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Posted: 10/3/2004 6:34:48 AM EDT
As a do-it-all rifle, for plinking, SHTF, target shooting and home defense rifle, which set up do you like the most.

20" flat-top
20" A2 sights
16" flat-top
16" A2 sights
M-4 style?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:36:12 AM EDT
[#1]
20" flat-top for me.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:36:45 AM EDT
[#2]
16" flat top hbar.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:37:47 AM EDT
[#3]
20" flat top with carrying handle attached.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:44:40 AM EDT
[#4]
m4, then midlength, then dissipator...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:45:41 AM EDT
[#5]
16" Government Profile Flat-top with BUIS
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:46:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Needs a Poll


16" A2 and 20" SP1
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:47:43 AM EDT
[#7]
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:49:40 AM EDT
[#8]
If I could only have one, it would be a 20" flat top.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:50:43 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
16" Government Profile Flat-top with BUIS



+1

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:50:52 AM EDT
[#10]
20" A4 with a A2 carry handle
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:51:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Home Defense? 14.5" M4gery with Eotech.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:57:36 AM EDT
[#12]
16" A2 with optic mounted of the FF rail.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:59:23 AM EDT
[#13]
I've got a 20" AR15A2 withAimpoint CompM… but I'm getting it converted to a XM177/Commando Spec 12" barrel, and telestock.

Want it stumpy and compact like this one……



Andy
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:00:16 AM EDT
[#14]
A-2 Dissipator.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:04:26 AM EDT
[#15]
M4...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:17:56 AM EDT
[#16]
My AR originally came with a 20" A2 HBAR upper then I bought a flattop receiver which was going to get a 14 1/2" but ended up with a 20" gov. profile. Both are 1/7 twist.

The plan now is to get another lower,collapsible stock,and then either swap out the gov barrel for a M4 type or just ante up for another complete upper!  I've seen a CAR type stock with a 20" barrel but it looks like it would be front heavy.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:22:48 AM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:26:02 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
As a do-it-all rifle, for plinking, SHTF, target shooting and home defense rifle, which set up do you like the most.

20" flat-top
20" A2 sights
16" flat-top
16" A2 sights
M-4 style?



For personal use? 20" A2. I *cannot* justify spending what Trijicon wants for an ACOG on a scope, and I'm not a fan of red-dots for a rifle that allready has good sights...

What do I think is the ideal 'issue' military weapon? 20" A4 with ACOG

The M4 is great for tankers & other vehicle crews, SF, and the sort of rear-area folks who would have gotten a M1 carbine in WWII, but the full-length rifle is a better front-line weapon... There's no reason for a short barrel & collapsable stock anywhere else, and BOTH are detrimental to accuracy potential...

There is a REASON we have A2 sights, they are vastly improved over the old A1 variety when it comes to hitting targets at longer ranges...

Oh, and on a flattop, I'll take a carry handle over fancy flip-up 'BUIS' any day... Need that windage & elevation adjustment, a/o the crude adjustments on most 'flip-up' sights... Although I think they do make a standard A2 sight with W/E mounted on a rail-attatching 'pedastal' for BUIS use... That would work too...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:29:12 AM EDT
[#19]
I've got both the 20" A2 and 16" A2 so that's what I currently prefer.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:29:13 AM EDT
[#20]
SP-1 20"
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:29:22 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
If I could only have one, it would be a 20" flat top.



+1
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:33:53 AM EDT
[#22]
20" A2
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:36:32 AM EDT
[#23]
16" A1
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:39:00 AM EDT
[#24]
20" Standard A2 rifle. longer range, solid reliable sights.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:35:15 AM EDT
[#25]
M4 w/ACOG TAO1NSN
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:36:09 AM EDT
[#26]
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:40:20 AM EDT
[#27]
20" flattop with carry handle...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:41:30 AM EDT
[#28]
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.  

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.  

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.  

Colt_SBR  
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:49:53 AM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:51:39 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.  

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.  

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.  

Colt_SBR  



That's the setup I had. I traded the HBAR for a Bushy light weight bbl.  I liked the HBAR, but I wanted "evil" features.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:52:20 AM EDT
[#31]
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:53:08 AM EDT
[#32]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:59:00 AM EDT
[#33]
16 or 20" a2
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:01:54 AM EDT
[#34]
If I could only have one, and no accesories, tele-stock on a 20" with and A2 upper.
Only one with accessories, make the above a flat-top and add an ACOG a rail system and a sure fire.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:41:31 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.  

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.  

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.  

Colt_SBR  



That's the setup I had. I traded the HBAR for a Bushy light weight bbl.  I liked the HBAR, but I wanted "evil" features.

 

I've got a Post-ban Bushmaster 16" HBAR, A1 upper with an A1 stock.  

I'm looking around for a collapsible stock to make it right.  Been looking around for a "name brand" CAR stock without alot of luck.  Alot of cheep stocks out there but I can't put a cheep stock on a fine carbine.  I'm also going to have the barrel threaded for a three prong FH.  

Then it’ll be finished.  I really don’t need a bayonet lug (although I would like one).  

Colt_SBR  

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:43:52 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
16" Government Profile Flat-top with BUIS



+1

img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/MolonLabe/M4gery3.jpg




+2

But, I also have an EO-Tech on mine...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:49:51 AM EDT
[#37]
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:50:45 AM EDT
[#38]

Which AR platform to you prefer?


A4, 14 - 16" in the 7.62 x 51 variety.  
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:54:43 AM EDT
[#39]
M4

I have no use for longer range shots from a puny round like the 5.56.  If I want/need longer range punch I'll use a rifle that fires a real bullet.  The 5.56 is good for up close IMHO.  At distance I'll take a battle rifle like the FAL or M14.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:27:34 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.  

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.  

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.  

Colt_SBR  



That's the setup I had. I traded the HBAR for a Bushy light weight bbl.  I liked the HBAR, but I wanted "evil" features.

 

I've got a Post-ban Bushmaster 16" HBAR, A1 upper with an A1 stock.  

I'm looking around for a collapsible stock to make it right.  Been looking around for a "name brand" CAR stock without alot of luck.  Alot of cheep stocks out there but I can't put a cheep stock on a fine carbine.  I'm also going to have the barrel threaded for a three prong FH.  

Then it’ll be finished.  I really don’t need a bayonet lug (although I would like one).  

Colt_SBR  



I got a 4 pos. RRA stock from Adco for my XM15E2S, that I'm pleased with.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:34:22 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
20" flat-top for me.



thats what i have
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:38:44 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
20" flattop with carry handle & collapsible stock. Looks a little different, but it is the shiznit!


I have to agree. Put a VLTOR on my 20" after the ban just for the time being, got to say I like it a lot.

Canadians knew what they were doing...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:43:00 PM EDT
[#43]
I'd have to say my 20" A2.
Course, It has a match trigger, sights, and a free float tube, and weights a ton, but It is reliable and extremely accurate.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:43:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:47:23 PM EDT
[#45]
There is no such thing as a do it all.  Get 2 of each.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:34:23 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
There is no such thing as a do it all.  Get 2 of each.



Actually I disagree.

In my opinion the ideal jack-of-all-trades AR would be as follows

18" govt profile barrel w/ M4 feedramps
Gem Tech bi-lock flash suppressor
mid-length gas system
Larue 12" free float tube
ACOG TA31
Larue ACOG QD mount
Troy rail mount front sight
ARMS #40L rear sight
Magpul 93A stock
Magpul Modular pistol grip
Tango Down vert foregrip
PRI gasbuster charging handle
standard Colt bolt/carrier

Surefire Millenium M96

Unfortunately the barrel is not made to my knowledge.  But I think that would just about do it if you were only to have one rifle.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 2:12:16 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There is no such thing as a do it all.  Get 2 of each.



Actually I disagree.

In my opinion the ideal jack-of-all-trades AR would be as follows

18" govt profile barrel w/ M4 feedramps

Unfortunately the barrel is not made to my knowledge.  But I think that would just about do it if you were only to have one rifle.


Mongo posted a pick in another thread of a colt 20" bbl with M4 feedramps that had not yet been drilled for a gas port, and had an odd profile, but was still heavy.
A little lathe time, and you'd be there.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 2:47:48 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Mongo posted a pick in another thread of a colt 20" bbl with M4 feedramps that had not yet been drilled for a gas port, and had an odd profile, but was still heavy.
A little lathe time, and you'd be there.



I think there are companies that will custom make what I want.  Unfortunately I think it'd also be rather expensive.  However, with all the other high dollar parts in my list, I'm not sure that it'd be the killer.

18" govt profile barrel w/ M4 feedramps
mid-length gas system
Gem Tech bi-lock flash suppressor $85
Larue 12" free float tube  $300
ACOG TA31 $1000
Larue ACOG QD mount $125
Troy rail mount front sight $120
ARMS #40L rear sight $110
Magpul 93A stock $225
Magpul Modular pistol grip $100
Tango Down vert foregrip $60
PRI gasbuster charging handle $90
standard Colt bolt/carrier $180

That's $2400, plus you still need a lower, and upper, and the internals for each, so figure another $300 on top of that.  Now you've got yourself a $2700 rifle.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:16:58 PM EDT
[#49]
24" SS bull barrel, harris bipod, scope.

I'll hide in the closet when the SHTF.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:29:48 PM EDT
[#50]
See my signature line....
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