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Posted: 9/21/2004 5:19:36 PM EDT
With the recently locked threads and MickeyMouse just resigning as a mod has Arfcom become to PC?
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Yes.
Although it seems to be certain mods/staff more than the site as a whole. |
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Not unless it's recently been made public property.
Did I miss the auction? |
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Yes. But it goes in waves. It gets really anal then it goes lax then anal. It has been that way for years. Don't worry it will get back to normal soon.
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Actually, I was thinking the staff might apprieciate the poll. |
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I agree TXL |
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I don't think anyone here would appreciate being called or compared to PC. |
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holy shit, what was that, maybe 5 minutes since Mickey resigned. thats fast.
Has Arfcom become too PC? if you think yes, don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. |
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I guess I need specific examples of what you are talking about.
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After reading some of your posts, I doubt you think at all. |
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I also agree. |
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I doubt you read enough then... |
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The site has become too PC. Unfashionable views are not invalid (the Readers Digest version of Jeff Cooper on the exhilaration of fighting).
The Bear Pit is the best place to blow off steam (or pre-ban.com) if you think your post is too course for GD. |
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The pit is a perfect example of why flaming off all the time doesn't suit the site. I go peek in there once in a while, but the pit sucks ass. it's just a bunch of crybabies. I can get that shit in traffic every day. Yeah we have some rules here in GD. yeah it would be real nice to see less selective enforcment based on name and post count. But it is a private owned site. They could be selling beanie babies or something far more grave with the ar.15 moniker. |
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[>Q] I got the popcorn! |
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Arfcom too pc recently? By my recollection, arfcom was too pc as far back as 2001. September 2001. September 11-12 2001 to be exact.
As the twin towers fell, I was quite vocal about the perpetrators that attacked our country and call them a slang name that refers to the “cloth that swaths their heads.” I was temporarily banned. Now years later we see numerous despicable acts of terrorism including beheadings, all over the news. The “overzealous Islamic gentlemen” are at war with not only America, but Judaism, Hindus, moderate Muslims, heck, the whole world that is not in agreement with them. And the total number “overzealous Islamic” people in the world that HATE anything not of Islam and agitate for violence are many 100's of thousands more then just the few handfull of 9/11 terrorists we posters were warned to limit our rage to on September 11-12 2001. You know ‘cause it was not pc here at arfcom to blame more Islamic people for aiding/abetting terrorism. So I called them a name. I was right about them. Think I’d ever get an apology? Naw, certain senior staff are too scared of their shadows, and too sensitive. Arfcom is pc? You bet it is. And I won’t forget being punished either. |
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My only issue with PC'ness pertains to radical Islamists. I see no worthy reason why you can't call a white sheep white. I also see no reason why we can't call beasts beasts. Otherwise, I have no issues with PC'ness here. While I don't own or run the site, maybe my opinion doesn't matter. But since I was asked for my opinion in this thread, there it is.
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+1 |
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When a person expressing his real feelings after the beheading of an American citizen are consider by some to be "misbehaving" it does give you the feeling that you are not acting in freedom.
Look what happened to Balzac72, does he deserve to have his account locked? |
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You're blathering on again? And just whom are you calling a crybaby? You're one of the bigger crybabies here. Stuff a sock in it already.. |
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Nah, while I thought Balzac is generally a meat whistle, he packs some sand when it comes to speaking his mind. For that I give him top marks. |
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Wow! Right now we're at 82% think the site is to PC compared with 18% who don't.
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Yes. This place is too PC. When you get into trouble calling criminals "criminals", such as illegal border jumpers, and even differentiating them from legal border crossers by refering to them by their river-swimming behavior, the place is too PC.
Labels refering to undesirable behavior, even non-criminal but undesirable nonetheless, should not be taboo. |
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No, it's not my site to say if it's too PC or not. I am a member, not the owner.
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I don't agree. Dues paying members should have a say in it. |
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Everyone is acting on my lead, so at least blame me. It's funny to see this PC stuff cycle every few months, always when someone pushes things too far. The reason for the CC is to protect the site. If I didnt care what happened to this site, then I wouldnt care what was said on it. There's very little you can do to really push the edge and the "kill everyone" type thread is just popular because of the anger around here. I feel the same hate, pain, and frustration as everyone else, i just take the time to word it differently. If you don't care what happens to the site, then why are you on it? Would it be better to leave these types of comments on the forum and just count the days until we're shut down? My job is not even a no win situation, it's a lose-lose situation. I'd just rather this place shut down because of my actions and not someone else's lack of self control in what they say. |
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And we're being mislead. Just before the "I Quit" thread was locked, this was posted:
The above statement relies on our ignorance about web site hosting. It is assumed that we will believe there are NO web hosting facilities anywhere that allow wide-open sites. As a member of several sites that defy the Corporate Pirates and the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, {freedom of information, satellite issues, etc} I can say without a doubt that sites are hosted successfully, defy corporate & govermental interference, and heck! even turn a profit. You just have to want to succeed. Claiming you have to fight some unseen and unpublished battles does not remove the fact that a decision has been made to bow to the winds of politically correct opinion.
Oh you say. WHAT RELIGION? NAME IT! The unabomber? WHAT RELIGION SUPPORTED THIS? Timothy McVeigh? WHAT RELIGION SUPPORTED THIS? The Earth Liberation Front? WHAT RELIGION SUPPORTED THIS? Just what religion in America is charged with multiple acts of domestic terrorism? What bombings? What beheadings? Who? The Catholic Church? Pagans? Fundamental Chrisitians? Who blew up what, when? You had better name an organized, recognized, religion in America that actively promotes domestic terrorism or retract that statement.
UHmmmmm, yes you are. Look at the pole at the top of the page. Guilty as charged. |
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You have to be PC to keep the advertisers. You get someone voicing thier opinion, words are typed, stonger words are typed. Then all hell breaks loose and just when it gets interesting, someones plug is pulled. Be nice, play nice, too bad that shit doesn't work in the real world. |
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Too PC?
Not really. Too whiney? Absolutely!! One would expect conservative gun owners to be made of sterner stuff, but apparently not. (Note that I’m not making any reference to MickeyMouse since I haven’t a clue what the issue is there.) |
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And we're being mislead. Just before the "I Quit" thread was locked, this was posted:
The above statement relies on our ignorance about web site hosting. It is assumed that we will believe there are NO web hosting facilities anywhere that allow wide-open sites. As a member of several sites that defy the Corporate Pirates and the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, {freedom of information, satellite issues, etc} I can say without a doubt that sites are hosted successfully, defy corporate & govermental interference, and heck! even turn a profit. You just have to want to succeed. Claiming you have to fight some unseen and unpublished battles does not remove the fact that a decision has been made to bow to the winds of politically correct opinion.
Oh you say. WHAT RELIGION? NAME IT! The unabomber? WHAT RELIGION SUPPORTED THIS? Timothy McVeigh? WHAT RELIGION SUPPORTED THIS? The Earth Liberation Front? WHAT RELIGION SUPPORTED THIS? Just what religion in America is charged with multiple acts of domestic terrorism? What bombings? What beheadings? Who? The Catholic Church? Pagans? Fundamental Chrisitians? Who blew up what, when? You had better name an organized, recognized, religion in America that actively promotes domestic terrorism {other than the "Religion of Peace"} or retract that statement.
UHmmmmm, yes you are. Look at the pole at the top of the page. Guilty as charged. |
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What ignorance? If you have been a part of this site, then you know it's members have taken part in getting sites shut down by government offices. Have you seen what they do if they get pissed off? It's usually well known that the gov could give a rat's ass about what happens on the net if it doesn't involve a) millions in lost profits, b) their own asses. Outside of that it's a pain for them to do shit and when they do, they usually are not too thrilled with it. Shit, ever have one of these offices CALL YOU to inquire about things said, why they were allowed to be spoken, and perhaps information on these people. Have you seen the subpoena they serve and how they state that without complete cooperation you will be in violation of federal law? There's a very real issue with pushing limits on the net and when big brother gets involved, you don't want to be a part of it. It's an absolute joy to see their extatic expressions too, like someone gave them some worthless bullshit to clean up not worthy of their time.
This is a generalization taken out of context, but the point is simple. When other actions are taken, even within our own borders, we don't ask rant with a "kill them all" attitude, we ask for the guilty parties to fry.
So because you can't type something on a site, you're not allowed to think or feel it? Have you thought of wording it differently and being clear? Perhaps the problem is emotions are hard to supress in the heat of the moment... |
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