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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:30:45 PM EDT
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Obviously The Prince is his seminal work.
Recommended. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:31:46 PM EDT
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you mean tupac?
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:31:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:32:32 PM EDT
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Yes, they're quite hard to follow, though.
I'd say his writings were maybe twice as hard to comprehend as, say, the KJV of the Bible. His philosophy was really pretty simple.......act as if you had no compassion, no emotion. He was one cold-hearted dude. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:33:19 PM EDT
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Tupac was a big fan of his, but they weren't quite in the same league. Tupac is dead, BTW. 
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:42:09 PM EDT
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Machiavelli based "The Prince" on events in the life of Cesare Borgia, who was the son of Pope Alexander VI and brother of Lucrezia Borgia... Machiavelli considered Cesare Borgia to be a most capable leader and the embodiment of what a prince should be and any ambitious "prince" should imitate Cesare Borgia... It's a good read... |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:43:04 PM EDT
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Don't think Machiavelli would be shocked by today's standards. It's about politics and survival in a controlled and oppressive environment.
 It's about living for another day and the cold hard facts of living in this world. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:44:22 PM EDT
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Key principle, 'It is better to be feared than loved'.
Works great in politics.. hasn't worked so well around the house. YMMV. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:45:16 PM EDT
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The basic premise is "the end justifies the means" if I remember my high school lit correctly. A lot of the time, I have to agree with him. Now I have to go get a copy so I can read it.
Woody |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:47:50 PM EDT
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The Prince is the bible for any would be world conquerers. A bit difficult writing style but of great historical significance.
Tj |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 12:56:55 PM EDT
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Stay away from his version of "The Art of War." Being a politician he knew little about war at all. "The Prince" is an excellent book.
Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 1:08:13 PM EDT
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I bought The Prince earlier this year, started it and got sidetracked. I plan to get back on it later in the year.
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Posted: 9/8/2004 1:14:45 PM EDT
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He is the one who spoke of radical changes in the government without the people realizing it. His proclamation was to offer some semblance to the current ways while conducting changes from within.
A master political tactician. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 1:20:48 PM EDT
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The Prince Chapter 20
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Posted: 9/8/2004 1:23:39 PM EDT
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No friends only interests. It's still true today.
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Posted: 9/8/2004 1:27:18 PM EDT
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CH12
Ch 13
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Posted: 9/8/2004 10:21:54 PM EDT
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Big +1
S.O. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 10:25:09 PM EDT
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Read it, don't LIVE it.
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Posted: 9/8/2004 10:26:30 PM EDT
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College profs love to have you read it and try to shoot down all of his principles. My history prof last year, after trying to shoot down the ideas, put up all of the principles on the board and tried to match them up with Bush... I was thinking in my head "Hell yeah! He aint takin no shit... bitch!" I kept my mouth shut, and passed. - BG |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 11:41:40 PM EDT
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An armed society is a polite society was one of M.'s axioms....
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:00:28 AM EDT
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There, I fixed it for ya 
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:27:38 AM EDT
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It'll make you think twice about hiring "contractors."
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:28:03 AM EDT
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I thought that was Robert Heinlein |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 3:19:31 AM EDT
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Today's security contractors are not the same as the mercenary armies of Machiavelli's day.
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:15:25 PM EDT
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I have only read the prince as of now. I would highly recomend this book.
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:20:42 PM EDT
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My European History professor at UT said his life's goal was to make Machiavelli a respectable figure. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:25:15 PM EDT
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You are correct, it is a Heinlen quote from his book 'Beyond This Horizon.' The full quote is: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. The GOA or JPFO printed up some shirts with that on them a few years back. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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