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Posted: 9/10/2004 11:02:50 AM EDT

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Pararescuemen from the 38th Rescue Squadron, deployed from Moody Air Force Base, Ga., and the 58th Rescue Squadron, from Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., jump from a C-130 for a high-altitude low-opening, or HALO, free-fall drop from 12,999 feet at an undisclosed location in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Pararescue's mission is the recovery of downed aircrew members and or isolated personnel. Using a C-130 to jump in provides pararecue the fastest way to get to the distressed and provide them with medical attention, protection, and survival.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:03:18 AM EDT

[#1]

nice

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:04:58 AM EDT

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I don't think 12,999' qualifies as a HALO jump.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:06:34 AM EDT

[#3]

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I don't think 12,999' qualifies as a HALO jump.

Pretty standard Jump altitude for Civies.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:07:12 AM EDT

[#4]

Depends on how low they open. Perhaps this is more like a 'MALO' jump.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:08:14 AM EDT

[#5]

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I don't think 12,999' qualifies as a HALO jump.

Pretty standard Jump altitude for Civies.

Was in a Cessna higher than that this weekend.

But that IS a cool picture.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:10:45 AM EDT

[#6]

Cool Pics

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:11:47 AM EDT

[#7]

HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:13:36 AM EDT

[#8]

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I don't think 12,999' qualifies as a HALO jump.

Pretty standard Jump altitude for Civies.

Was in a Cessna higher than that this weekend.

But that IS a cool picture.

Yeah but did you have a combat load on?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:15:20 AM EDT

[#9]

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I don't think 12,999' qualifies as a HALO jump.

Pretty standard Jump altitude for Civies.

Was in a Cessna higher than that this weekend.

But that IS a cool picture.

Yeah but did you have a combat load on?

Even worse...a helmet that said 'student' on it.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:16:12 AM EDT

[#10]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:18:02 AM EDT

[#11]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

never did any halo jumps. what's your point?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:18:35 AM EDT

[#12]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

You ever jump out of a plane?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:18:54 AM EDT

[#13]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

never did any halo jumps. what's you point?

You're a jackass.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:19:23 AM EDT

[#14]

cool pics

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:20:15 AM EDT

[#15]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

You ever jump out of a plane?

yeah, fun times.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:20:53 AM EDT

[#16]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

never did any halo jumps. what's you point?

You're a jackass.

what's your point? that you shit out of your mouth?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:20:59 AM EDT

[#17]

Very cool.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:21:00 AM EDT

[#18]

From "cool pics" to "jackass" in 14 posts.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:22:10 AM EDT

[#19]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

never did any halo jumps. what's your point?

If you have to ask, I don't think explaining it to you would help any. I forgot, you're the Internet Recon gumba Johnny come lately ass kicker keyboard commando aren't you?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:22:42 AM EDT

[#20]

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From "cool pics" to "jackass" in 14 posts.

I think we have a record.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:22:42 AM EDT

[#21]

hALO?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:23:40 AM EDT

[#22]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

You ever jump out of a plane?

yeah, fun times.

where and when? I think there's a minimum age requirement.....

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:23:46 AM EDT

[#23]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

never did any halo jumps. what's your point?

If you have to ask, I don't think explaining it to you would help any. I forgot, you're the Internet Recon gumba Johnny come lately ass kicker keyboard commando aren't you?

if i have to ask, huh? as far as the rest of your post goes i think you have me mistaken for somebody else. good day, sir.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:25:26 AM EDT

[#24]

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HALO? lol. you don't even need oxygen at that altitude.

ps - those pics weren't that bad-assed

When was the last time you went through some sort of Spec Ops and HALO training?

never did any halo jumps. what's your point?

If you have to ask, I don't think explaining it to you would help any. I forgot, you're the Internet Recon gumba Johnny come lately ass kicker keyboard commando aren't you?

if i have to ask, huh? as far as the rest of your post goes i think you have me mistaken for somebody else. good day, sir.

Nope. Based on the rest of your replies in this thread, you are exactly ~~who~~ what I thought you were; an ASS.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:28:17 AM EDT

[#25]

To be properly called a HALO, you should be in the range above 20k ft. and wearing a bail-out bottle.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:28:39 AM EDT

[#26]

HALO - not HALO - who cares -

Those feuckers kick arsh!

Saw a really great special on Discovery (I think) last night about these bad boys going through jump school!

hats off to all of them!! posers need not apply!

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:31:10 AM EDT

[#27]

A few points,

I thought 10,000 was the altitude you started needing to carry a breathable air source.
Those guys are above that, without it.

Next HALO, High-Alt-Low-Open, I thought most military type jumps were around 2,000 or less. If that is true 12,999 is high, relatively speaking.

Next, "I jumped higher.............." Ever jumped knowing there are people on the ground that want to shoot at you? High isn't the danger, it's jumping into COMBAT.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:31:45 AM EDT

[#28]

IBTHALO

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:36:36 AM EDT

[#29]

I thought I read accounts of military HALO jumps from 35,000ft plus? Is that possible?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:37:06 AM EDT

[#30]

Practice jumps are @ 1200 ft and combat jumps @ 800 ft IIRC.

Alos I think that you're okay to 15k feet sans O2 mask/bottle.

Sierra Hombre/Sam Fisher/MILSURP/ETC

You are a WOB. Kindly go fonicate with yourself in traffic.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:38:16 AM EDT

[#31]

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A few points,

I thought 10,000 was the altitude you started needing to carry a breathable air source.
Those guys are above that, without it.

Next HALO, High-Alt-Low-Open, I thought most military type jumps were around 2,000 or less. If that is true 12,999 is high, relatively speaking.

Next, "I jumped higher.............." Ever jumped knowing there are people on the ground that want to shoot at you? High isn't the danger, it's jumping into COMBAT.

No, oxygen starts to become necessary for most people at the 15-16k mark.

And I don't believe those guys are jumping into combat, not that it matters; that wasn't the point; the point was merely that 13k didn't qualify as true HALO.

One of these days I'm going to post a thread about swatting a fly just to see how little it takes to start a pissing match.......

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:38:20 AM EDT

[#32]

what he said!

+1

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:39:06 AM EDT

[#33]

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Practice jumps are @ 1200 ft and combat jumps @ 800 ft IIRC.

Alos I think that you're okay to 15k feet sans O2 mask/bottle.

Sierra Hombre/Sam Fisher/MILSURP/ETC

You are a WOB. Kindly go fonicate with yourself in traffic.

800 feet? That's begging to die.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:40:25 AM EDT

[#34]

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I thought I read accounts of military HALO jumps from 35,000ft plus? Is that possible?

On Aug. 16, 1960, Kittinger set the world's record (which remains unbroken) for the longest (19.5 miles) and fastest (4 minutes and 36 seconds) skydive. He reported his experience in National Geographic. His epic dive started from a helium balloon that he floated to an altitude of 102,800 feet (31,330 m). This high, the sky is black and the Sun intense."

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:42:28 AM EDT

[#35]

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Practice jumps are @ 1200 ft and combat jumps @ 800 ft IIRC.

Alos I think that you're okay to 15k feet sans O2 mask/bottle.

Sierra Hombre/Sam Fisher/MILSURP/ETC

You are a WOB. Kindly go fonicate with yourself in traffic.

800 feet? That's begging to die.

Again, there are people on the ground wanting to kill you. Every second you are in the air.............you are totally exposed.

It's all fun and games until someone opens up with AAA gunfire.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:47:41 AM EDT

[#36]

In thos pics, those guys are above the clouds.....probably not an 800 foot jump, unless they're in the mountains, which is a possibility, I guess.

At any rate, who has an idea for a good fly-swatting thread?

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:48:00 AM EDT

[#37]

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Practice jumps are @ 1200 ft and combat jumps @ 800 ft IIRC.

Alos I think that you're okay to 15k feet sans O2 mask/bottle.

Sierra Hombre/Sam Fisher/MILSURP/ETC

You are a WOB. Kindly go fonicate with yourself in traffic.

800 feet? That's begging to die.

Again, there are people on the ground wanting to kill you. Every second you are in the air.............you are totally exposed.

It's all fun and games until someone opens up with AAA gunfire.

What he said. It's a static line jump, a reserve would do you no good in combat.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:48:51 AM EDT

[#38]

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In thos pics, those guys are above the clouds.....probably not an 800 foot jump, unless they're in the mountains, which is a possibility, I guess.

At any rate, who has an idea for a good fly-swatting thread?

Do you use a wooden handled fly swatter or wire handle? I feel a poll coming on!

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:52:08 AM EDT

[#39]

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Practice jumps are @ 1200 ft and combat jumps @ 800 ft IIRC.

Alos I think that you're okay to 15k feet sans O2 mask/bottle.

That would be correct for static line jumps. This is freefall.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:56:04 AM EDT

[#40]

"HALO" for High Altitude Low Opening, the military term for skydiving, is freefalling in "tactical grouping" (sport skydivers call this no-contact RW). There is also "HAHO" for High Altitude High Opening where the jumpers open at a high altitude like 25,000 feet, and glide long distances to the landing area (sport skydivers call this cross country).

Unlike the civilian skydiver who jumps for fun and ends the day by partying, drinking beer, and swapping jump stories, the military freefall jumper uses the equipment simply as a means to reach their final objective, such as recon, "achieving the objective," extraction and mission de-briefing. Military jumpers also carry tons of equipment (150 lbs). Why so much? Two reasons: One, HALO/HAHO personnel are typically dumped in very remote areas and have to carry all their food, guns, survival gear, water, and all kinds of secret stuff. Two, keeping with tradition that mil jumps be rough so their men have to be tough.

I have never been to the Armys HALO school, but have been to Airborne school my highest jump was from a UH-60 at aprrox 1500 feet, airborne school are approx 1250 feet. All of my other jumps were between 800 to 850 feet to include my Combat Jump.

So I would consider that a HALO jump, when our guys did there night HALO jumps it was always around 12k to 15k mark.

Posted: 9/10/2004 11:57:02 AM EDT

[#41]

I did a search of "high altitude low opening" and looked at several sites.

They say HALO jumps are 10,000 to 25,000 feet. The key is they have to be above the "threat envelope".

Paratroop jumps are below 1,000 feet AGL.

HAHO are 25,000 feet appx.