Joint raid : US soldiers of the 1st Infantry Division take away an Iraqi detainee after a joint raid with the Iraqi police commandos in a neighborhood of the Iraqi rebel city of Samarra. (AFP/Jewel Samad)



US soldiers patrol a neighborhood in the Iraqi rebel city of Samarra. The former US governor of Iraq (news - web sites) said the United States "never" had enough ground troops there to establish firm control, contradicting assertions by President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and top Pentagon (news - web sites) officials that the US military had what it needed to win the war.(AFP/Jewel Samad)



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SAMARRA, IRAQ: A picture released by US ARMY 05 October 2004 shows Soldiers from Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 14th Infantry Regiment (Light), 25th Infantry Division out of Schofield Barracks, Hawaii, conducting search and attack operations in the norther Iraqi city of Samarra. U.S. and Iraqi forces launched Operation Baton Rouge, a major offensive against the anti-Iraqi forces inside the city. AFP PHOTO/US ARMY (Photo credit should read /AFP/Getty Images)



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SAMARRA, IRAQ: An Iraqi woman and children watch US soldiers of the 1st Infantry Division patrolling their neighborhood in the Iraqi rebel city of Samarra, some 125 kilometers north of Baghdad, early 05 October 2004. The US military campaign in Samarra is being hailed as a model for taking back rebel enclaves in Iraq, but the hard work of winning over a hostile or ambivalent population is just beginning. AFP PHOTO/Jewel SAMAD (Photo credit should read JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images)



An Iraqi working with a New York National Guard platoon interrogated a civilian in Samarra on Monday. He shouted and beat the man with a baton after a booklet with a picture of Osama bin Laden was found.  Ashley Gilbertson/The New York Times




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GHAZNI, Afghanistan: Supporters of Afghan President Hamid Karzai are kept under control by an armed guard, part of Karzai heavy security personel, during an electoral rally in Ghazni, some 100 kilometres (63 miles) south of Kabul, 05 October 2004. Karzai, whose first attempt to campaign beyond the capital was aborted after a rocket attack on his helicopter last month, received an enthusiastic welcome from a crowd of about 10,000 people, ahead of the country's first ever democratic presidential election scheduled on 09 October. AFP PHOTO/SHAH MARAI (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/Getty Images)



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GHAZNI, Afghanistan: Supporters of Afghan President Hamid Karzai are kept under control by an armed guards, part of Karzai heavy security personel, during an electoral rally in Ghazni, some 100 kilometres (63 miles) south of Kabul, 05 October 2004. Karzai, whose first attempt to campaign beyond the capital was aborted after a rocket attack on his helicopter last month, received an enthusiastic welcome from a crowd of about 10,000 people, ahead of the country's first ever democratic presidential election scheduled on 09 October. AFP PHOTO/SHAH MARAI (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/Getty Images)




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GHAZNI, Afghanistan: An armed sniper (back), part of the heavy security personel escorting Afghan President Hamid Karzai, keeps watch as Karzai supporters attend a Karzai electoral rally in Ghazni, some 100 kilometres (63 miles) south of Kabul, 05 October 2004. Karzai, whose first attempt to campaign beyond the capital was aborted after a rocket attack on his helicopter last month, received an enthusiastic welcome from a crowd of about 10,000 people, ahead of the country's first ever democratic presidential election scheduled on 09 October. AFP PHOTO/SHAH MARAI (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/Getty Images)



An Afghan soldier tries to beat back a crowd of enthusiastic supporters of Afghan President Hamid Karzai during a campaign stop in Ghazni, Afghanistan (news - web sites), 110 kilometers outside Kabul Tuesday Oct. 5, 2004. Afghans will go to the polls on Oct. 9 in the country's first ever direct elections. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)



Afghan President Hamid Karzai, top center, looks out over the crowd during a campaign stop in Ghazni, Afghanistan (news - web sites), 110 kilometers (69 miles) outside Kabul Tuesday Oct. 5, 2004. Afghans will go to the polls on Oct. 9 in the country's first ever direct elections. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)



A security guard holds his assault rifle as supporters of Afghan President Hamid Karzai cheer during his second successful campaign stop outside the safety of the capital in Ghazni, some 120 km (75 miles) south of Kabul, October 5, 2004. Karzai made a speech telling a crowd of some 10,000 people that historic elections this weekend will deliver them from a quarter-century of war. REUTERS/Ahmad Masood




A security guard escorts Afghan President Hamid Karzai during his second successful campaign stop outside the safety of the capital in Ghazni, some 120 km (75 miles) south of Kabul, October 5, 2004. Karzai made a speech telling a crowd of 10,000 people that historic elections this weekend will deliver them from a quarter-century of war. REUTERS/Ahmad Masood




Afghan President Hamid Karzai (3rd-L) speaks during his second successful campaign stop outside the safety of the capital in Ghazni, some 120 km (75 miles) south of Kabul on October 5, 2004. Karzai made a speech telling a crowd of 10,000 people that historic elections this weekend will deliver them from a quarter-century of war. REUTERS/Ahmad Masood




Afghan President Hamid Karzai (C) arrives at an electoral rally surounded by security in Ghazni. A fleet of helicopters escorted by fighter jets flew Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s President Hamid Karzai to his first campaign rally outside Kabul as the war-shattered country counted down to elections.(AFP/Shah Marai)



Afghan presidential candidate Yunus Qanuni is escorted by security in Kabul's stadium during a rally October 5, 2004. Qanuni, one of 17 candidates challenging Afghan President Hamid Karzai for the presidency, held a rally for some 4,000 people in the capital's stadium. REUTERS/Desmond Boylan



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GHAZNI, Afghanistan: Afghan National Army soldiers deploy while securing the city where Afghan President Hamid Karzai was due to hold an electoral rally in Ghazni, some 100 kilometres (63 miles) south of Kabul, 05 October 2004. Karzai, whose first attempt to campaign beyond the capital was aborted after a rocket attack on his helicopter last month, received an enthusiastic welcome from a crowd of about 10,000 people, ahead of the country's first ever democratic presidential election scheduled on 09 October. AFP PHOTO/SHAH MARAI (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/Getty Images)



An Israeli soldier with his face covered, looks through the sight of his assault rifle, during an operation in the West Bank village of Qabatiya, Tuesday, Oct. 5, 2004. Meanwhile, in Gaza, the current Israeli army operation entered its sixth day. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)



Israeli troops walk along a street during an operation in the West Bank village of Qabatiya, Tuesday, Oct. 5, 2004. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)



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JABALIYA, GAZA STRIP - OCTOBER 5: An Al Aqsa Brigade militant watches for approaching Israeli forces from behind a sand bag defensive positon inside the Jabaliya refugee camp October 5, 2004 in the Gaza Strip. Palestinian militants continue to put up resistance against Israeli forces, who are in their sixth day of an open ended operation to create a buffer zone to stop the militants from firing Qassam rockets at Israeli border towns and settlements along the Gaza border. (Photo by Scott Nelson/Getty Images)



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JABALIYA, GAZA STRIP - OCTOBER 5: Palestinian Al Aqsa brigade militants take cover behind sand bag defensive positons from nearby Israeli forces within the Jabaliya refugee camp October 5, 2004 in the Gaza Strip. Palestinian militants continue to put up resistance against Israeli forces, who are in their sixth day of an open ended operation to create a buffer zone to stop the militants from firing Qassam rockets at Israeli border towns and settlements along the Gaza border. (Photo by Scott Nelson/Getty Images)



Indonesian soldiers parade during a ceremony to mark the 59th anniversary of the military's founding, at Halim air force base in Jakarta, October 5, 2004. REUTERS/Darren Whiteside



Indonesian soldiers line up during the 59th anniversary celebration of the Indonesian military in Neusu Field, Tuesday, Oct. 5, 2004 in Banda Aceh, the capital of the troubled Aceh province, Indonesia. Indonesia said Monday that security in war-torn Aceh province has improved because nearly 7,000 rebels have been killed or captured and most rebel strongholds seized in the past 16 months. (AP Photo/Binsar Bakkara)

Quoted: getting the embarrassment over with early today, eh?

Fuck you, in the kindest, gentlest, no-name calling way.

Quoted:

Everyone does realize that these fine warriors pictured here are probably some of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet, right?  I mean to be given the job of protecting an "uninsurable", like Karzai.....

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: getting the embarrassment over with early today, eh? ????? 6.) Repeatedly attacking or insulting a person in an effort to elicit a negative response. You have a right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. it's a running joke between us, dutchman.

Thus why I qualified my "fuck you"

LOL.

Quoted: Everyone does realize that these fine warriors pictured here are probably some of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet, right?  I mean to be given the job of protecting an "uninsurable", like Karzai.....

And you are absolutely right Shivan.  They've come close once.  The fact of the matter is he's HIGHLY likely to be killed at anytime, and odds are good whoevers standing near him wont either.

dang dutch! always poking their fingers in someone else's dyke!!!

great pics, lumpy!

BTT for the afternoon.