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Posted: 9/2/2004 11:29:49 AM EDT
I'm currently packing to run away from Frances. I am taking lots of guns because I'm afraid they won't be here when I get back if I don't. It has gotten me thinking though. If you could ensure that all of your other guns would be there when you came back, what would you take with you? I'm thinking a rifle and a handgun, and ammo/mags for each.
What rifle? How many mags for it? How much ammo for it? What handgun? How many mags for it? How much ammo for it? would all of your ammo for both guns be in mags? Bonus question: What knife? Remember, this is not the end of the world. It's just about being prepared for wherever you go, and being prepared for your return. Saying something like "all the guns and all the ammo" isn't rational since you still have to have room for extra clothes, pets, kids, wives, whatever. You know, the rest of your life. You're also not fleeing off into the wilderness, you're going to a hotel or a family/friend's house. |
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I'd take my:
Bushmaster 16" SLW setup 12 mags 2 cases of ammo Kimber Pro Carry CDP II 12 mags 1 case of ammo No, ammo cans. Knife - Kershaw Blackout |
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AR-15 (Bushy carbine) with 11 mags and 500 rounds of ammo.
Springfield XD with 2 mags and 100 rounds of ammo. No, some ammo in mags some in can. Springfield M6 Scout Knife. |
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Maybe I need to be more clear. We're talking about leaving for a couple of days, and then coming back. NOT The End Of The World As We Know It. Just a little hiatus from every day life, and possibly having to protect against looters when you return. Not hordes of the undead.
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Everything is always loaded and ready to go:
AR15 w/ 14 mags loaded + 1 SA .223 300 rd. BP (not counting the one in the well) Colt 1991A1 .45 w/4 mags loaded + 1 box 50 rds. (not counting the mag in the weapon) Tanto blade Buck knife. Plus all of my other gear in the LBE and rucksack. |
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[picturing norman74 pushing a shopping cart topped off with a DSA FAL]
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Rifle:
Bushy 20" 10mags (30rounders) 500 rounds M193 Pistol: SIG P226 (40S&W) w/light 5mags 200 rounds hollowpoint Mags loaded for both guns Knife: S&W Swat 3" folder and a Leatherman
Good, because if it was the end of the world I don't see any reason to bother driving around with a bunch of ammo. Might as well just find a beautiful woman and spend the end of the world in the naked pretzel. |
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That said, I stand by my original answer! "You can never be too handsome, you can never be too rich, and you can never be too well armed!" |
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Umm....Wives?
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In my Jeep is my BOB (weighs 30lbs) with 6 30 rd mags loaded to 29 rds per mag, K-Bar, 60 rds of .45, a few MRE's, H2o Purification and extra bladder, camelback, and field surgical kit, a deck of cards, and a group of misc items.
I also have a med kit (weighs 15lbs) with all other medical needs, to include minor surgery and sutures and IV's. This med kit fits atop my BOB on it's own harness. M4gery with Acog and Surefire and 30 rd mag in the well, boasting a CQB sling. Sigg 220 in a dropleg w/ 4 8 rd mags. I also have another bag filled with stuff for normal 'driving needs' such as TP, securing straps, bungie cords, back-up light, additional MRE's, 12v to 120v inverter, towels, change of clothes and an old pair of speed lacer USGI boots. OK, enough of my stuff.... Norm, The inverter and water purifier may be the only adds to what you are thinking of taking. I know you are planning to be at civilization to ride Frances out...but you never know and these couple of items may come in quite handy. Good luck and keep in touch. |
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Once, you stated that you don't collect, and only have things you use. Thus, I suspect you don't have a ton of stuff. Take ALL the guns, and whatever ammo you want. You don't have to take any ammo even. Why? Because your insurance policy probably has a very low coverage amount on firearms. You stand to lose the most by losing them.
Remember that if your pad gets wrecked, you will not be allowed back for a while. It's part of the danger of evacuating, and you can't guarantee that someone who didn't go won't break in or loot. When Fran hit NC some years ago, the damage was substantially magnified because people were not allowed back for 2 weeks, and their stuff was open to the elements. What could have been saved, often became unusable. |
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My NRA insurance covers all of my weapons. That's the free insurance for being a member plus the low cost additional insurance offered. |
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Wiggy so far is the only one that seems to be living in reality. I'm about to haul ass, (down to the keys ) and I'm taking alot of extra shit.
In light of the packing I just did to get everything into the truck, I think in the future I'd take: The M4gery with an ACOG and possibly a light(I don't own the acog or light yet) The Kimber Series I My Benchmade Nimravus I think I'd take approx. 6 mags for the AR, and possibly 4 for the 1911. All of that should fit in one "Assault Rifle Case" and should be manageable when loading other irreplace-ables in and out of the vehicle. Given what I have on hand and currently own, I'd probably actually take the DSA as Dolomite mentioned simply because optics or not I can shoot the piss out of that gun. I'd still only take 6 mags, so it would cut down on my total number of rounds, but they'd be much harder hitting and much more accurate rounds. And no, I don't collect, which is what allowed me to put all of my valuable firearms into two rifle cases. |
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AR with 7 mags. A full bandolier in the pack, and 2k rounds in the vehicle. A spare pump gun with 100 buck, 300 bird, and 50 slugs in the vehicle. Two pistols, one service w/ three mags and 300 extra rounds, one pocket with 100 rounds. One .22 rifle and .22 pistol, 2k rounds.
If in big game hunting or bear country one 30/06 or .300 win mag with 200 rounds. That should get your through anything that a firearm needs to do. Knifes: K-Bar or SRK Pocket knife Leatherman tool Skinning tool and bone saw |
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I will take my BO bag (water filter, fist aid kit, radio etc)
1 case of MREs and 1 case of water (in basement) I will take the M4 and 2 AK (one for each son), ammo briefcase (10 AR mags 6 AK mags) also ammo can with 500rd 5.56 and 7.62 ( I would have more but I have been shooting alot) I wil also take the 5 gal fuel can from the basement along wth the laptop just in case I get to a place with phone line/internet conection. Also I will take the camera because what would an apocolypse be without pics Everything else will have to be aquired on the was to my Father in laws place back home if nessasary. Indeed this sounds like alot of things but everthing here can be loaded in less than 10 mins as it sits in my basement ready to go. If I bug out I do not want to regret leaving something behind. If I have less than 10 Mins I grab weapons and ammo. FREE |
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For your description (where you know you'll be coming back - and your certain of the security of the stuff you leave behind), IMHO 6 mags is about the max I would consider; 2-4 would be more reasonable (1 in the firearm and either 1 for my belt mag holder or 3 for my chest harness); 2 magazines for my pistol (3 tops). My LW Carbine (with light and EO Tech) - the Compact ACOG would be in a pouch in the case. Handgun would be my Glock 19 Knife would definately be my Kershaw Blackout. Rifle would be in a low profile type of case (26" tool box, guitar case etc). Hangun would be carried CCW. |
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Some of you guys are packing extremely heavy.
My BOB is mostly quick use, emergency stuff (water, fire, first aid, food, clothing, shelter), but on the sides, I've got two USGI ammo pouches loaded with 6 x30rnds Q3131A. I've also got my pistol belt with my SIG P226, 5 x 15rnd mags, a SureFire Nitrolon G2 and a knife. Personally, if I need more ammo than that, it's a lot bigger than a hurricane. Oh, and the knife is a Cold Steel SRK. |
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BM M4gery w/Surefire, 9 loaded (XM193) 30rd mags in Blackhawk LBE, 500rds in stripper clips in ammocan.
Glock 23 w/Glock Light and 6 mags (Clinton Mags now) loaded w/180JHP. 16 liters of water. A Katadyn water filter. $300 cash. An Ontario Mk3 Diver's Knife. A Swiss E-Tool. My rain suit. A British surplus summer weight sleeping bag. My Jeep Cherokee. |
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I guess you have to consider whether your guns will be safer in your safe or in your car or wherever you go. I don't have enough guns, so they all fit in my vehicle. I would bring all of mine and a few hundred rounds of ammo. Other than that, the most expensive ones, the handguns, and of course the AR. Other expensive on uninsured stuff (computers, jewelry, cash, cameras), camping gear, water jug, prescriptions.
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16" AR with EOTech or Aimpoint
16 30 round mags (13 in ammo can with spare ammo) 1 Beta C 1 extra ammo can full of Q3131A on strippers Kimber Gold Match with night sights in sholder rig w/3 loaded mags 3 other loaded mags 200 rounds of .45acp |
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For a couple of days, My 20" HBAR and two ammo cans of ammo and 8 20 round mags. Also my Colt Combat Commander, 5 Wilson mags, 4 Colt mags and 200 rounds ammo. M9 Bayonet.
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For just a few days, just my S&W M410 .40 and my trusty Benchmade 154CM.
One mag is enough for a weekend...how many people do I plan to shoot on a weekend getaway? Now, if im stuck in the storm affected area, and I anticipate looting....well then...Bushy M4gery, a pack of loaded 30rnd mags and a few pounds of nice jerky. |
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I guess this little storm may illustrate the advantage of having a sturdy safe to some.
Me, I'd just take a sidearm, but that's just me. |
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Bushmaster A2 carbine
10 mags=300 rds if i had a handgun? a good M-1911A1 5 mags; 35 rds yes; loose ammo is annoying and noisy K-Bar, full size clip point |
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M1A, most definately.
7 mags 2000 rounds-damn this trip is getting heavy 1911 5 mags 300 rounds Knife: hmmm, this is a tough one. Since its not the end of the world, i would have to say my benchmade stryker. The way i see it, if i have to resort to using my knife to kill, or survive, im fucked anyway. Hey, this sounds like fun. |
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Darn! Are you guys 'bugging out for a few days' or going to war?
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Take the weapons, leave most of the ammo. Ammo is cheaper to replace. Your weapons could get in the wrong hands if stolen and used in crime.
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Lots of people being excessive here. For me, the MAX would be:
M4gery with 4 spare mags in CQB thigh rig Glock 27 with 2 spare mags carried CCW Leatherman Wave Other than that, food, water, clothing, car BOB, blankets, kids and cats. Might take the wife too, but not right now as she is persona non grata with me this week (she has PMS, we had words). |
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Like me. you cant have enough ammo. Plus what if SHTF? |
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-AR-15
-6 or 12 Mags (depending upon situation & Caching) ~240 - 420 rds (depending upon loadout) -Colt 1911 -As many as I have... ~150 rds Minimum -Most Likely. Dunno what knife... I'm in the process of switching from the KaBar to something better. Need to get a decent multi-tool, and fixed blade. The fixed blade will be something good for fish & game cleaning. Also bringing a hatchet & small Craftsman shovel. LBE & Rucksack/BoB A better question would be: How much WATER are you going to carry if you Bug-Out... That's a VERY big determining factor regarding how far you will get. |
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Stuff is Hitting the fan - it's only a few days it's not TEOTEAWKI. |
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There's a gigantic hurricane coming and you're just worried about your guns?
BTW, are you taking the wife and kids with your guns? |
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Pretty much what everyone else has said plus firestarting items,fishing stuff and a small 5 band radio.And of course the family.Take care. Coondog
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Pistol: Beretta 92FS, 5 mags. Extra box of ammo. I'm in CA were carrying loaded magazines in a vehicle with a firearm it goes to is illegal, but I have a firearms open carry permit, so it is ok, so the mags would be loaded.
Knife: CRKT M16-14 Special Forces Tanto (the hilted blade with the fold lock mechanism. I wouldn't take a rifle, I'm not going on the offense toward anybody. |
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He was just asking about the guns. If you bothered to read the first post he mentions only taking 1 longarm & handgun because he needs room for the important stuff (family, food, water, clothes etc). |
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Colt AR-15, I have nothing against Bushies but I take what I have.
Kimber Ultra Carry II, super small 1911, I love that puppy. Since my entire firearms collection is just 2 other 1911's I could take all my guns with me. The only knives I own are of the kitchen type. Must stop at fun store for something better. A few hundred rounds of .45 and .223 at most should be good enough. I would be more worried about leaving my DVD collection behind then taking a lot of ammo. No pets, no wife, so the computer goes with me too. A couple days worth of clothes would be in order. Cash. |
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I was joking... |
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$6499.00. That's insane. Back in the 90's I spent a weekend in Amsterdam. For $6499.00 you could fly round trip and have more sex then you can shake a "stick" at for much less. Window shopping is just so much fun. |
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DON'T take any guns with you!!! Havin guns on you will only encourage violence and mass shootings. Guns are bad. Give them to the police to have them disposed of safely. Take a cell phone and call 911 if you are in danger. The police will assist you right away. And if you are in danger of being hurt or looted, don't resist, do whatever they tell you and you'll be "safe". Good luck to you. (These would be Susan's Brady's words of wisdom for you)
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I knew it! I knew it! Back to the thread: I am so happy I don't live in hurricane country! I will take my most expensive rifle, my M1A Scout w/ about 6 loaded mags. My 870 with a box of buckshot and shells My H&K Compact with the two mags I currently have. I would want to get back to my home/guns as soon as possible. |
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Alright just addressing guns and ammo that I already own for a few days' stay at a hotel or friends/family's place:
- Glock 30 .45ACP with 4 mags (two of them 13-rounders from the G21). I can mostly conceal it in an around-the-house setting, it's reliable, it hits hard, it's accurate as hell and, even though I'm not big on "flash", that bi ol' muzzle in a squat, ugly package can be intimidating as hell. - Bushy Shorty with 6 30-round mags. Ditto on the hard-hitting accuracy. Simply and easily breaks down into a discrete package (duffel bag, toolbox, etc.), "scary black rifle" factor, wife can shoot it well, too. - Might throw in a few loose (yes, two "o"s) 20-round boxes of extra Q3131A but, on the whole, would carry topped-off mags. This isn't a trip to the range or a plinking session - the guns are staying hidden unless needed and, if needed, would be needed right fucking now. I'm not much of a knife guy beyond basic utility stuff and would be content with the Leatherman Wave and Schrade folder in the BOB that lives in the truck full-time. Good luck, brother! |
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After seeing I |
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take the doll, combine it with that honda robot thing, and some ai, and you have the stepford wives or the arfcom wives! |
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*6 MRE's
*a couple canteens with drinking water *RUGER PC9 9mm carbine with 6 - 20 rd mags & 200 rds of additional ammo *1911A1 carried in GI tanker's holster and 100rds of ammo *extra clothing *important documents *$1000 cash & credit cards |
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