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Posted: 9/17/2004 9:10:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:11:04 AM EDT
[#1]
I think that's a 53 and they're pretty common w/the Brits.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:11:58 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I think that's a 53 and they're pretty common w/the Brits.


Maybe the mag is kind of curved. Need a bigger pic. Kind of hard to see.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:14:14 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm about 99% sure those are 5.56 rounds.  Compare a 7.62 to that optic.

I was there for 6 months and am going back in 6 weeks.  I saw almost all of the Brit protective services types carrying the 53 and saw NO 51s at all.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:17:44 AM EDT
[#4]
correct model is indeed 53
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:22:49 AM EDT
[#5]

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I'm about 99% sure those are 5.56 rounds.  Compare a 7.62 to that optic.

I was there for 6 months and am going back in 6 weeks.  I saw almost all of the Brit protective services types carrying the 53 and saw NO 51s at all.



Why don't we carry the 53? Wouldn't it be a step up from the mp5?
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:26:08 AM EDT
[#6]
I didn't see many mp5s there with our guys.  Mostly M4 spaceguns.  Polish GROM carried mps and the Global Security Gurkhas did too.  Lots of civilians and contractors carry MP5s.  
5.56 out of an 8.3" barrel doesn't have much poop.
I wouldn't want one.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:26:48 AM EDT
[#7]
OOOOOOO!!! Either way whether 5.56 or .308... I want one !!!!!What would something like that go for? $10,000.00? More? Maybe I could talk the wife into us taking out a lone and she would never have to buy me another present.... period! YEAH , RIGHT!!! I'll keep dreaming. Nice gun though.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:31:44 AM EDT
[#8]

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OOOOOOO!!! Either way whether 5.56 or .308... I want one !!!!!What would something like that go for? $10,000.00? More? Maybe I could talk the wife into us taking out a lone and she would never have to buy me another present.... period! YEAH , RIGHT!!! I'll keep dreaming. Nice gun though.



I saw a nice hk 51 for $18000 a month ago
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:35:51 AM EDT
[#9]

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OOOOOOO!!! Either way whether 5.56 or .308... I want one !!!!!What would something like that go for? $10,000.00? More? Maybe I could talk the wife into us taking out a lone and she would never have to buy me another present.... period! YEAH , RIGHT!!! I'll keep dreaming. Nice gun though.



Well, with the sunset, and enough American parts in an HK platform gun, you could make a really nice SBR for a lot less that 10k.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:38:32 AM EDT
[#10]

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Quoted:
I'm about 99% sure those are 5.56 rounds.  Compare a 7.62 to that optic.

I was there for 6 months and am going back in 6 weeks.  I saw almost all of the Brit protective services types carrying the 53 and saw NO 51s at all.



Why don't we carry the 53? Wouldn't it be a step up from the mp5?



From what i've heard, out of the 8.3" bbl, the 5.56 round doesn't have enough energy (spin?) to tumble when it hits, so the terminal ballistics suck. That and the increased flash from incomplete combustion in the short barrel is very pronounced. The only real advantage would be the armor piercing ability of the smaller diameter round.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:42:31 AM EDT
[#11]
The last HK51A3 SBR I saw sold for $3695.00
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:46:38 AM EDT
[#12]
HK51s shake my fillings loose. not a "fun" gun for sustained firing. especially when you're standing by one.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 9:46:51 AM EDT
[#13]

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Quoted:
OOOOOOO!!! Either way whether 5.56 or .308... I want one !!!!!What would something like that go for? $10,000.00? More? Maybe I could talk the wife into us taking out a lone and she would never have to buy me another present.... period! YEAH , RIGHT!!! I'll keep dreaming. Nice gun though.



I saw a nice hk 51 for $18000 a month ago



I'll sell you mine for $16k
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:00:40 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
OOOOOOO!!! Either way whether 5.56 or .308... I want one !!!!!What would something like that go for? $10,000.00? More? Maybe I could talk the wife into us taking out a lone and she would never have to buy me another present.... period! YEAH , RIGHT!!! I'll keep dreaming. Nice gun though.



I saw a nice hk 51 for $18000 a month ago



I'll sell you mine for $16k



Ill give yeah $16 lmao.
$16k is a bit high for me for any gun. I would end up shotting it once or twice and be done with it like most guns I get.
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