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Posted: 10/1/2004 6:58:30 AM EDT

So Kerry won the debate, those that love bush and I'm sure most of the men here do =). LOL. We'll we know his public speaking skills aren't up to par. I'm sick of seeing polls Kerry Wins, its a damn debate what matters is who's president Nov 2 . Not who is the better public speaker. Look at me I can't type worth a shit and I own my own company. WTF is this world coming too. LOL

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:03:03 AM EDT

[#1]

i'm only voting for bush because he's less likely to take my guns.

watching the debate last night was like watching those "bumfights" dvds.

i can't believe these are the best candidates america could produce.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:07:52 AM EDT

[#2]

Kerry won?

I don't think so.

He still dodged all the important questions

He is good at telling us all the things he'll do differently

but has still not yet told us HOW

I contend he doesn't know himself he's just spewing whatever will get the most attention

At least Bush is telling how he is going to do the things he wants to do

Correction kerry is going to raise taxes he did say that.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:10:36 AM EDT

[#3]

Sorry I didn't watch the debate, Well I tried but I fell asleep during the beginning of it. I'm going on what I've seen on a couple polls. then again somebody that likes kerry could of easily just kept on going back to the pages and revoting.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:10:49 AM EDT

[#4]

I liked president Bush before the debate, I still like President Bush after the debate. sKerry is a

That is all.......

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:17:28 AM EDT

[#5]

I'm sure Kerry appealed to a lot of the undecided voters out there. I have to admit he did maintain his composure. It's gonna make the race a lot tighter. He said the shit a lot of people want to hear dispite if it was true or not.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:28:49 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
I liked president Bush before the debate, I still like President Bush after the debate. sKerry is a

That is all.......

Correction: sKerry is an ass

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Posted: 10/1/2004 7:35:09 AM EDT

[#7]

Kerry is really good at bullshitting. Hopefully the American people will take him for what he is, a big bullshitter. I think he might've been a little more "smooth" than Bush during the debate, but Bush told the truth and didn't bullshit just to make himself sound good. Kerry can talk all he wants to, but actually doing all the things he says he's gonna do is a different story. Bush had my vote before the democratic primary, and he still has my vote, I don't think theres much that could change that.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:37:15 AM EDT

[#8]

Kerry won, hands down. It was painful watching the president, as much as I think he's the better man for the job (looking out for what's important to me, especially). Kerry certainly came across as more respectible and, I hate to say it, more presidential.

Back on topic as to what it means? I hope people will still vote for the man they believe is more ethical, and grounded in beliefs that they share.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:38:04 AM EDT

[#9]

www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/debate.poll/index.html

Poll: Kerry tops Bush in debate
But Bush gets nod for believability, toughness

(CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry fared better than President Bush in Thursday night's presidential debate, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of 615 registered voters who watched the event.

Most of those interviewed said Kerry did a better job than Bush, and nearly half said the debate made them feel more favorably toward Kerry.

By narrow margins Bush came out better on believability, likability and toughness.

But there was virtually no change among those polled on which candidate would handle Iraq better or make a better commander in chief, with Bush maintaining a double-digit advantage on both issues.

Because the poll questioned only people who watched the debate, its results do not statistically represent the views of all Americans, and in all cases the margin of error was plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Further, debate audiences can be more partisan than the general public.

In this poll, 36 percent of those interviewed after the debate said they were Republican and 32 percent each said they were Democrats or independents.

Before the debate, 52 percent of those interviewed said they planned to vote for Bush, 44 percent for Kerry and 2 percent for Ralph Nader.

By contrast, the last CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, taken September 24-26, had 53 percent of all registered voters choosing Bush, 42 percent preferring Kerry and 3 percent favoring Nader.

Overall, 53 percent of Thursday's debate watchers interviewed said Kerry did the better job, compared with 37 percent who favored Bush.

Kerry's chief strength: 60 percent said he expressed himself more clearly than Bush did.

But 54 percent said Bush would be tougher as president, compared with 37 percent listed Kerry as tougher. And by a 48 percent to 41 percent margin, debate watchers said Bush was more likable.

Of those polled, 50 percent said Bush was more believable and 45 percent said they were more likely to believe Kerry.

More than six in 10 said that both candidates' criticisms of their opponents were fair.

On Iraq, 54 percent of debate watchers polled before Thursday's night's matchup said Bush would handle Iraq better than Kerry.

Did the debate change many minds? Not according to the poll.

After the debate, the same percentage of those interviewed -- 54 -- said Bush would be better on Iraq than Kerry.

The story was almost the same on who would be a better commander in chief -- 55 percent said Bush would be better before the debate, 54 percent said so after the debate.

Although Kerry made a better impression on some basic measures and may have been successful at re-introducing himself to voters, the poll showed he might not have changed many minds on Iraq and military matters.

Because the poll talked just to debate watchers, only subsequent surveys will be able to determine whether Kerry gained any votes.

Four years ago, a plurality of debate watchers thought Vice President Al Gore, the Democratic nominee, had done a better job than Bush in the first debate.

But when the dust settled Bush was the one who picked up a few points in the horse race.

Gallup has asked the question about who did a better job in the debate in five previous elections, and in four of them the candidate who "won" the first debate did not win the election in November.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:42:17 AM EDT

[#10]

Previous presidential debate winners:

Mike Dukakis
Walter Mondale
Ross Perot

EOT

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:47:41 AM EDT

[#11]

Did Kerry win the debate? Cause his staff don't think so and the only stations that say he did have a history of not only bias, but outright making stuff up.

Posted: 10/1/2004 7:50:45 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Kerry won, hands down. It was painful watching the president, as much as I think he's the better man for the job (looking out for what's important to me, especially). Kerry certainly came across as more respectible and, I hate to say it, more presidential.

Back on topic as to what it means? I hope people will still vote for the man they believe is more ethical, and grounded in beliefs that they share.

Dido....regretfully. I'm worried.

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:16:47 AM EDT

[#13]

Try as I must, I can't get the rid of the image of Kerry looking like a Munster family member.

Bush did look a little like Alfred E. Neuman (sp) though...

It's too bad that Bush didn't attack Kerry on his blatant lies more aggressively, especially concerning the 17 or so UN resolutions that Iraq ignored, the 9-11 commission report linking Al-Qaida with Iraq, the fact that Kerry, being on the Senate Foreign Intelligence committee for about two decades didn't anticipate any of the terrorism that we have seen.

What about Kerry's lack of support for any military weapons program in the past decade? What about him, along with Clinton, ok'ing the sale of US missile technology to China, what about the 3 million dead by the hands of the NVA and Khymer Rouge after we pulled out of Vietnam?

Let's not get into Sen Edwards, or Ms. Heinz-Kerry, or Carville or Gore or Clinton or Jesse Jackson. What a bunch of self serving politicians.

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:17:59 AM EDT

[#14]

He won the debate, but he's a masterdebater having started a masterdebater club at Yale.

In terms of substance, Bush won. I still don't know what sKerrys going to do.

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:19:12 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Kerry won, hands down. It was painful watching the president, as much as I think he's the better man for the job (looking out for what's important to me, especially). Kerry certainly came across as more respectible and, I hate to say it, more presidential.

Back on topic as to what it means? I hope people will still vote for the man they believe is more ethical, and grounded in beliefs that they share.

+1

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:19:16 AM EDT

[#16]

For those who mistakenly beleve Kerry won the debate: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=279958

And this is before they have had a chance to release any ads about the various lies and contradictions Kerry uttered last night.

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:22:47 AM EDT

[#17]

I didn't watch most of the debate. Bush looked off, so I ended up switching between the Debate and the end of "Escape from New York" on AMC. It was hard to listen to Kerry without getting sick. The one thing that really put me off is when Comrade Kerry shit on Bush over PRK getting nukes, when 90% of it happened during Clinton's watch AND THEN he proposed an approach to Iran's nuclear program which was essentially the same as Clinton's for the PRK, Agreed Framework II (Whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean - not an agreement, but an agreed framework?).

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:23:22 AM EDT

[#18]

www.command-post.org/2004/2_archives/015667.html

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:24:11 AM EDT

[#19]

GWB spoke exactly the way we all have come to expect. So what makes you think
Kerry won ? GB made most of the good points and has been consistant. Kerry only
knows how to monday morning quarterback. Have faith in American people to come
to the truth.

GM

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:26:42 AM EDT

[#20]

Two liars standing around lying to each other? No thanks, I can get that at the bar down the road.

I would like to see each canditate made responsible for their lies. Each should be required to issue a written report after the "debate" citing each "fact" they mention and providing sources and backup for that fact.

Posted: 10/1/2004 8:37:00 AM EDT

[#21]

It's that whole "Global Test" thing that will sink the Kerry not so swift boat.

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