other people in this planet," Maathai told a press conference in Nairobi a day after winning the prize for her work in human rights and reversing deforestation across Africa. "It's true that there are some people who create agents to wipe out other people. If there were no such people, we could have not have invaded Iraq (news - web sites)," she said. "We invaded Iraq because we believed that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had made, or was in the process of creating agents of biological warfare," said Maathai, also Kenyan deputy environment and natural resources minister, who has gained a reputation as a fearless speaker. "In fact it (the HIV virus (news - web sites)) is created by a scientist for biological warfare," she added. "Why has there been so much secrecy about AIDS? When you ask where did the virus come from, it raises a lot of flags. That makes me suspicious," Maathai added. Africa accounts for 25 million out of the estimated 38 million people across the world infected with HIV (news - web sites), and the vast majority of infected Africans are women, according to UNAIDS (news - web sites) estimates. The United States on Friday congratulated Maathai on winning the Nobel Peace Prize, but tempered its praise over her claims about AIDS. "She said (HIV/AIDS) was invented as a bioweapon in some laboratory in the West," a senior State Department official said. "We don't agree with that." The official pointed to a report of those comments published in August in Kenya's daily Standard newspaper, in which Maathai was quoted as saying that HIV/AIDS was created by scientists for the purpose of mass extermination. "We know that the developed nations are using biological warfare, leaving guns to the primitive people," the Standard quoted Maathai as telling a public workshop in the central Kenyan town of Nyeri on August 30. "They have the resources to do this." "AIDS (is) not a curse from God to Africans or the black people," she said, according to the paper's account of the meeting published a day later. "It is a tool to control them designed by some evil-minded scientists, but we may not know who particularly did." "Why is the rest of the world just watching, doing nothing while Africans are being wiped out? The rest of the world has abandoned us," Maathai said in this Saturday's issue of Standard. Maathai, 64, was honored by the Nobel committee for standing at the "front of the fight to promote ecologically viable social, economic and cultural development in Kenya and in Africa." In 1977, she founded the Green Belt Movement, the largest tree-planting project in Africa aimed at promoting biodiversity and at the same time creating jobs and giving women a stronger identity in society. Voted Time Magazine's "Hero of the Planet" in 1998 and a household name in her country, Maathai has vowed to use the cash award that comes with the award to promote her environment campaigns. |
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Isn't it nice that they're giving Nobel prizes to morons now so they won't feel left out?
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Another nut-bag speaks out, she should hook up with Micheal Moore.
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Yeah, but you have only been fucking them since recently. |
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Every member of the DUh will have one soon then. I love how she says it was made to target africans. Aren't the two main ways to get AIDS are to screw around and use drugs? That sounds kind of color blind to me, all you have to do is have a little morality in you. Or maybe SHE'S just racist. |
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Dumbass, its has nothing to do with sex with monkeys. They eat the fucking monkeys, not fuck them. |
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I think the term "dumb fucking cunt" wouldn't be wasted on this bitch.
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I expect some people "get both" |
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This has been a conspiracy theory for a long time.
So, to play along .... and most likely piss some people off ..................... It wouldn't surprise me, the world is over populated and growing expoentialy. Human nature seems to try and balence itself one way or another. Be it... a single nut job that makes a disease and releases it for whatever reason, or an army who acknowledges it is outnumbered and befriends it's enemies before it gives them blankets ridden with a disease to reduce their numbers without having to endure casuilties that will surly come from warfare. Or... for example, if you were allowed into a group of people who's job it was to try and slow the growth of the world population for the benefit of all the other humans.. it might be something that crosses the table as a possible solution. But then again... it might have just been two monkies fucking. |
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Nobel prize winner and she can't even use English correctly. |
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As wrong as that is... i'm laughin. - BG |
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I guess literacy isn't a prerequisite for the Nobel committee. |
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And this is why Africa is so seriously fucked up and doomed… this is one of the best educated people talking…and still spouting the same old crap, 'Our problems are nothing to do with us, it's all the White Mans fault'.
Monkeys carry a form of AIDS, always have, Africans now like to eat what they call 'Bush Meat'… aka monkeys… and AIDS is endemic. Europeans and the rest of the World generally do not eat Monkeys… and AIDS is not endemic… it ain't rocket science! ANdy |
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We have much to learn from Mother Africa. She probably believes (like most savages in Africa) that raping babies will cure AIDS too. Dumbfucking savages. |
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"In fact it (the HIV virus (news - web sites)) is created by a scientist for biological warfare," she added.
I don't think its that far fetched. But as a biological warfare agent its a total failure. Takes to damn long to take affect. As far as coming from monkeys ya "ok". I would be belive man made it than it coming from monkeys. I have a friend that was big into AIDS research before he retired. For all the things he told me about it this is what stuck out. He said that if you look at lets say cancer there are even natureal ways to either help or completly rid of cancer, drug compines hate it but does work for some. But with everything we have tried even on the nartual side should have some effect either way but with AIDS it didn't even faze it. I asked him at point if he thought we made it which he said he really couldn't say. Take eboli "sp" now that sucker would have been great for BW, kill everyone off in days. He didn't know but said it acts in a way that would make one question if it was man made. wolf |
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What the fuck is this shit about "We invaded Iraq"? Anyone know of any Kenyans fighting for the coaliton?
CW |
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A band of happy Africans fetch the meat for dinner… Gorilla in this case… And this story will REALLY make your skin creep… we have the same problem of imports of raw monkeys and other meat into Europe for the Black African 'Bushmeat' trade… coming to an African Diner near you… Monkey Brains and AIDS… "An unwanted import: Wild meat By CHARLES SEABROOK The Atlanta Journal-Constitution U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Recent shipment of cane rat meat that came into Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport Inspectors at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson airport, suspicious of a smoky odor wafting from the suitcase of a passenger arriving from Cameroon in Central Africa, peered into her bag. They were shocked by what they saw -- an entire smoked monkey. The meat, the woman said, was intended for a traditional wedding reception of some African immigrants. "It was obviously a monkey, but we couldn't identify the species," said Patricia Rogers, a federal wildlife agent at the airport. In August, two large monkey heads seized from a passenger arriving in Atlanta from Senegal apparently were intended for consumption by a family of immigrants, authorities said. Airport inspectors from New York to Hawaii are reporting similar findings as a demand for "bush meat," or wild animal flesh, mostly from Africa, increases in the United States. "We're probably seeing only the tip of the iceberg," said Mike Elkins, deputy wildlife agent in charge at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's regional office in Atlanta. That has worried public health officials. The wild meat, they say, may harbor deadly microbes that could cause epidemics in humans, from Ebola to AIDS. "It certainly poses public health risks," said Dr. Paul Argwin, a global health specialist with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A report in the Journal of the American Medical Association last year warned that many monkeys captured in Cameroon harbored a plethora of viruses that are close cousins of the AIDS virus. The microbes pose a major health risk to people who eat the animals, the report warned. Importation of nonhuman primates is prohibited under an international treaty." http://southeast.fws.gov/law/News/BushMeat.htm Andy |
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Damned. My list of "people I'd like to accidently run into with a weed whip", just keeps getting bigger.
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AIDS is a shitty BW agent if it really was one...
Why make a biolotical weapon that could be defeated by simple self control... AIDS is 100% preventable -> don't screw everything that moves, don't shoot drugs, don't use contaminated fluid-products... |
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Not to mention that a superstition in Africa is that if a man contracts AIDS he can cure himself by having sex with a virgin. Consequently, men will have sex with ANY virgin in an attempt to cure themselves, thereby infecting the other person. Oh, by the way... this virgin thing means any virgin. Including children and babies. Is it any wonder these people are dying by the truckload? Is it any wonder no one cares? |
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The great thing about her position is that it completely absolves anyone of the consequences of their behavior. I mean, if it is a bio weapon, then there's no real reason to stop having unprotected sex with as many people as I like, because I'll get it anyway, or something.
-Troy |
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He's Just One More Douche Bag Crying About His People's Inability to Keep Their Dicks In Their Pants and to Not Wage Genocidal War Every Other Year
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Well, yes, they do eat the monkeys. And, they also fuck them. Only when they can capture them, though. The monkeys don't take to such things readily. Such things being the eating or the fucking. It's the truth. Africa is a shithole, and not just because of the monkey-fucking. Even if there weren't any disease there, they would have no difficulty dying or killing each other off by other means. Virii that dissolve your internal organs or make your brain swell inside your skull, parasites that can eat through your damn boots (no shit, you have to wrap your fucking feet in duct tape before you put on your boots, to keep them out), giant biting flies that leave large scars all over you, snakes that fucking spit venom 20 feet, rivers, choked with bodies, where the water is literally a dark red from the blood, because a neighboring tribe got a burr up it's ass and went on a machete rampage, rape and murder common when people are robbed for 2 dollar items, or for no reason at all. Don't stop your car at traffic signs, even in the most "civilized" parts of Africa, for risk of being pulled from your car and set on fire while still alive. Get something sturdy, with a big engine, and with four-wheel drive capability, not only because the roads are shit (which they are), but because you have to be able to bulldoze your way through mounds of burning trash and shit that the locals will place or throw in the road to force you to stop. Ignorance, immorality, and a complete lack of civilization. Fuck them. They can keep that shithole. Let them wallow in their own festering pit of death and murder. Every other nation should cut off any aid to them and let the place sort itself out, because now it's subsidizing all that which was listed above. Also, the Nobel "Peace" Prize lost any value it might have had when they awarded it to that fucking terrorist about ten years ago. |
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What terrorist would that be? I don't know my "Nobel Laureatte Fucktards"...
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That would be none other than Yasser Arafat, 1994. Awarding that asshole a Nobel Prize put a stain on all of Western civilization. He should have been awarded a Hellfire up his ass. |
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What about a digerreedoo in his wombat? |
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+1 That sorry ass excuse for a human needs to die. |
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AIDS would only extremely rarely, statistically, be passed by consumption of the animals. Being a blood borne pathogen it takes contact, blood to blood or semen to blood, to transmit. This can happen during sex, especially anal sex (face it, it aint designed to hold up to that) and only rarely during oral sex. It would be silly to think that a weapons lab would create a pathogen that could only be transmitted by such direct contact. All weapons grade bioweapons that I am aware of are either extremely fine powders (IE anthax) or are extremely contagious (smallpox). Just wait until China reaveals the extent of the problems in that country. Face it, if they come up with 100 million infected it will dwarf the African problem. Oh, and there are some sick people out there. Having somebody nail a monkey just for kicks would be just the thing that would excite some of them. |
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Is anything their fault? Of course not. It's all the fault of the west and whitey. [sarcasm mode off] This is the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever heard. I believe that the disease was traced back to Zaire when it was first identified. The cause was then listed as consumption of infected monkey brains or meat. I think this is correct, but I may be mistaken. To try and blame this horrible epidemic on an individual or government is the height of absudity. Obviously, an average I.Q. isn't a requirement for a Nobel prize. |
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And Jimmy Carter...don't forget "Jimmah" This is also about trying to get more handouts from the west. Kinda like the "Corporation" story... "You are an African Corporation who has two cows...you kill and eat both cows and then sit down and wait for someone to give you free handouts!" |
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Even if it was, it's the Africans that screwed the monkeys and then screwed their wives in the ass spreading the disease.
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"Why is the rest of the world just watching, doing nothing while Africans are being wiped out? The rest of the world has abandoned us," Maathai said in this Saturday's issue of Standard.
Maybe we should stop all of our support so she can see hoe much we really give them. |
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works for me. |
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Oh really Maathai? And what exactly has Africa done to HELP THEMSELVES? "[T]o meet a severe and urgent crisis abroad, tonight I propose the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief - a work of mercy beyond all current international efforts to help the people of Africa...I ask the Congress to commit $15 billion over the next five years, including nearly $10 billion in new money, to turn the tide against AIDS in the most afflicted nations of Africa and the Caribbean." - President George W. Bush January 28, 2003 President Bush announced in the State of the Union address the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, a five-year, $15 billion initiative to turn the tide in combating the global HIV/AIDS pandemic. This commitment of resources will help the most afflicted countries in Africa and the Caribbean wage and win the war against HIV/AIDS, extending and saving lives. Specifically, the initiative is intended to: Prevent 7 million new infections (60 percent of the projected new infections in the target countries): The initiative will involve large-scale prevention efforts, including voluntary testing and counseling. The availability of treatment will enhance prevention efforts by providing an incentive for individuals to be tested. Treat 2 million HIV-infected people: Capitalizing on recent advances in ARV treatment, the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief will be the first global effort to provide advanced antiretroviral treatment on a large scale in the poorest, most afflicted countries. Care for 10 million HIV-infected individuals and AIDS orphans: The initiative will provide a range of care, including support for AIDS orphans. The $15 billion in funding for this initiative virtually triples the U.S. commitment to international AIDS assistance. Funding will begin with $2 billion in FY04, and ramp up thereafter. The $15 billion includes $1 billion for the Global Fund to Fight HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria, conditioned on the Fund showing results. |
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Can anyone tell me ONE African country that has managed to better itself after 'throwing off' colonial rule… just one that now has better law and order, better healthcare, better schooling, better infrastructure, less hunger, less poverty…better anything?
Andy |
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Don't forget that other terrorist: Nelson Mandela. |
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[crickets]chirp...chirp...chirp.....[/crickets] |
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The true tragedy is not what Wangari Maathai has to say about AIDS, it is that the Nobel PEACE Prize was awarded to someone whose major accomplishment in life is PLANTING TREES! Someone please explain how this advances the cause of world peace?!?! If it did, the CEO of Weyerhouser and the CEO of Georgia Pacific would just rotate winning the prize every other year.
The Nobel Committee has turned into the biggest joke besides the U.N. |
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Keep in mind that there's lots of blood released during the slaughtering and butchering of an animal. Infected Blood + Open Wounds = much higher likelihood of infection than other routes. |
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