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Posted: 9/9/2004 5:07:34 AM EDT
What do you think? Which states are likely to do so (i.e. - Michigan) and which ones will likely remain free? I sure hope PA has enough gun friendly politicians to keep the state free.
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NY has had one for three years now, Pataki (our wonderful rino govenor) assured us it just mirrors the feds, so no harm will come to us, only there i sno sunset clause.
Biggest political scumbag there is. ETA: Whoever decides to run against him, be it a democrat or republican, is going to get large amounts of money from me. No doubt about that. |
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PA already has something in the works but I haven't seen anything on it for a while. Hope it stays that way!
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What heilo said - Screw King George (the Rino) Pataki |
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If even MARYLAND can defeat an AWB attempt, any currently-free state should be able to do the same.
Kharn |
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Indiana has had no major attempts to legislate any of that crap. Generally hoosiers have resisted this kind of silliness, except for the bigger cities of Gary, Indy etc. and/or the liberal wieny towns such as Bloomington.
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I really don't see Tennessee passing an AWB but if they do I'll ignore it like I did the Federal one because it'll fly in the face of our State Constitution just like the Federal one went against our U.S. Constitution. A Constitution is only good if people stand behind it and fight for the rights that are in it, when we stop fighting it becomes an old piece of paper with some writting on it and nothing more. Freedom should be in our hearts not on a peice of paper.
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In NY, your Republicans are just Democrats with a different name. That's the only way a Republican gets elected there. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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I don't see one happening in Texas.
Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Good point Frank. I've already decided to disobey any AWB-type legislation passed in the future. You KNOW they're going to pass more strict stuff...there's no question about it...I believe they'll ban the transfer of AWs and magazines in the next attack - it't the logical next step. Fuck 'em. I'll tell you right now...I'm a conscientious objector. |
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nice map |
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In Idaho, you only need a "permit" if you are in the big cities, if you are in the country you can carry concealed all day long.
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I'd love to get a case like this into court. It would almost be a "no brainer" to win a case against an AWB. Just point to when the 2nd. Amend. was written, what were the "common" arms held by the Military and were they the same as the "common" arms held by the Citizens. Of course the answer is "Yes, they were the same." er go we should have the same arms as our modern military today. M4's and M16A2's should be commonly held by citizens of this country because those are the arms that are protected by the 2nd. Amend. How much more should we, the Free Citizens of this country, be able to own semi-auto versions of the common military rifles used today. It's just beyond me why the NRA or other "pro gun" group hasn't taken these crap laws to court. Heck, I could argue a good case and have a 99% chance of winning I'm sure that a good lawyer would have a cake walk with these stupid, unconstitutional laws if they'd just give it a try.
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Because we do not live under the Constitution today.
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That might work, only problem is that the Supreme Court has already said th they will make rulings, not based on the constitution, but on Foreign laws and foreign opinions. The constitution does not really come into play much anymore. |
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I don't know how old you are, what you do for a living, or if you have a family or anything, but me personally, I'm not about to throw my life away over a bayo lug. Now if it was "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in", well now that is a different story. |
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Not going to happen in AZ, unless more CA nuts move this way.
If it does happen, I will simply have to ignore it. 9th circuit already set the record that homemade machine guns are not ruled by the NFA since they never entered into interstate commerce. |
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+1 |
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Keep an eye on Georgia, of all places: Read it and weep, folks
Nothing has come of it, YET. |
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Very true... I thought that it was going to be a slam dunk for the antis, but it failed. Wow... |
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God I hope your right!!! |
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You're going to support Spitzer in 2006? Have the two of you lost your minds? You guys are cutting your noses off to spite your face. |
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Unfortunately that is what the Rino's count on - that we will still vote for them as the lesser of two evils. Until they understand that they cannot screw lawful gunowners with impunity they will continue to do so. It is a very tough choice and I don't know if I can bring myself to vote for Spitzer - but I cannot in good conscience support Pataki when he has screwed over the lawful gun owners of NY again and again. |
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Keep an eye on Georgia, of all places: Read it and weep, folks I live in GA and had no clue of this. I will be busy emailing and calling now. Maybe I'm not as vigilant as I should but I never heard of this. I try to stay up on news as time allows. I believe way too many laws are passed without public knowledge until after the fact. |
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the Democrats in Michigan have already proposed a state AWB! But it won't fly yet. good job MCRGO!
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I understand how you feel but Spitzer is the poster child for the Brady organization(s) and every other anti-gun org in the U.S. If he he wins the election and the NYC democRATS gain control of the Senate they will enact legislation that will make CA look like a pro gun state compared to NY. Expect a complete ban on .50's and anything that remotely resembles a SAW. You can also expect NYC style pistol permits, 5 round rifle mag restrictions and registration of all rifles/shotguns. |
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It would be political suicide here in Alabama...
...OTOH, we can't get them to rescind our archaic SBR/SBS prohibition. |
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They've tried in Illinois for the last two years, but it's never gotten out of committee in either house.
I don't think thay'll get anything passed without being sneaky, so people in Illinois should always watch closely. On a similar subject, I saw Mayor Daley on the news the other day THROWING A FIT about the national concealed carry for cops and retired cops. I love anything that pisses that guy off. |
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That Georgia crap was from, of all places Atlanta, who woulda guessed that, last I heard it died a slow death. Atlanta likes to think they are located in New york or sumthin, The rest of the state is so out of step with the yuppie urban hip big city living folks that make Atlanta the San fran of the east coast.
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Frankel (PA state rep) was trying to do something, what a maroon.
http://www.pahouse.com/frankel/index.asp http://www.pahouse.com/frankel/assaultweapons/QandAweaponsban.htm
TELL THAT TO ALL THE EUROPEANS WHO USE THEM TO PREVENT HEARING DAMAGE YOU IDIOT! Arrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh.
This bozo may run for mayor of Pittsburgh. |
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If you think this is about bayonet lugs and flash hiders then I really feel sorry for you pard. This is about FREEDOM plain and simple. It's about the government ignoring the document on which this great country was founded, the Constitution. If the SCOTUS want's to ignore the Constitution then they are traitors and should be lined up against a wall and shot like traitors. If the Courts won't follow the "Supreme Law of the Land" then why should anyone follow any laws that they push off on us? This isn't really even about firearms either, it's about a people being able to choose their own destiny without government interfearence. We must keep our guns to keep our government in check. We've already given up to many of them and we can already see the result, more government interfearence in our lives. If we give up what few firearms we have left then we might as well move to a different country because this one will be lost. |
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Actually that distinction belongs to the City of NY which first required registration of all rifles/shotguns in 1967 and then outright banned any rifle/shotgun/pistol the Police Commissioner decided was an "assault weapon in 1991." They gave you the option to turn them in to the Police Dept. or remove them from within the City limits. They also limited rifle/shotgun magazines to 5 rounds and consider any pistol with a magazine that extends below the grip to be a banned assault weapon. Thousands of WW II veterans who fought to safeguard NYC from the Japanese and German's were forced to give up their registered "assault" rifles or face arrest and criminal prosecution. CA at least gave the option of registering them or removing them from the state. |
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As for CA - Been screwed since '89. |
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I highly doubt Alaska would. But then again, if Lisa Murkowski gets booted ya never know.
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They should all be green. |
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Sorry, thought the discussion was about states, not enclaves. CW |
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No sunset here in New York, Pataki seen to that. For the rest of you lucky people, Its good to be you!
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Yes, anything that gets Daley's blood pressure steaming is fun to watch. As said before, Illinois with Blowmebitch has treid for the past two years. However, downstate Demo's know that it would be political suicide to get on board with an AW bill. One came close to getting out to a floor vote but had a grandfather clause added and it died. The Illinois State Rifle Association has been pretty good with watching out here. I do believe that our current Govenor will be a one term wonder and it all depends upon who gets in next.
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Minnesota will do it within the next year. Then we can all "FEEEEEEEL SAFE"
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