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Posted: 9/11/2004 11:04:15 PM EDT
Here are just a few current auctions running on Gun Broker right now.  Yes, some are reserve auctions but the sellers are starting with low opening bids.  At least this will give a true reading on market values.
Just think where things will be once the sunset is widely understood and has a chance to sink in.

www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22461955
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22906300
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22651227
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22740404
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22784248
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22828098
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22922504
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22759044
www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=22930374
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:17:08 PM EDT
[#1]
The imports and quality weapons will fall some but will stabilize.  Unless HK decides to build 9x series guns in the USA.  Colts will always be worth more but the price will also fall as full option post post ban guns become available.  The off brands like that Sendra? and clones will be dirt cheap.  Not to mention the artificial high price of AKs will fall to a reasonable level.  
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:20:44 PM EDT
[#2]
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:26:07 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




???

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:28:03 PM EDT
[#4]
C'mon..ar's were worth what...3 bills before the ban? Dealers couldn't give them away...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:29:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:30:57 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
C'mon..ar's were worth what...3 bills before the ban? Dealers couldn't give them away...



I'm guessing that you didn't buy many ars pre-94.

Dealer on a pos parts gun was $500... but you could buy 4 SKSs  for three bills or about ten Raven 25 autos.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:33:54 PM EDT
[#7]
I bought my ARs pre ban for around $650.  This was for Colt guns.  I wish I was shopping at the places you were for $300. I doubt it.  I dont think a Colt was ever in the $300 range.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:36:05 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I bought my ARs pre ban for around $650.  This was for Colt guns.  I wish I was shopping at the places you were for $300. I doubt it.  I dont think a Colt was ever in the $300 range.



If you bought a new colt anytime in the 90s for less than $800 you got a deal.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:36:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:36:51 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
C'mon..ar's were worth what...3 bills before the ban? Dealers couldn't give them away...



I remember seeing Colt AR-15's at the sporting goods store in San Jacinto Mall (Oshman's) back in 1988 for $700.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:40:04 PM EDT
[#11]
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:45:23 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



I don't get your reasoning.  Between right now and in a couple days the only difference will be the bayo lug, flashhider and possible telestock (depending on model).  Are you actually buying into the whole "streets will be flooded with assault weapons" crap?  

What reason is there for the prices to drop?  Supply will be the same, demand will be the same.  The only differences will be cosmetic.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:47:32 PM EDT
[#13]
No, is a Colt really worth the extra cash? Will a bushmaster or RRA or Olympic or ASA or Armalite or a million other manufactors outshoot a Colt or are you buying the name brand?
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:48:45 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



The parts for a decent ar cost around $500 - $1000 right now. (depending on what you consider decent )

I don't see how the ban going away is going to change that much.  Is "Billy Machinist" suddenly going to decide that is barrels are only worth $150 because the ban went away? Strongly doubt it... But hey, you live in Kali, you can get half a dozen for $50 on any street corner. That's what Fineswine tells us anyway.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:49:34 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Supply will be the same, demand will be the same.  The only differences will be cosmetic.



Supply will NOT be the same. The feds are NOT restricting the guns...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:51:28 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Supply will be the same, demand will be the same.  The only differences will be cosmetic.



Supply will NOT be the same. The feds are NOT restricting the guns...


Taxation is the most widespread form of restriction.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:51:30 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



The parts for a decent ar cost around $500 - $1000 right now. (depending on what you consider decent )

I don't see how the ban going away is going to change that much.  Is "Billy Machinist" suddenly going to decide that is barrels are only worth $150 because the ban went away? Strongly doubt it... But hey, you live in Kali, you can get half a dozen for $50 on any street corner. That's what Fineswine tells us anyway.



We covet what we cannot get...if all of a sudden all the evil guns are now legal, would you spend the same amount of money for a legal versus an illegal gun? I think not...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:51:39 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Earth to John, "The Feds" never restricted the sale of parts.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:53:00 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Earth to John, "The Feds" never restricted the sale of parts.



Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:54:51 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted: Earth to John.



Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:55:41 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...



And that would make them more expensive?? How?
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:56:33 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Earth to John, "The Feds" never restricted the sale of parts.



Well, that's like telling me I can buy all the radar detectors I want, but I can't use it to detect radar...get it???
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:57:10 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...



And that would make them more expensive?? How?



Where do I say it makes it more expensive??!!!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:00:43 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...



And that would make them more expensive?? How?



Where do I say it makes it more expensive??!!!



When you stated that when the ban went away they would be less so.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:02:26 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:04:17 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??



The greatest state in the nation, California. Bow down to us, you pathetic fools...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:05:31 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??



The greatest state in the nation, California. Bow down to us, you pathetic fools...







     
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:06:04 AM EDT
[#28]
Damn guys, stop all the bickering & celebrate... we WON!!!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:08:06 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Damn guys, stop all the bickering & celebrate... we WON!!!





not yet we still have 19 hours left, you never know Pres Bush might sign an executive order renewing it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:09:27 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Damn guys, stop all the bickering & celebrate... we WON!!!



but for how long??? Someone needs to step up...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:14:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Dude, take your negativity elsewhere. It's obvious you are looking to stir up shit for your own amusement, and I'm not having it.

We fought hard & we WON... it's time to catch our breath, crack a cold one, and thread a muzzle or two!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:16:30 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Dude, take your negativity elsewhere. It's obvious you are looking to stir up shit for your own amusement, and I'm not having it.

We fought hard & we WON... it's time to catch our breath, crack a cold one, and thread a damn barrel or two!



Really??? Tell me what you did...I was in the middle of the fight and I got BURNED...tell me what you did...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:18:04 AM EDT
[#33]
Somebody is off his meds. tonight.

Take care John.

NYP
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:21:15 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Supply will be the same, demand will be the same.  The only differences will be cosmetic.



Supply will NOT be the same. The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Are you talking about preban AR-15's and how the prices will drop because of the sunset (thus the preban becomes just another used AR-15)?  Otherwise you're not making a whole lot of sense.

Right now I can purchase a brand new AR-15.  I've done it a few times.  Starting monday I can purchase a brand new AR-15.  The only differences between the firearms will be cosmetic.  There is no great ramp up or slow down in production, so supply will remain fairly constant.  Law abiding citizens could always (during the last 10 years in free states), purchase AR-15's as they still will be able to.  So no great jump in demand.  There will be a higher demand for parts and for a short time firearms with cool features.  Then it will stabilize as it always does.

I'm not seeing where you say the price of AR-15's will drop like a rock on Monday.  It's not going to happen.   If you're talking about prebans, then okay.

My apologize rickinvegas for the hijack.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:24:27 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Somebody is off his meds. tonight.

Take care John.

NYP



goodnight...obviously you can't specify a real fight...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:21:12 AM EDT
[#36]
Pre-94 prices already falling like a rock  

Tell that to some of the gougers over on the E&E.....
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:51:18 AM EDT
[#37]
In 1978 I paid $431.87 for my Colt,NIB,AR-15,carbine...out the door including sales tax.I still have it and it is still not for sale.Used to sell XM-177,style carbines for around $499.99,in late 80's.Prices on parts and receivers have gone WAY up since then.


So $300.00 for an AR,new,has allways been wishfull thinking.Unless it was stolen.  
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:04:21 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...



You're just saying that because you're from Kalifonistan and can't own one!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:27:13 AM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:01:56 AM EDT
[#40]
Right now my local dealer has about eight AR's.   They have no bayo lug, no FH and no collapsible stock.

Why would I want to pay $750.00 to $850.00 for that AR and then have to invest more money and time into converting it when I can wait till a No-ban comes out with all the features I want?

Thus...............those prices might drop or they will still be in his inventory for years to come.  
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:19:04 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Right now my local dealer has about eight AR's.   They have no bayo lug, no FH and no collapsible stock.

Why would I want to pay $750.00 to $850.00 for that AR and then have to invest more money and time into converting it when I can wait till a No-ban comes out with all the features I want?

Thus...............those prices might drop or they will still be in his inventory for years to come.  



exactly..
you couldnt get me to pay 750$+ on an post ban,,, the onesout there now will drop,,, not much but they will,,, i bet you could see a bushy or such post ban for under 500$ within a few weeks to a month or so untill the newer NO ban modles come out,, those on the other hand will command a higer price for sure,, and hopefully the dealers wont gouge the price,,, the pre 94's will drop but not much,,, id say around 700ish,,, they wouldnt be a reason to have the high price,,
10+ yr old gun 800$ or a brand new Ar with all the goodies for 800$,,,hmmmmmmm not ahard choice,, id go with the newer rifle,,,,, why buy used!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:25:05 AM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:29:43 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
You can get quality ar's piece o'shit offbrand crap toys for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



Fixed it for you
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:31:53 AM EDT
[#44]
Well I bought a AR15 HBAR in 1987 for $850.

Now you can buy a new one for less than $1000.

so in 17 years ARs have only gone up $200-300 in price. I made $612 a month in 1987 and now I make $4500 a month so from my perspective ARs are dirt cheap. I should own 20 of them, but the wife talked me into buying a old house with 5 acres of land.

I just built a RRA M4 for $570,
RRA lower $165
buffer tube $20
Used flat top upper(RRA, Wilson barrel) $250
Bolt group $90
The only thing it needs is a carry handle.

so yes ARs are dirt cheap. I carried a M4 for 7 1/2 months in Afghanistan and its no POS.
FREE

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:32:21 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...



Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:34:44 AM EDT
[#46]
It would appear that  John91498 came out from under the rock.
FREE




Quoted:

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:43:08 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
Pre-94 prices already falling like a rock  

Tell that to some of the gougers over on the E&E.....



Notice all the action they are getting, Most have Zero replies!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:02:27 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??



The greatest state in the nation, California. Bow down to us, you pathetic fools...



Kalifornia is a Republic, not a state.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:05:38 AM EDT
[#49]
How would you know about prices John? Youre in a state that will not allow citizens to own ARs.  Just suck it up and admit you pissed and whinning like little girl because you cant have one!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:15:26 AM EDT
[#50]
Man, some people are dense.
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