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Posted: 9/13/2004 4:52:51 AM EDT
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Winston Wolf has a SMOKIN deal on a preban!
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Posted: 9/13/2004 4:57:03 AM EDT
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WOW...A new guy with 6 posts telling us about the EE.
Thanks man. I am sure you mean well, but I think we are on top of it. SGatr15 |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:03:12 AM EDT
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It depends on how you look at it, and I think we know where you stand. If you're a collector, some things do hold more value (sometimes significant). If you're Joe Tactical, get whatever meets your requirements... I guess you feel that an original Shelby GT500 is worthless while the kit cars are being produced too... |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:06:36 AM EDT
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No need to be an ass, the guy was just trying to look out for us |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:09:32 AM EDT
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Thanks,but I don't believe I will be selling my NIB Colt SP-1's for no 5-6 hundred dollars.In fact they have never been for sale.Consider the economic realities of collecting before you make such all encompasing statements.Advice only.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:16:55 AM EDT
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Not quite. The difference is the two are not close to being the same. The kit car will never be a Shelby. An AR is an AR as of 9+hours ago in a majority of the states. 90+%? Anyone who thinks my old ones are worth more than new ones, would sell gas at $8.00 a gallon during a hurricane, just because they think they can. There is no intrinsic additional value in most old AR lowers as of last night/ this morning. Sorry for the mixup Sgtar, I was cautioning "New Guys", not doll guys. Does my post count matter if the contents are on target??? Dinkydow is right, there are a few collectables that will have some added value, but I think he will agree that most will not. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:23:39 AM EDT
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I hate when people judge someone based on their post count, as if, by some miracle, more posts equal more intelligence. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:29:56 AM EDT
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I hate it when NEWBIES show up and start tramping around (literally), like tramps do, and running off at the suck. Hey Commie, Guess What???......... |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:31:30 AM EDT
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Was this an attempt at humor? |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:33:10 AM EDT
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+1 More post counts don't equal more intelligence, just less of a life. 
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:35:00 AM EDT
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I appreciate your feelings. The profit motive surpasses all feelings of helping out our oppressed brothers.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:35:07 AM EDT
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Perhaps both. I mean, look at Imbroglio!
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:39:38 AM EDT
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silent1, Thanks for the info! SGatr15, Is there some magic post count that one has to aquire before being "allowed" to speak? |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:47:41 AM EDT
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Some people actually come here looking for help and information, sarge. I know better, you know better, but a lot of new folks looking for AR info may get ripped off. Not all of us are angry cat molesting post whores with a GI-joe fetish and nothing better to do than stomp on peoples threads. (More adjectives available upon request.) |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:58:09 AM EDT
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Former pre-bans outside of NY, NJ and CT are just that, "former pre-bans" and are, save the unusual collectable model, worth less than new units. However, take the "former pre-bans" that people are willing to sell or trade to owners in NY, NJ and CT and they become valuable pre-bans in finite numbers again. There is nothing stopping owners in those states from making a one for one trade on a rifle or lower then re-selling it within their state (as a pre-ban) for a tidy profit. So, these former pre-bans do have more value than new units, depending on who is buying it and where they live.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:58:31 AM EDT
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The new guy is right, barring some collectible type AR, a used AR is worth no more than a new AR. Not talking mint SP-1s, we're talking people's shooters that have thousands upon thousands of rounds through them.
I have a new no ban Eagle Arms forged lower if anybody in a free state would like to swap that for a pre-ban for us NYers. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:59:12 AM EDT
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Hey stupid, just because you have the time to post 18 thousand times!!!!! DOES NOT IN ANY WAY EQUATE TO INTELLIGENCE OR KNOWLEDGE. It simply means you are either unemployed, or mis-using company resources, along with the fact that you have no social life and no WIFE/HUSBAND or GF/ BF. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:06:04 AM EDT
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Yeah i'd have to agree with that, he even said in his thread title caution to NEW guys. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:06:58 AM EDT
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It may be intersting to see what pre-bans are going for within the banned states in a few months. If you can buy a pre-ban lower from a fellow New Yorker for the same amount as a new forged Eagle Arms lower then I'd say you're offer is fair. If not, it's not. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:11:43 AM EDT
[#20]
I'm just posting to get my number up! That way I too can become an "expert".
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:12:28 AM EDT
[#21]
Hey how do you double post?
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:12:52 AM EDT
[#22]
hehe..ouch
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:19:16 AM EDT
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This website is full of elitist gun experts....everytime anybody says anything that can be construed as newbie or uninformed..the "experts" come out of the woodwork to bash em!! Most of it's hilarious. WTF is up with all these slacker gunsites not having brand new websites for us to shop at? i.e. Bushmaster
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:19:41 AM EDT
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Thanks sukebe, but we have a national economy where interstate commerce is allowed. If you can find somebody dumb enough to pay more than the replacement cost of your "pre-ban" beater receiver, by all means you are free to do that. Fortunately there are many folks around here who are not opportunists looking to profit off of the misfortune of others. But thank you for showing us your true colors.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:20:04 AM EDT
[#25]
incoming from a free state. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:24:17 AM EDT
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Take a gander at this clown's website:
www.prebanarms.com $2K+ for an AR? BLOW!!!!!! prebanarms.com/detail.asp?product_id=c793 prebanarms.com/detail.asp?product_id=c797 prebanarms.com/detail.asp?product_id=c802 |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:28:08 AM EDT
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First of all, I never offered to sell my "pre-bans". Don't be so naive as to think that nobody within the banned states is a profiteer. The premise of this thread is that pre-bans have no more value than post bans and that if people living in banned states pay more for them they are getting ripped off. Looking at it from a different perspective, I have debunked that premise. I hope you make your trade. Many people within the banned states won't. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:29:37 AM EDT
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you are SO correct!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:29:48 AM EDT
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No such thing anymore! Well, at least for those of us in free states. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:32:46 AM EDT
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Anything is worth what at least one person is willing to pay for it. His/her reasons are irrelevant.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:38:01 AM EDT
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Well, considering he logged on THIS month and has been here less than 13 days I would say its not the post count as much as the time on the board. Kind of like getting a computer and telling everyone about this great new thing called the internet. SGatr15 
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:38:36 AM EDT
[#32]
I hate it when post count is equated to intelligence or AR knowledge.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:39:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Hey, Sarge!! What's a internet?
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:42:23 AM EDT
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It matters here on arfcom. Home of the self righteous, high and mighty, judgemental posters, some of which are simple assholes. Always have been, always will be. Welcome to the board though. 
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:46:07 AM EDT
[#35]
Oh yeah...
welcome newbie!  Sgtar15 PS get the goat......... 
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:47:43 AM EDT
[#36]
 Thank God this is free market economy and Pre-Ban AR's are still worth whatever the market will bear for them. If you happen to live in a state where they have their own AWB then a true Pre-Ban AR is worth something more to you than a post ban AR because of the value in the features that can be added to it. If you can get a Pre-Ban for the price of a new AR, more power to ya. If you can sell your Pre-Ban for more than the price of a new AR, more power to ya. Personally I would not purposely try and rape people, over price, but I would get more for my Pre-Ban than the cost of replacement. WHY? 1. Because I can. 2. Because it's worth it to most people who understand the law. People in some states are still in effect under the AWB, because it is their own state's law. These people still NEED to own Pre-Ban AR's to have the "evil" features. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:52:34 AM EDT
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Do you know how long he lurked before joining? |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 7:19:05 AM EDT
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Old Board mean anything? hame Remember the troops we sent stuff to? Remember the hurricane relief? Remember all the talk of family??? You can justify it anyway you please, but your actions speak loudly to your true colors. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 9:09:36 AM EDT
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Yup. 
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Posted: 9/13/2004 9:31:36 AM EDT
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Likewise, does the term "ar15-l mailing list" mean anything? (My great, great, great grampa told me about it. Really. Honest. I'm only 20 years old and I just got here.)
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Posted: 9/13/2004 9:45:32 AM EDT
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You must have a minumum post count of at least 300 posts before being allowed to post anything here...   
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Posted: 9/15/2004 11:59:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:32:14 PM EDT
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Now, we should really remember to be more sensitive towards others. |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:35:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:36:42 PM EDT
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I think he was intending that for folks who also have around 6 posts...not you. so if you are on top of it, shut your pie hole... |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:38:32 PM EDT
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What? Is he wrong or something? |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:46:39 PM EDT
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The thing is, something like 35% - 40% of the US population is still under a ban of some sort.
Couple that with the fact that MOST newer receivers are "high or narrow" shelf or the wrong pin size or blocked or... ...and that pre-pre PWA lower on your gun is STILL a bit more scarce than that $75 mega EE special. I think I will just hold on to my lower until the market shakes out. The way it is now, somebody will feel like they got burned two or three months down the road. |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:47:13 PM EDT
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+1 Everyone's got an opinion...I respect SgtAR's opinion as much as Silent1's and Neomastino's. If his observations are not credible, then simply spelling out deficiencies in his arguement is sufficient. I'm more than capable of making my own assessment based on the merits of one's arguement for or against. Attacks ad hominam don't say much about the merits of any arguement. |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:48:23 PM EDT
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What ban is he referring to??? Could somebody sell me a vowel please? |
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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:52:46 PM EDT
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Some people refer to low post counts as the Newbee has no Idea what the board is about, I for one have lurked on the site for more than a year before signing up to post 7 months ago. This could be the same for a lot of the Newbees
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