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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:18:27 AM EDT
 Kerry 238 Bush 296 No change in numbers... |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:30:08 AM EDT
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FINALLY! Arkansas is shoring up
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:39:05 AM EDT
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yeah but did you notice the senate prediction...
Projected Senate: 51 Democrats, 48 Republicans, 1 independent |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:44:01 AM EDT
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Interesting... because Rasmussen has Thune leading Daschle in that Senate race... I've yet to hear anybody trumpeting that the democrats are likely to take over the Senate in the end... if Kerry does pull it out and win the election, maybe there will be some coat tails and its possible. But when 55% of those polled in the latest Newsweek poll (which oversampled Democrats) believe Bush will win... I'm guessing our guy will and we will maybe make slight gains in the Senate.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:55:39 AM EDT
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I came home to a nice 2 sided unfolded Glossy flyer stuffed in my door.
Front side photo of Daschle - "An Experienced Leader For South Dakota" Back - talks of water projects, ethanol legislation (farm subsidies), low cost prescription for seniors, getting more funding for road construction on every major highway in SD. Then: "We have never had this much power in Washington and it would be a mistake to throw it away." -- Paid for "A lot of people Supporting Tom Daschle Anybody want it? For contrast, the Daschle to Thune / "Dump Daschle" bumper stickers are about 2:3 for Thune, yard signs are about half and half. No Kerry stickers on cars, lots of Bush bumper/window stickers, I think I saw 2 lawns with Kerry signs, most all lawns that express a preference seem to be interested in the Senate race only (obviously, since SD will be Bush). |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:56:09 AM EDT
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No one is talking that piece. I find that hard to believe, since of the 33 races this year, I believe 20 of them have democratic incumbants. Most "in-play" senate races belong to democrats. There are 7 or so democratic seats losable this year to only 3 or 4 republican. I think we will improve our lead. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:00:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:01:59 AM EDT
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But what is the difference. A democratic majority is a democratic majority. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:03:31 AM EDT
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imo, the GOP will hold the Senate 
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:04:13 AM EDT
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Back to the Presidential race for a minute, this bodes very poorly for Kerry. He clearly had the advantage coming out of the debate, but it has not tanslated into meaningful votes.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:07:49 AM EDT
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After the demonization that Bush received for the past 4 years, people just wanted to check he didn't have horns on his head. They found out he is the same guy he was 4 years ago, just now with some experience and firm convictions. I really can't see Kerry winning this election. October could be a long month for JFK. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:10:58 AM EDT
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Remember, the VP is also President of the Senate. Think 93 AWB...didn't dear old Al stick it to us? |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:14:50 AM EDT
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New Rasmussen poll just came out for Sunday. 2/3 of the poll are after the debate:
Day GWB JFK Today 49.0 45.4 Oct 2 48.6 45.6 Oct 1 48.7 45.3 Sept 30 48.5 46.1 Sept 29 49.1 45.3 Sept 28 47.9 46.3 |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:15:08 AM EDT
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<whistles contently>
Sgtar15 PS 45 states |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:15:32 AM EDT
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How accurate is this map? Is it based on national polls?
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:29:16 AM EDT
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To me, the debates mean very little. It's the spin news channels put on it that makes the difference. After all the debate lasted 90 minutes, but the after action debate goes on for days. The winner is the group that can most convincingly say, this is what my incumbent meant, and get the most air time out of it. The sheeple want, and need, the media to stroke them and convince them. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:39:19 AM EDT
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Newsweek poll out today has Kerry up by three, 49-46.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:43:59 AM EDT
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No, national polls are irrelevant. It is comprised of the latest state polling data available. Because it uses multiple sources, states can seem to be in flux. You need to look at who did the poll for each state... move your cursor over the state at www.elecoral-vote.com and it will tell you when the poll was done, by whom, and voter breakdown. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:53:02 AM EDT
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And it has been widely discredited due to shoddy methodology. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=280392 |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:57:31 AM EDT
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Hey Hiram, click on the final map and look at Utah, its trending Kerry and they project a tie on election day!
 Bwahahahahahah! |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:44:59 AM EDT
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Yeah, that's the problem with the projection stuff the guy running electoral vote has. If he can't get enough polls, you get weird results. But he does the best he can with what he's given. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:49:35 AM EDT
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Yup, that's the limit on working off of one poll... you get one outlier and it skews everything. If you check is final projection map you'll see Washington dark red, but if you click on the state it shows a solid Kerry win... This is why I tell people don;t just take things at face value, look at the underlying data.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:19:05 AM EDT
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Hiramrange I sure hope you're right. I can't bear the thought of Kerry winning. Having Thune knock Dashole out of the Senate would be expecially sweet.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:31:37 AM EDT
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The news channels can spin all they want but the real story is how the Internet writers SHREAD Kerrys statments... and also shred how the news channels lie for him. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:43:57 AM EDT
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Damn Minnesota, was looking to be promising last week, now its turning blue again
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:47:14 AM EDT
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I asked this last week. How is the electoral map figured? How are the statistics gathered to
put the numbers on the map? I always thought the electorial votes were in response to how many electoral votes individual states had, and those votes were applied when a candidate was picked for winning a  state.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 2:13:39 PM EDT
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go here www.electoral-vote.com/ and hold your mouse over a state, it shows the most recent poll done in that state, which is how they come up with that map |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:11:10 PM EDT
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Relax guys look over this site a bit, it is biased, you guys know about the media doing this crap why not suspect this website too?
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