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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - latest anti tactic--the AWB didn't work, because it didn't go far enough

Posted: 9/13/2004 4:53:54 AM EDT

From the Washington Post this morning:

For Weapons Dealers, Ban Was 'Big Nothing'
Some Backers Agree Flaws Marred Effectiveness

By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 13, 2004; Page A03

MONROE, Mich. -- Behind the desk at Magnum Force, where rifles line the walls and pistols pack the showcases, Terry Marlow can tap into his distributors' Web sites and see listings for guns that have been banned for a decade.

The prices are there in neat columns. All that's missing is the inventory, and something tells him the blanks will be filled in very soon.

"I'm certain they've got thousands upon thousands upon thousands of them waiting to hit the market," Marlow said.

The 1994 federal assault weapons ban expires at midnight Monday and with it the prohibition against selling certain powerful semiautomatic firearms. Police chiefs, gun control organizations and a large number of Democratic politicians have lobbied for its renewal to no avail. The Republican-controlled Congress is content to see the law expire.

Yet what strikes gun dealers such as Marlow is that the rifles for sale this week will not be different in any significant way from the ones available for the past 10 years. Amid the furious political maneuvering of recent days is a situation little noticed by the public but one well known to dealers: The ban did not prevent many assault weapons from reaching the streets.

"It's a big nothing," said Gary Taepke, owner of Wolverine Shooting Sports, a gun range and firearms store in Brownstown, south of Detroit. "The ban didn't change anything. It is strictly cosmetic."

A surprising number of gun control advocates find themselves largely agreeing with that assessment, although they argue that the answer is not to end the ban but to strengthen it. The failings of the law, they contend, are the product of undesirable political compromises, not proof that their cause is wrong.

The rest of the story here

Funny, just a month ago they were saying the ban needed to stay in place because it was so effective.

Be prepared to counter this tactic, folks--I anticipate it's going to be spread all over the news in the next couple of days.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:06:40 AM EDT

[#1]

They've been saying that all year.

They will not stop trying.

Remain vigilant.

EDIT: Terry from Magnum Force is a good guy, but he needs to read up on the law.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:10:16 AM EDT

[#2]

Heard the local Atlanta Police Chief on the radio this morning ranting and raving about how, "We sick and tired of picking bodies up of the streets. We sick and tired of our police coming under the threat of these things."

Never mind his bad grammer, never mind the facts prove otherwise but he just proved that it didn't work.

ETA: How do they explain the crime rate going down? Heck, like one article I read that expalined more firearms manufacturers have come into business than there were before the ban. Hell, only reason I started buying AR's was because I found out about the ban. I'm sure there were thousands more that did the exact same thing.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:13:30 AM EDT

[#3]

I knew that would be the next fight ..... to ban them completely, not just thier features .... We must keep fighting... now is not the time to relax.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:14:27 AM EDT

[#4]

As long as there is a Stupid Tree....there will be dimokrats.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:22:37 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
A surprising number of gun control advocates find themselves largely agreeing with that assessment, although they argue that the answer is not to end the ban but to strengthen it. The failings of the law, they contend, are the product of undesirable political compromises, not proof that their cause is wrong.

Um, this is just the same excuse the left uses to justify the failure of any action they take, once it is shown to be a failure.

It insulates them from the evidence that their thinking might, in fact, be incorrect. It is a central theme to liberalism.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:26:41 AM EDT

[#6]

The ban didn't go far enough. Basically the only way it could "work" the way they want it to is to ban ALL semi-autos period. Then they need to collect the guns that are out there. Maybe we should push them to do that so we can finally get the skeet shooters on out side.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:29:16 AM EDT

[#7]

And that's where the NRA, GOA SAF and the rest have fallen short.

We all need to hold them to their end of the bargin.
We did the social experiment of the "assault weapons" ban for 10 years.
It was proven not to be an effective measure against crime.

That should be the end of it.

Everytime that one of those anti-gun fucksticks starts up with a "complete ban" is when we need to hold them accountable.

Quoted:
I knew that would be the next fight ..... to ban them completely, not just thier features .... We must keep fighting... now is not the time to relax.

Posted: 9/13/2004 5:31:48 AM EDT

[#8]

While there are always exceptions, Police Chiefs are mostly nothing but politicians in uniform.

Want a real opinion, go to the street cop.

5sub

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