GOP "Shock and Awe" campaign coming!

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Posted: 10/7/2004 7:38:32 AM EDT

THE "FLIP-FLOP" CHARGE WAS A DIVERSION?

National Review

The guys at CrushKerry.com interview a GOP campaign operative - I think I know who they're talking to, and if I'm right, their description of his title and duties is accurate - and get a sense of an emerging strategy shift on the Bush campaign:

We recently expressed our frustration over the “flip-flop” narrative with a veteran GOP campaign operative in daily contact with, and in some cases working side by side with, high-level "Bush/Cheney 04" campaign officials, and asked them why, given all the evidence that this message had long since played itself out, did the campaign continue to hammer away on it, ala Bush v. Clinton, ‘92? When were Republicans going to pummel this clown with his own record ala Reagan v. Mondale, ’84 and Bush v. Dukakis, ’88?

“October,” the operative, who asked to remain nameless, told us. “We couldn’t stay quiet all year. And if we’d been hitting him [Kerry] on his liberal record all year, it would have grown stale and lost its punch, like the flip-flop stuff has. The plan was always to barrage him with his record and brand him a Massachusetts and Washington liberal during the crucial month of October.”

So the “flip-flop” stuff was just entertaining background noise?

“That’s exactly right,” we were told. “Look, we know we can beat John Kerry on his liberal voting record. But that decision is made in finality by most voters during the closing days of an election. We needed to give people something to talk about for the past year while Kerry has tried to slash the President down with his vicious, negative attacks.”

But now the campaign is on? We’re going to see and hear a more offensive posture from the President and his campaign?

“Absolutely. I think you could call it ‘Shock and Awe.’ You’ll know it when you see it,” our source said.

We can’t wait. And we urge the President to give us more of what he gave us yesterday.

Of course, I can't help but wonder why this new focus on Kerry's liberalism didn't start with the first debate. Or maybe it did start in the first debate, and I just missed it among all the "workin' hard... hard work" comments.

If this plan works - Kerry is defined as the epitome of Massachusetts liberalism, then it will be a much more effective and satisfying victory for conservatives if Kerry is rejected by the voters because of his liberalism instead of his indecisiveness or inability to stick to one position for a period of time.

On the other, other hand... if Kerry wins, then it is an unmitigated victory for liberalism.

Posted: 10/7/2004 7:59:42 AM EDT

[#1]

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Of course, I can't help but wonder why this new focus on Kerry's liberalism didn't start with the first debate. .

Its called a "set up."

Put out a credible if uninspired message. Get the opponent overconfident. Create low expecxtations in the audience.

Then WHAMMO!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:04:50 AM EDT

[#2]

You don't think Chenet started this on Tuesday night? Go re-read the transcript of the debate... read Bush's remarks from yesterday.

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:09:36 AM EDT

[#3]

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You don't think Chenet started this on Tuesday night? Go re-read the transcript of the debate... read Bush's remarks from yesterday.

I do think that it has begun! That is why I made the Post, I wanted to see what y'all thought of it.

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:13:53 AM EDT

[#4]

That's pretty good.

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:16:06 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Quoted:

Of course, I can't help but wonder why this new focus on Kerry's liberalism didn't start with the first debate. .

Its called a "set up."

Put out a credible if uninspired message. Get the opponent overconfident. Create low expecxtations in the audience.

Then WHAMMO!!!!!!!!!!

Believe it when you see it.

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:21:15 AM EDT

[#6]

Love the cartoon! Hits em right where it's supposed to!!!

W 04

archer2

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:22:20 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Quoted:
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Of course, I can't help but wonder why this new focus on Kerry's liberalism didn't start with the first debate. .

Its called a "set up."

Put out a credible if uninspired message. Get the opponent overconfident. Create low expecxtations in the audience.

Then WHAMMO!!!!!!!!!!
Believe it when you see it.

Agreed, Bush flubbed the debate... he was tired, his delivery was bad even though he message was sound. It wasn't a set-up, but it was a wake up call, mark my words. Cheney was firing for range, yesterday Bush began firing for effect.

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:23:35 AM EDT

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Believe it when you see it.

I'm being optimistic.

But like Hiram Ranger said, Cheney nudged th ball rolling, which is all he wanted to do - and let "da Boss" play hammertime on Kerry.

Political Rule #1 - NEVER upstage da Boss.

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:26:06 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

John Kerry. The answer to the question you are afraid to ask.

This tagline is confusing..... a little too nuanced for me. What does it mean?

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:26:18 AM EDT

[#10]

The new 'PFA Voter Fund' ads around here are going after Kerry's record on defense...

The latest GW Bush ad running shows a lady driving in her car, listening to talk radio, and the host is talking about Kerry's voting record on taxes & the economy...

The 'defense' one still mixes 'voting record' with 'flip-flop', hammering Kerry on his 'One Consitant Postition' line...

But the 'tax' one is 100% record-based...

It's started allright...

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:31:37 AM EDT

[#11]

Let's hope....

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:33:56 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
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John Kerry. The answer to the question you are afraid to ask.

This tagline is confusing..... a little too nuanced for me. What does it mean?

I'll take Liberals for a thousand Alex...

"The worst possible person ( traitor, liar, POS) the Dems put up to run for election in 04"

"Who is John Effin' sKerry"?

Ding ding ding I have a winnah!

Posted: 10/7/2004 8:50:17 AM EDT

[#13]

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Cheney was firing for range, yesterday Bush began firing for effect.

Yeah, have you guys seen or heard yesterday's speech? HOME-RUN!!!

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=281558

Posted: 10/7/2004 10:58:35 AM EDT

[#14]

A great line Bush used yeaterday during a campaign stop was:

"My opponent is one of the only presidential candidates that has "I'll raise your taxes if elected" in his platform."

CMOS

Posted: 10/7/2004 11:24:09 AM EDT

[#15]

I guess I'm missing something. How will condemning Kerry's liberalism help Bush, when ~ 50% of the voting population embraces Kerry-style liberalism?

Posted: 10/7/2004 11:31:21 AM EDT

[#16]

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I guess I'm missing something. How will condemning Kerry's liberalism help Bush, when ~ 50% of the voting population embraces Kerry-style liberalism?

Because 50% doesn't. About 35% does. If you look at Kerry's internals he has a lot of folks that are tepid supporters at best. While we may not get them to vote for us, if we create a level of disgust for Kerry... and they already feel that way toward Bush... they may not vote at all. A non-vote is almost as good as a switched vote.

Kerry is trying to run as middle of the road, not as a liberal... I'll cut taxes, in fact I'll cut them MORE than Bush! Uh huh... I do not want to take away your right to own firearms! Uh huh... I don't believe government should intrude in Doctor/patient relationships! Uh huh... Kerry has made a point of not talking about his voting record.... why? Because it is so left-wing he knows it will turn voters off. If it was a record he was proud of, or could defend, we would hear about it constantly instead of not at all.

Posted: 10/7/2004 11:32:09 AM EDT

[#17]

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I guess I'm missing something. How will condemning Kerry's liberalism help Bush, when ~ 50% of the voting population embraces Kerry-style liberalism?

What you're starting to see though, is that they DON'T embrase kerry style liberalism. People are beginning (and I stress beginning) to realize that all socialist programs promised since WWII are becoming a HUGE drain on the taxpayer, and that the money has to come from somewhere.

Posted: 10/7/2004 11:35:46 AM EDT

[#18]

"Watson...the game's afoot!"...Sherlock Holmes by A. Conan Doyle

It is about time the gloves came off. Kerry is an awful candidate who is simply being propped up by the liberal media.

"Cry havoc...and let slip the dogs of war!"...Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1; The Bard

Posted: 10/7/2004 11:45:49 AM EDT

[#19]

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A non-vote is almost as good as a switched vote.

Okay, that makes sense. Thanks.

(The same thing could be accomplished by pre-screening voters for mental illness, but somehow I don't think the Dems would stand for their largest voting block being disenfranchised.

)

Posted: 10/7/2004 11:57:09 AM EDT

[#20]

Great MP3 sattire on Kerry's IRAQ & Saddam positions... a must listen to thsoe that haven't heard it yet.

Right click on link to save onto HD.
950kprc.com/JohnKerryCommercial.mp3

Posted: 10/7/2004 12:05:26 PM EDT

[#21]

I remember hearing stuff like this on the radio. They started blasting him on being the most liberal Senator in congress. All I can say is...

Go GOP!

Posted: 10/7/2004 12:35:40 PM EDT

[#22]

It's late to begin a campaign on Kerry's record. The first debate would have been the time to begin it, but the President let it go, and he failed to demonstrate his command of the issues.

Posted: 10/7/2004 12:37:22 PM EDT

[#23]

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I guess I'm missing something. How will condemning Kerry's liberalism help Bush, when ~ 50% of the voting population embraces Kerry-style liberalism?

Exactly.

The liberal brush ain't gonna paint this time. No one cares. Bush has to justify why we are in Iraq, that's the issue. He can't just sit back and look indignant, he has to articulate it.

Also, I think you give the GOP too much credit. They ain't smart enough to come up with some master strategy, or subtrifuge to throw the dems off.

Posted: 10/7/2004 12:38:34 PM EDT

[#24]

Actually Bush showed a command of the issues in Iraq... far better than Kerry... he just didn;t ARTICULATE it for shit!

Most commentators say Kerry "won" the debate but conceed Bush had a better command of the issue... just not of the debate...

Posted: 10/7/2004 12:46:35 PM EDT

[#25]

And the problem is that Bush is preaching to the choir when he should be trying to convert the undecided. That means he has to answer the question of why we are in Iraq instead of avoiding it. Iraq is a key issue to his leadership and credibility. He has to be able to explain why we are there. So far, neither he or Cheney is doing it.

Posted: 10/7/2004 1:01:47 PM EDT

[#26]

No monkey, either they are not saying what YOU want to hear, or you haven't been actually listening. I sat there with rapt attention and heard Bush articulate yesterday why we are there.

www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3787

After September the 11th, America had to assess every potential threat in a new light. Our nation awakened to an even greater danger, the prospect that terrorists who killed thousands with hijacked airplanes would kill many more with weapons of mass murder. We had to take a hard look at everyplace where terrorists might get those weapons. And one regime stood
out: the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein.

We knew the dictator had a history of using weapons of mass destruction, a long record of aggression and hatred for America. He was listed by Republican and Democrat administrations as a state sponsor of terrorists. There was a risk -- a real risk -- that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons, or materials, or information to terrorist networks. In the world after September the 11th, that was a risk we could not afford to take.

After 12 years of United Nations Security Council resolutions, we gave him a final chance to come clean and listen to the demands of the free world. When he chose defiance and war, our coalition enforced the just demands of the world. And the world is better off with Saddam Hussein sitting in a prison cell.

My opponent's endless back-and-forth on Iraq is part of a larger misunderstanding. In the war on terror, Senator Kerry is proposing policies and doctrines that would weaken America and make the world more dangerous. His -- Senator Kerry approaches the world with a September the 10th mind-set. He declared in his convention speech that "any attack will be met with a swift and certain response." That was the mind-set of the 1990s, while al Qaeda was planning the attacks on America. After September the 11th, our object in the war on terror is not to wait for the next attack and respond, but to prevent attacks by taking the fight to the enemy.

In our debate, Senator Kerry said that removing Saddam Hussein was a mistake because the threat was not imminent. The problem with this approach is obvious: if America waits until a threat is at our doorstep, it might be too late to save lives. Tyrants and terrorists will not give us polite notice before they launch an attack on our country.

I refuse to stand by while dangers gather. In the world after September the 11th, the path to safety is the path of action. And I will continue to defend the people of the United States of America.

Those are opening salvos and I hope are addressing the issues you want to see addressed.

Posted: 10/7/2004 1:03:15 PM EDT

[#27]

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I guess I'm missing something. How will condemning Kerry's liberalism help Bush, when ~ 50% of the voting population embraces Kerry-style liberalism?

Because 50% doesn't. About 35% does. .

Exactly.

When Liberals are effectively exposed as liberals, they DO NOT win US elections.

Why do you think kerry is paiting himself as a fiscal conservative, and a neo-hawk on the Iraq war???

Liberals don't win US elections.

Posted: 10/7/2004 1:05:15 PM EDT

[#28]

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yesterday Bush began firing for effect.

Yeah, have you guys seen or heard yesterday's speech?

No.

And neither did 65,000,000 other people. But they DID see GWBush stammer, whine and wilt in the last debate.

Posted: 10/7/2004 1:10:29 PM EDT

[#29]

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And neither did 65,000,000 other people. But they DID see GWBush stammer, whine and wilt in the last debate.

Patience, grasshopper.

IF Bush does it again tomorrow, THEN feel free to degrade into full scale panic.

Posted: 10/7/2004 1:11:02 PM EDT

[#30]

Mac, you've made your fucking point on that... now answer this... what could Bush have possibly done since then and until tomorrow other than what he has done... listening, anything, anything? No... last week is over and fucking done with and your bellyaching, which deserved, solves nothing... got it? NOTHING! So you can either buck up and move on, or you can dwell on it and not seize the opportunities at hand. I have to tell you, your attitude is anything but positive. Shit happens. We take the cards we have in our hand now and we play them. We accept the fact we lost one battle, but the war isn't over.

Unless you've got some brilliant idea other than do better on Friday... If you do, we'd all love to hear it.

We conceed, Thursday last week was a set back. Since then we clobbered Edwards and Bush showed poise and confidence yesterday. We are also going into a debate format that Bush is more comfortable with and sells better with... the personable Town Hall.

Tell you what, why don;t you just go grab a bible and give Kerry the oath of office now, because you sure aren't showing us any fight, just a lot of bellyaching. This isn't over. He fucked up. Move onward and upward and win this thing in the next 26 days.

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