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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:17:57 PM EDT
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How old are you?
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:18:08 PM EDT
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Duh... Did you read this before you posted it. Of course they are using our own rifles and whatever they can get their hands on. What did you expect a rifle truce. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:18:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:19:23 PM EDT
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Those would be M16s, not AR15s. Sheesh, just what we need, some one claiming that the scum are using rifles that WERE formerly banned in this country.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:19:43 PM EDT
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Actually they are M16 A2's and they may very well be marked "US Property"
 LARRYG, beat me to it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:21:25 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:22:44 PM EDT
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I imagine it will be reclaimed by its rightful owners sooner or later, and I am sure they will pry it from his cold dead hands. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:29:05 PM EDT
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I thought it was an M-4. EDIT - you are right, not an M-4 - just saw stock... |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:30:12 PM EDT
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I apologize if I seem uninformed. I'm 38, never seen service, new to the AR community (been an AR enthusiast for 1.5 years since I built my first one), but had never seen until now the rifle of our choice brandished against us. I guess I was always under the impression that these individuals used foreign (re: european) arms obtained from previous conflicts.
Thinking back, this was a very shortsighted assumption. War is war and I assume nobody questions the tools they are given when sent to somewhere they could potentially lose their lives. I hope this all comes to a head when GW gets re-elected. Very tired of watching the "Politically Correct" war when we (correction - the Democrats) seem to be the only ones concerned about the general impression. M590man |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:32:35 PM EDT
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It looks like an m16a4 cause it has a foregrip Bastards
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:35:58 PM EDT
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It is actually a kind of status symbol in Guerilla units to use the weapon of your enemy. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:42:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:47:36 PM EDT
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Dont worry about it man. It has become the norm around here to trash anybody that does not ask the perfect question, form the perfect sentence, use the correct puntuation, and so on. Not only that, but it has become the norm to be a dickhead at all times. Now, just remember to be a dickhead back, but do not be mean to any religions. Got it? |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:51:07 PM EDT
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I know what you mean, if it doesn't make you sick enough knowing every time you see a hostage picture that they poor guy is going to lose his head, I always seem to think again about the poor soldier that lost his life before the terrorist picked up his weapon...........I just don't understand why the citizens are not doing more to help the US forces. So many were happy when we captured Saddam, we are trying to spend BILLIONS of dollars rebuilding their infastructure......I know why they hate us.........but you would think that they would take the BILLIONS in free aid and construction, play dumb, let us get out of town, and they take over the country again. Why does it always seem that terrorist's want poverty and despair........oh.......just answered my own question.......because poverty and despair breeds more terrorist's.....and thats what they want....
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Posted: 9/21/2004 7:54:30 PM EDT
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Too bad, I was hoping the Iraqis would continue to use AK's w/o stocks to give our guys a better chance.
(Put flame suit on) Luckily, the Iraqi BG's will be unable to keep it functioning since the M-16 seizes up the first time it ever sees a sand storm. (Just kidding!) |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 8:46:34 PM EDT
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I can just hear Kerry saying, "Because of the sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, terrorists are now using Assualt rifles against us." I would even bet that he'll say they came from Gun Shows.  I don't know where those terrorists got their hands on M-16's, but I, personally, would love it if I was able to take them away from them, along with something else. My God give peace to those 3 poor guys. 
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Posted: 9/21/2004 8:55:26 PM EDT
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Come Nov. 3rd, their asses are grass. The president will take the leash off.  [ (thieir = terrorists) |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 8:56:34 PM EDT
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I noticed the same thing about the rifle.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 8:59:11 PM EDT
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I have seen pics of them with everything we have. 249, M4, MP5.. Everything accept the tanks and air support.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:11:19 PM EDT
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Yeah, you must be puurrrfect, or else. Got that.  You are wrong about one thing, dave. The only religion we cannot bash is Islam. All others are wide open. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:12:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:13:45 PM EDT
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WTF do foregrips have to do with an M16 being an A4? What makes an M16 be an A4 is it being a flattop. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:16:37 PM EDT
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Whether he wins or loses. If he loses, not only does it mean the end of our country (kerry as pres would be an unmitigated disaster), but it also means he has most of 3 months to unleash the boys over there.When he wins, he will have 4 years to unleash the dogs. and not worry about the soccer moms because he won't have to face them again. 
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:25:14 PM EDT
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The VC were making use of M-16 (and AR-15s, I'm sure) back in the '60s. In the '80s, the Marxists in El Salvador were using M-16s, calling them "gifts from Reagan". In fact, were early M-16s/AR-15s with Vietnam era S/Ns--gifts from communist Vietnam. In the 60s and 70s, ARs were very popular with the IRA, they even had a song "Me Little Armalite". |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:25:53 PM EDT
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Flattop and rails, the Marines use a4s often with a foregrip so it is likely an a4. could it be an a2 with a forgrip? yes but there are tons of marine a4s with the foregrip on the rail. Besides I think I can make out the rail covers but we need a better shot to be sure. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 11:19:39 PM EDT
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Those "AR-15's" were bought at U.S. Gun Shows because the AWB was not renewed. That's where ALL Terrorist get weapons. It must be true, 'cause I saw it on TV.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 11:32:54 PM EDT
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I see no foregrip. I do see a carry handle. A2. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 11:33:13 PM EDT
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Think back a little further to when the US was supplying arms to Iraq to fight against Iran 
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Posted: 9/22/2004 12:18:21 AM EDT
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I keep hearing this, but were were the US tanks and US aircraft that we supposedly supplied them? If someone can document us arming Saddam, I would like to see it. Why were Iraqi troops armed with AKs if this is a fact? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 12:21:39 AM EDT
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Because you usually only see foregrips on RAS, and M5 RAS are usually only found on M16A4s. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 12:22:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Very good but you left out "taking the perfect dinner pic" .
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Posted: 9/22/2004 7:47:29 AM EDT
[#32]
screw it
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Posted: 9/22/2004 7:50:23 AM EDT
[#33]
God speed the Day! This is my honest belief, also. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 8:00:14 AM EDT
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Is that really that suprising, the US has been supplying arms to many countries worldwide, all it takes is a couple corrupt people to sell those weapons to the highest bidder. Common sense there pal.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 8:07:43 AM EDT
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No documentation here but, I have a little understanding of the concepts. More often that not, when the US porivides weapons to a country rather than send US munitions and ordnance they are given equipment of the type that they already have procured on the open market with US funds. In the case of Guerilla fighters the weapons will be US weapons becuase they are not replacing or supplementing an aresenal rather than equipping one from nothing, in this case you don't have to worry about standardization because the supported activity has no standards, whereas an existing military would prefer to keep to a standard paltform, plus it is not as obvious that the weapons are of US origin. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 8:09:10 AM EDT
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After the TOW or JDAM hit's 'em the M16 may be in in pieces!  Oh well it will be worth it!  BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 8:11:46 AM EDT
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I believe we were arming Iran in the Iran/Iraq affair. Or was it the Iran/???? affair that we armed the Iranian people? BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 7:15:06 PM EDT
[#38]
I am not your pal, bub. I know we have sold arms to countries around the world, but I was referring to one specific country, dimbulb. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 9:40:21 PM EDT
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Chances are, most of the support was monetary, funded by CIA, etc.
Think about what the Soviets reaction would have been if M16s and american made tanks showed up on the evening news in Iraq, in the '80s. Who knows what they would have done to help Iran win. Just give Iraq the cash, let the buy AKs and RPGs at $50 a pop. All the while we were/are supporting Israel. I think the world would want to know wtf we were doing. This M16 was most likely looted off of a destroyed Humvee or transport truck. The media also reported that the house these guys were kidnapped from had a large amount of firearms and ammo stored for the security guards who lived there. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 10:00:02 PM EDT
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WHAT A F*CKING
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Posted: 9/22/2004 10:08:38 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure his left hand is on the foregrip, but he could be faking it
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Posted: 9/22/2004 10:10:51 PM EDT
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It's a shame that we don't give them some reloads, I would love to see his face after a KaBoom. It can be marked in a way that our guys would know not to use it. Same thing with the AK ammo, pull back and leave a couple of cases here and there. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 10:51:21 PM EDT
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HAWK missile batteries, and other weapons WERE sent to Iraq to keep IRAN from winning the war... However, they use AKs because they were originally supplied with AKs by the russians, back when Saddam was still a Stalinist revolutionary... The Russians supplied the Baath Party as a socialist client regime... I don't think we ever gave Iraq much more than SAMs and some vehicles/arty.... Definately not rifles, however ARs were available over there (Saddam & sons had several each) pre-invasion.... |
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