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Posted: 9/29/2004 10:35:12 AM EDT
IMAGE LINK IMAGE LINK KABUL, AFGHANISTAN - SEPTEMBER 29: Afghan President Hamid Karzai (Rear-C) arrives at the Kabul National Museum for an opening ceremony after months of rehabilation September 29, 2004 in Kabul, Afghanistan. On October 9, Afghans will have the chance to vote for the first time in a direct election choosing a presidential candidate. The election is seen as a crucial step towards democracy and peace in the war-torn country after the fall of the Taliban. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/Getty Images) IMAGE LINK KABUL, AFGHANISTAN - SEPTEMBER 29: U.S armed security stand guard by the ruins of the Darulaman Palace moments after Afghan President Hamid Karzai left the Kabul National Museum for an opening ceremony after months of rehabilation September 29, 2004 in Kabul, Afghanistan. On October 9, Afghans will have the chance to vote for the first time in a direct election choosing a presidential candidate. The election is seen as a crucial step towards democracy and peace in the war-torn country after the fall of the Taliban. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/Getty Images) IMAGE LINK KABUL, AFGHANISTAN - SEPTEMBER 29: An Afghan National Army soldier stands guard next to a ruins near by where Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai is about to arrive at the Kabul National Museum for an opening ceremony after months of rehabilation September 29, 2004 in Kabul, Afghanistan. On October 9, Afghans will have the chance to vote for the first time in a direct election choosing a presidential candidate. The election is seen as a crucial step towards democracy and peace in the war-torn country after the fall of the Taliban. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/Getty Images) Afghan militia wait to hand over their weapons in Kabul on September 29, 2004 during a disarmament program backed by the United Nations (news - web sites). The program aims to reach 100,000 militia across the country over two years. Photo by Desmond Boylan/Reuters US Marines engaging targets from the top of a seven-ton truck at Camp Al Asad, western Iraq (news - web sites). In the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi, west of Fallujah, a policeman was shot dead, medics said.(AFP/UMSC) Two Iraqi men sit in the shade of a building as U.S. soldiers secure the area during clashes between U.S. troops and Iraqi insurgents at Haifa street in central Baghdad, September 29, 2004. REUTERS/Akram Saleh Iraqi men wait to be searched at a temporary checkpoint at Haifa Street in central Baghdad, September 29, 2004. U.S. troops and Iraqi National Guard closed the area to carry out a search operation in the central part of the Iraqi capital Baghdad. REUTERS/Akram Saleh Two Iraqi women walk past a U.S. soldier at a temporary checkpoint at Haifa Street in central Baghdad, September 29, 2004. U.S. troops and Iraqi National Guard closed the area due to a search operation in the central part of the Iraqi capital Baghdad. REUTERS/Akram Saleh IMAGE LINK BASRA, IRAQ: A British soldier aims his gun while patrolling the southern Iraqi city of Basra 29 September 2004. The British government said today it was trying to make contact with Islamists holding Briton Ken Bigley hostage in Iraq and to authenticate Internet messages announcing his imminent release. AFP PHOTO/Essam AL-SUDANI (Photo credit should read ESSAM AL-SUDANI/AFP/Getty Images) Soldiers with the Iraqi National Guard's 303rd battalion aim their guns as they conduct a raid in the Sheikh Maroof neighborhood on Haifa street, Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Wednesday Sept. 29, 2004. Six suspected terrorists, thought to be linked to recent car bomb attacks on Haifa street that killed scores of prospective and serving Iraqi policemen, were arrested along with a large cache of arms and explosives. (AP Photo/Imad Akrawi) IMAGE LINK BAGHDAD, IRAQ: An Iraqi National Guard (ING) soldier secures the area of Haifa street in Baghdad, 29 September 2004. US soldiers and ING troops closed the entrances of Haifa street, a neighborhood that provides an ideal terrain for insurgents to carry out hit-and-run attacks on convoys or fire mortar shells on the nearby Green Zone, a fortified compound which houses the nation's key institutions. Residents of the restive area -- primarily loyalists of Saddam Hussein and Syrian expatriates -- have dubbed it "Little Fallujah", in reference to the western city that harbors the country's most radical Sunni organizations and has become a no-go zone for US troops. AFP PHOTO/Jewel SAMAD (Photo credit should read JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images) IMAGE LINK BAGHDAD, IRAQ: An Iraqi National Guard (ING) soldier secures a road block near Haifa Street in Baghdad, 29 September 2004. US soldiers and ING troops closed the entrances of Haifa Street, a neighborhood that provides an ideal terrain for insurgents to carry out hit-and-run attacks on convoys or fire mortar shells on the nearby Green Zone, a fortified compound which houses the nation's key institutions. Residents of the restive area -- primarily loyalists of Saddam Hussein and Syrian expatriates -- have dubbed it "Little Fallujah", in reference to the western city that harbors the country's most radical Sunni organizations and has become a no-go zone for US troops. AFP PHOTO/Jewel SAMAD (Photo credit should read JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images IMAGE LINK BAGHDAD, IRAQ: Iraqi National Guard (ING) soldiers head for Haifa street in central Baghdad, 29 September 2004. US soldiers and ING troops closed the entrances of Haifa street, a neighborhood that provides an ideal terrain for insurgents to carry out hit-and-run attacks on convoys or fire mortar shells on the nearby Green Zone, a fortified compound which houses the nation's key institutions. Residents of the restive area -- primarily loyalists of Saddam Hussein and Syrian expatriates -- have dubbed it "Little Fallujah", in reference to the western city that harbors the country's most radical Sunni organizations and has become a no-go zone for US troops. AFP PHOTO/Jewel SAMAD (Photo credit should read JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images) An Israeli soldier stands guard as Israeli settlers walk through the Palestinian side of the divided West Bank city of Hebron. Two US Christian pacifists said they had been badly beaten by Jewish settlers in Hebron.(AFP/File/Hazem Bader) Rebel leader Mujahid Dokubo-Asari of the Niger Delta People's Volunteer Force is surrounded by his soldiers as they prepare for war in the creeks of the Niger Delta in Nigeria September 28, 2004. Dokubo-Asari said a rebel offensive, due to be launched on Friday, would be suspended if a deal was reached on autonomy and oil revenues for the delta region. Photo by George Esiri/Reuters REUTERS/George Esiri Rebel leader Mujahid Dokubo-Asari of the Niger Delta People's Volunteer Force trains with his soldiers as they prepare for war in the creeks of the Niger Delta in Nigeria, September 28, 2004. Asari's Niger Delta People's Volunteer Force on Monday threatened to launch an 'all-out war on the Nigerian state' and issued a communique advising all foreign oil workers to leave the delta. He also told oil companies to shut their operations. Companies have largely ignored the instruction to leave, but they stepped up security in the vast area of mangrove swamps and creeks. REUTERS/George Esiri IMAGE LINK LES GONAIVES, HAITI: A United Nations soldier stands before seated Haitian youth before flood-submerged terrain 28 September 2004 in Gonaives. Health care workers and rescuers from around the world struggled to meet the needs of survivors of the devastating floods unleashed by Tropical Storm Jeanne, feared to have killed over 2,000 people in this northern Haitian city. AFP PHOTO/Thony BELIZAIRE (Photo credit should read TONY BELIZAIRE/AFP/Getty Images Chinese police officers wear United Nations helmets during a demonstration with weapons at a training camp in Langfang, on the outskirts of Beijing, China, Wednesday, Sept. 29, 2004. China showed off its peacekeeping forces with marches and drills on Wednesday as it prepared to send them to Haiti in the country's inaugural U.N. mission to the Western Hemisphere. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) Ummmm....... |
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He's got a "shoot-through" muzzle cap/protector." Keeps the sand out... |
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Lumpy rules!
Holy crap! Nigerian guerillas with Korean rifles??? WTF, over? |
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hmmm, looks like we're rubbing off on the iraqis a little. other than that, disappointing as usual.
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It simply says: "Don't fuck around here or you will die right quick." |
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At first glimpse...I thought I was looking at US soldiers.......they sure seem quite together now.
Who trains them? I notice a difference in tactics from Iraqi National Guard units, and Local Police. I remember seeing some being trained in Jordan/Egypt....but not sure which force is trained well. Anyhow.....can see the strong US influence in that shot! |
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The guy in the first African pic with the "Police" vest on is also holding a SA R5...both almost certainly stolen from the SAPS! (That is almost certainly an SAPS vest)
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Looks like theyre wearing 511 vests. Theyre full of usefull pockets that allow for storage of all the good thing an highspeed operator needs. Plus theyre not "tactical" looking and a vest is not as hot as a backpack/pouch setup.
Looks like an AR with an ELCAN thats got a desert camo paintjob. Look at the front sight post infront of his right knee and the mag well near his hip on the right. Its just blended in with his desert camo bdu's. Funny how camo does that. |
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Trigger FINGER?? |
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Disagree. He's holding an AKM. You may think that a distant tree looks like the wavy Galil/R4 cary handle. |
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I thought the same thing. Looks like some of them have/getting their shit together. |
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At least his safety is on. |
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A friend of mine guarded Bremer for a few months....they wear the vest for a few reasons- 1-ID. it gives them a uniform appearence so they know each other if things get very bad. 2-to carry shit. If you look you'll see that they are wearing basic chest rigs, not LBE's or LBV's 3-it's kind of a status thing to wear a 5.11 vest among those types. |
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Hey appreciate the replies...they made me laugh and think.
I guess you never know how long you could get pinned down for...I have never been in a situation close to what these vest wearing operators are into. If I was there I would be easy to spot too...."There he is! The one with the wheelbarrow loaded with spare mags and wrinkled Obi Wan Kenobi robe!" MT |
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Respectfully disagree DriftPunch...look at the pin in the rear of handguard and look hard at the flash suppressor...that's a R5 / Galil or at least I believe it is. The vest lends authenticity to this belief...when the fuck did the guys in Niger start buying "Police" body armor? |
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Im seeing a stamped reciever AK, not a Galil variant at all.
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Chinese....UN helmets.....1911/highpower pistol.... |
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That or a small black balloon, works equally as well. |
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LMAO!! |
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coming to a town near you. |
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BTT for great pics by Lumpy as usual
LOL @ Winston Wolf, took me a minute to figure out WTF you were talking about Also did a double take on the Iraqi soldiers, almost a mirror image of an American squad with older camo and AK's, rather than the "Point the AK anywhere and shoot" methods they used to use, cool to see they're making progress. |
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those Iraqi troops are pretty fuckin high speed.
thanks lumpy. |
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I agree, come on guys look at the stock, Galil? |
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SIGs? Looking at the curve to the rear of the slide. |
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Mainly because they can carry a whole lot of crap in those vests. My 5.11 vest can weigh as much as 25 pounds loaded properly. Spare mags, Com gear, lights, spare batteries and bulbs for lights, possibly a GPS, important documents, maps.... They have to pack a whole lot of crap for just day to day life over there. The 5.11 vest is a great way to do that. The downside is that the 5.11 stuff is now becoming more and more recognized, and if one wears it a lot in the civvy world (like I do) then one can end up looking like one of those BW contractors pretty easy. This can be a bad thing if you are packing heat and don't want anyone to know... |
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