User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 7:28:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Referring to the HKSp89?
NO, its covered by the 89 ban, I think. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:27:34 PM EDT
[#2]
BTT.
Anyone know for sure? Nacho grassyass. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:38:46 PM EDT
[#3]
Speshul Wepenz made some SP89 clones, sans shroud. ORF could probably do one up for you, definitely could if you supplied the parts kit.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:39:38 PM EDT
[#4]
I bet Ohio Rapid Fire or Jayson at IGF can build an SP89 for you. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:41:04 PM EDT
[#5]
Pistols are covered by a 1993 import ban but you can import the parts and assemble one yourself.
CRC |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:43:50 PM EDT
[#6]
NOOOOO...NOT THAT EEEEEVILLLLL GUN...NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:48:20 PM EDT
[#7]
I'l bet Toad at Speshul WEpOns cood build won fer you! 
|
||
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:50:16 PM EDT
[#8]
Just remember that if you add a front grip you will not have a pistol but an AOW wich requires a tax stamp.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:50:55 PM EDT
[#9]
+1 for ORF to build one.. the forward grip would make it a NFA weapon tho.. (AOW) You could also do a SP-89 Stretch.. www.fjvollmer.com/ROB-1/4/4.htm 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:51:48 PM EDT
[#10]
OOOOOH...FIVE WHOLE DOLLARS...  |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:53:42 PM EDT
[#11]
It would be a five dollar transfer, but it is a two hundred dollar tax for building it. Edited to add: regardless of the low cost, the biggest problem with NFA stuff can be getting a Chief LEO sign off, many even in NFA states won't sign. |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 9:56:37 PM EDT
[#12]
Correct me if I'm wrong:
They can't be imported (been covered before) But magazines can be located outside of the pistol grip. Someone like Vector could always make a knock-off. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 10:05:22 PM EDT
[#13]
You're wrong The mag location thing is aprt of the stupidass, dead AWB... The only rule is no forward grips without registration as an AOW... |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 10:07:37 PM EDT
[#14]
The HK one is banned under the 89 import ban... A clone would be legit, though... Also, an AR pistol of similar proportions would be legal now... Olympic Arms makes the appropriate sized uppers... |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 10:07:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Okay, what I thought. Thanks for clearing it up. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2004 10:37:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Someone should get a "ruling" from the ATF on the matter of adding a forward pistol grip to a pistol not originally designed with it. In a court case in NC I think it was the District Court ruled adding one was not manufacturing an AOW, and threw out charges against someone regarding that (www.titleii.com/BardwellOLD/us_v_davis2.txt specifically 24-27 and then elsewhere it throws out the charges).
Wonder if the ATF might reverse some of it's earlier policy, doubtful but... |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 3:15:05 AM EDT
[#17]
Forward grip parallel to the barrel are allowed. No forward grips at an angle to the barrel. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 3:33:11 AM EDT
[#18]
MP5= overpriced beretta pistol
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 3:43:41 AM EDT
[#19]
want one of those
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 4:23:17 AM EDT
[#20]
The SP89 was actually banned by name in a Clinton executive order in 1993. It would take another executive order or a supreme court ruling to unban it.
www.hkpro.com/sp89.htm Best thing you can hope for is for ORF to build you a clone with enough US parts not to be an imported gun, and not to call it an SP89. How 'bout an ORF89 anyone? 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 4:24:40 AM EDT
[#21]
Don't buy a 9mm HK-MP5 Wannnabe! Do like me...
I'm going to buy an Olympic Arms OA-93 when they become more available... 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 4:29:25 AM EDT
[#22]
Actually, the 9mm out of a short barrel has better ballistic characteristics that a .223. I'm hoping to add an SP-89 clone to my collection. Stay away from the SW89s though--they were built very light to get around the 50oz. rule that no longer exists as of today. I can't imagine the parts in those will last very long.
Then again, Vector will probably have a mini-Uzi transferable as a handgun (with no stock). Might be better... |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/13/2004 4:32:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Oh God.
I was so busy thinking about bayonet lugs, flash suppresors, and cheap magazines that i forgot all about these little beasties. Im going to be so broke. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
