User Panel
Posted: 9/8/2004 12:31:31 PM EDT
From her floor speech today:
"One manufacturer told a caller from the Consumer Federation of America that there is a pent-up demand for 50-round clips and larger. Who needs a 50-round clip? Hunting laws in every State restrict the number of bullets in a clip to under 10. Who needs a 50-round clip? " Umm in the Carolinas there is no magazine capacity limit. |
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Who said anything about hunting, screw her and the deer hunting crowd both, they have been equally as valuable to our cause.
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I don't need a 50rd mag! I wouldn't be able to shoot it while prone
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Not that hunting has anything to do with it, but I can hunt deer in Georgia with a 500-round belt if I wanted to.
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Thanks alot, bud. <----card-carrying member of the deer-hunting crowd. |
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Mag not Clip...Geez. how's the bitch ever gonna ban it if she doesn't even know what it is?
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For a second there.... I thought the title was "Feinstein Spreading Legs".
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I am all for deer hunting, but we do need to remember who our supporters have been and who our detractor have been, I have heard nearly as many walnut stock bolt gun guys and higdollar shotgun types screaming for renewal of the AWB as I have heard soccer moms.
Edited to add: I hunt as well, but I don't pretend that I know many "hunter" who feel the way I do about black rifles. |
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*I* don't even feel the way you do about 'em.... My point was, not all deer hunters fit the same mold. |
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She doesn't care what it is. They scare her and she wants them banned. Logic and fact do not enter into the situation to her. |
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95+% of what this bitch (and Schumer and The Corpulant Tick and ALL their types) spew out is LIES.
Look at the shit they spew. Almost NONE OF IT EVEN APPROACHES THE TRUTH. This is one of the great failings of our system of government, that these so-called "Servants of the People" can stand up their and make LAWS that impact MILLIONS of people and do so justified on total and absolute LIES. If any of us tried that in our jobs we would be either fired, sued out of existance or spend the rest of our lives in jail (or any combination of the three). These fucktards get a paycheck, retire on full pay and get free medical care FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES in reward for LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON A DAILY BASIS. |
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I would say at least 30% on this site deer hunt, including myself. |
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Umm in the Carolinas there is no magazine capacity limit.
you guy really that bad a shots? ...I can hunt deer in Georgia with a 500-round belt if I wanted to. scratch that! you guy are regular daniel boones compared to the georgia guys!!! just kidding! it's all about 'control' guys. this has nothing to do with hunting. we have to get people like feinswine voted out of office! |
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Guess my hunting permit and payment to my NRA membership this month did nothing for "our cause". Bite me. ~Crp |
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If you read my last post you will notice I also hunt, but that doesn't mean that the average "deer hunter" type is on our side. Until they go for the bolt action center fires, and lever actions that group for the most part could care less about what happens to anybody elses guns, an in my experience they are as adament about thier dislike of "junk guns" as the VPC. If you don't believe me, try telling the average group of "hunter" types that you just bought a TEC9, and see what reaction you get, Tell me how many of them don't say "what do you need that for, they aint good for nothin". They may be right that they are damn near useless, but who are they to say? |
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Feinstein spreading lies!
Nothing new here. If that annoying yenta's lips are moving, she is spreading lies. |
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That's what I was thinking from the moment I opened the thread, so you get a big.... +1 Woody |
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once NY expands rifle hunting into the area I hunt in I'm using my SAR1 and will be sure to take a pic of it next to a dead deer to use when antis say they can't be used for hunting
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Is that a suprise to anyone? |
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I have been using my SAR1 for deer the last two seasons, this season I used a thirty round mag at that, and you should have seen the attitude I got when I went to turn in my tags. |
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She is just one big lie. Its rather funny that she keeps getting elected. Too bad her little 10 year law is going to DIE.
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I always love the brilliance in DIVISION of a cause. Please stop. Many, many hunters are on both sides of this fence. |
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i definitely would have given you a "what a dumbass, but nice buck" look. |
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I did not create the divide, I am only pointing out how it lays. Why should I embrace a group who as a whole could care less about MY rights as long as they are left alone. The whole Ak47's are no good for hunting statement was started by hunters, gun control has gotten to where it is today because hunter felt like they weren't being affected, so why fight it. IF we adopted thier attitudes then we would be further divided than we are, they left us to fend for ourselves, thier guns were not threatened, and they don't really care if ours are. Just beacuse a person owns guns does not mean that they support the second amendment, just beacuse a person claims that they support the second doesn't mean they support your second amendment right, too often it means that they want thier guns left alone. If this offends anybody don't get pissed at me, get pissed at the guy at the range who feels the need to make nasty comments every time he sees a rifle with a pistol grip, remeber he is as much your enemy as Sarah Brady, she supports hunters rights too. |
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You guys are missing the point. Feinswine and her buddies have one ultimate agenda, ban all guns. They are trying to take away rights piece by piece. The most "politically correct" bans first - they are the easiest to run through the legislature. Then, they will progressively work on banning pistols, shotguns, deer rifles, ect. She is definitely a (true liberal)
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Quite possibly the most inteligent (and true) thing I've read on the net all day |
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The thing that irks me, is that they banned the black guns, and for the most part bolt action hunter types didn't mind, a couple of years ago when there was talk of banning "high power long range sniper rifles" that crowd stirred and acted like they would join the fray, as soon as the call to ban thier guns went away so did they. Now that the ban on the black rifles is nearly up, do these guys even have the courtesy to give us a "way to go", no, they jump right back on the "you don't need an AK47 to kill a deer" bandwagon. In this cause we have few allies to count on, and counting on that group as an ally is not going to help us. There is talk on this site about getting suppresors taken out of the NFA, if we had the help of the Hunter community it would be possible, without them it will never happen, in my experience thier reactio to that will be "you only need those for poaching".
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So...when did it become the role of the United States Congressmen to determine what we, the people, "need"?
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Agreed, It's awfull ironic how a firearms lover can endure the accusations from the antis that we are all "gun nut sickos" because we like certain rifles, and turn around and categorize hunters! I dont know who lightening is hunting around, but I havent met a deer hunter yet that didn't love my black guns. What about some other groups? Do skeet shooters do nothing to further our cause? How about benchrest? How about Police...their taken care of on personal levels. I could go on, but I think my point is made. ~Crpdeth |
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Some members of those groups do support and further our cause, but many of all of those groups do plenty to perpetuate our image of gun crazy loonies. It is too common of an event to hear shooters who do not own or use black rifles make the same comments that the gun grabbers make. How many people on this very site critisize Kerry for having foto ops with him shooting clays, or in a dove field, claiming he is a hipocrite? How is he a hipocrite when he is doing nothing a majority of the participants in those activities do, he is a hunter, he is a skeet shooter, he believes in the right to own the types of firearms that are most often used for those purposes, yet he has no problem deciding that since he doesn't want to own an AK or AR then nobody else should have them either.
Edited to add: I never once got a sarcastic comment or strange look when I hunted with a Remington 700, but as soon as I started using an AK, you would have thought that I had two heads. |
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Guess since I am part of the DEER HUNTING CROWD, better cancel my lifetime NRA membership, since I have no value in our fight for OUR Second Admendment Rights. Great way you catagorize people. |
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EQUALLY? WTF, are you high or something? edited to add that I've now read your subsequent posts and I can still say that your first and later posts exhibit a certain level of asshatness. Equating hunters to Feinstein=bullshit. Sorry, it's so ludicrous that no dignified response is possible. |
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No kidding |
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tx has no mag limit, nor does the carolinas, my home away from home...
but obviously she's never hunted coyotes or hogs. for close in hogs, i NEED my ak. ok, maybe i dont Have to have it, but i like it. i hunt with an assortment of civilian and military weapons. so lets take the bitch hunting! |
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The deer hunting crowd falls into two categories.
1) Those that hunt deer and support black rifles. 2) Those that hunt deer and oppose black rifles. While I don't advocate derogatory comments aimed at all deer hunters, there are still those who oppose our black rifles and the ability to possess them by law abiding citizens. Those folks and others who fail to see a problem with all gun control legislation are useless to our fight with the government over the 2nd amendment. Those people fail to see the incremental tyranny pervasive in all gun control legislation. Any measure of gun control which disables the rights of law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is unconstitutional. Punishing LAC's for the actions of criminals has always been SOP for the gun grabber crowd. HS1 |
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It seems that every time the antis need to get an opinion on "common sense" gun laws they have no problem finding plenty of gun owning hunters to give testimonials stating that these kinds of weapons have no place in our society, and that they have no sporting purposes. The Fact is that Sarah Brady herself supports a hunters rights, she bought her son a bolt gun, does that mean we can count on her support to make sure the ban is not replaced? I am sick and tired of hearing how you don't use this aor that gun for hunting, and seeing thousands of hunters supporting this notion. You may think that I am an asshat, but at least I can see what is going on, at least I am not pretending that everything is peachy keen. This will be my last post in the thread, there are some out there who are convinced that because they hunt and support everybodies second amendment rights, that all hunters feel the same, and there is nothing I can say to change thier minds, likewise I have seen enough negative reactions from a community I am involved in to not have my mind changed, so there is really no point in beating our dead horses.
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The only way you can lie to the senate is to be in the senate. That would be funny if it wasn't true.
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magazine if the states already ban them, why waste Federal money creating redundancy? I am so shocked that a politician would lie |
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Well, I dont want you to think that I dont understanding what you are saying in part...I think where you messed up is when you said "screw her and the deer hunting crowd" not only did you "put us in a box" and imply that were all jerks, you also implied that were no different than the bitch in question... I'll add that some people just need to be educated... My cousin, who is an awsome guy, and a life long friend of mine, and a man who I shoot with reguarly, once made the "what do we need it for" statement while discussing the possible ban on the 50BMG...Thats when we had a long talk, and I had to explain the whole gun grabber mindset, and now he will argue with anyone who supports any kind of firearm restrictions...but had you overheard his comment at the range, you would have assumed he was a bigoted bullseye shooter, who felt that you didn't deserve any rights...Mean while he dreams of the awsome Wilson Combat AR he will someday buy. You gotta give folks a chance, and sometimes a little teaching goes a long way. Peace ~Crpdeth |
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