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Posted: 8/31/2004 10:34:27 PM EDT
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Armed men take over school in Russia, all I have heard so far ---------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, August 31, 2004 PHOTOS VIDEO Click image to enlarge STORIES BACKGROUND •Explosives Deemed Cause of Russian Jet Crashes •Moscow's Candidate Wins Chechnya Vote•Blast Near Chechnya Kills Two•One Russian Jet Crashes; Another Breaks Apart in Air•Fast Facts: Terrorism in Russia•Fast Facts: Chechnya Conflict MOSCOW — A woman strapped with explosives blew herself up outside a busy Moscow (search) subway station Tuesday night, killing at least 10 people and wounding more than 50 in the second terrorist attack to hit Russia in a week, officials said. Seven days earlier, almost to the hour, two Russian jetliners crashed within minutes of each other in what officials determined were terrorist bombings. All 90 people aboard were killed, and the investigation has focused on two Chechen women believed to have been passengers. A militant Muslim web site published a statement late Tuesday claiming responsibility for the subway bombing on behalf of the "Islambouli Brigades," a group that also claimed it caused the jetliner crashes with terrorist teams in retribution for Russia's war with Islamic rebels in Chechnya (search). The veracity of the claims could be confirmed. The statement said Tuesday's bombing was a blow to Russian President Vladimir Putin (search) "who slaughtered Muslims time and again." Putin has firmly refused to negotiate with the rebels in predominantly Muslim Chechnya, saying they must be wiped out. Several female homicide bombers allegedly connected with the rebels have caused carnage in Moscow and other Russian cities in a series of attacks in recent years. Mayor Yuri Luzhkov told reporters near the Rizhskaya subway stop in northern Moscow that the bomber was walking toward the station shortly after 8 p.m. but turned around when she saw two police officers. She "decided to destroy herself in a crowd of people" in a busy area between the subway station and a nearby department store-supermarket complex, Luzhkov said, adding that the bomb was packed with bolts and pieces of metal. "There was a desire to cause maximum destruction," he said. A spokesman for the Federal Security Service, Sergei Ignatchenko, told NTV television that the casualty toll had risen to 10 dead and 51 wounded, of whom 49 were hospitalized. Many of the injured were believed to be seriously wounded, and the death toll was expected to rise. It was not immediately clear if the number of dead included the bomber. In Washington, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the United States "condemns in the strongest terms the recent terrorist attacks in Russia." "The American people grieve for the victims of these horrible attacks and extend condolences to their families," he said. "No cause ever justifies terrorism." At the scene, a white car was set afire, and shattered windows and bloodied people lay on the asphalt in front of the subway station. A woman, apparently distraught with panic, pushed away a man who repeatedly reached out to help her. A man lying on his stomach moved his arm weakly as people crowded around him. "There was a powerful blast and then a smaller one. I thought my roof would come off," said 30-year-old Sergei Pyslaru, who was driving on a nearby street. Alexei Borodin, 29, said he was walking with his mother when he heard "a very powerful bang." "Something flew past my head -- I don't know what it was. There were people lying in the square," he said. "There were pieces of bodies. We were walking through pieces of people." Chechen secessionists have been blamed for a series of attacks in Moscow and other parts of Russia the past several years, killing nearly 370 people with bombs in just the past 21 months. In the most recent bombings, 41 people died in a rush-hour explosion on the Moscow subway in February, and a female homicide bomber blew herself up outside a hotel adjacent to Red Square and killed five other people in December. Many of the Chechen female homicide bombers are believed to be so-called "black widows," who have lost husbands or male relatives in the fighting that has gripped the southern region Chechnya over most of the past decade. Chechens on Sunday elected a new Kremlin-backed president in the republic, a move Moscow hopes will bring some stability to the region. Alu Alkhanov, Chechnya's top police official, won with 74 percent of the vote, election officials said, after a campaign in which the six other candidates rarely were shown on television and a leading opponent was kept off the ballot by pro-Moscow local officials. Alkhanov will replace Akhmad Kadyrov, who was assassinated May 9 when a bomb ripped through a stadium in the Chechen capital, Grozny, during a Victory Day ceremony. A Chechen warlord claimed responsibility for the attac, which killed as many as 23 other people |
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Hopefully Putin will do his part to show the punks that terrorism will not be tolerated and if they wish to live they should go to some country like france or iran.....you know, some place that terrorists are respected.
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oh, you ARE f@cking KIDDING me........... |
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These women come from the same ranks as those who occupied that Moscow theatre. The Ruskies know how to deal with - no mercy. |
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Gun battle with police rages in North Ossetia, near ChechnyaThe Associated Press Updated: 2:53 a.m. ET Sept. 1, 2004MOSCOW - Armed men seized a school in the Russian region of North Ossetia Wednesday morning and were in a gun battle with police, news reports said. The region borders with warring Chechnya. advertisement The seizure took place on the first day of the Russian school year, when it was likely that a large number of parents had accompanied their children to class. The reports said the school was in the city of Beslan, which is about 10 miles north of Vladikavkaz, the capital of North Ossetia. Vladimir Yakovlev, President Vladimir Putin’s envoy for the southern region of Russia that includes North Ossetia, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as saying it was unclear how many children, teachers and parents may be held in the school. There were no immediate reports of whether the assailants were making demands or indications of who they were. Police could not immediately be reached for comment. In 1995, Chechen rebels led by warlord Shamil Basayev seized a hospital in the southern Russian city of Budyonnovsk, taking some 2,000 people hostage. The six-day standoff ended with a fierce Russian police assault. Some 100 people died in the incident. © 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. PRINT THIS ARTICLE EMAIL THIS ARTICLE |
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I though school shootings wouldnt happen in a country where civilian gun ownership is outlawed. Well at least thats what Rosie said. |
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I don't know how long Russia will stand for this.
Messing with a market or a subway is one thing... messing with children is entirely different in the manner in which citizens will react. - BUCC_Guy Prayers sent for the poor red bastards. Break the crescent moon. (Hot damn... i think I found me a new sig) |
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Wonder if the russians will treat this like they did the movie theater.
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It was actually a live performance theater and, no - the results of that drug had negative effects on the young, old, and ill. A different tactic would certainly need to be employed. |
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Sincerely? Yes, I pray to god that he does. There is nothing in this world that is more horrific than harm to children. I would suffer a thousand deaths to prevent one of those children from dying. I guess I'm a bleeding heart conservative. |
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Fox news just reported that the terrorists are threatning to blow up the school.
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Fox news reporting 400 people being held 200 of them are kids.
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Threatening to blow up the school? Well, it goes to show you that terrorists are the same. Utilizing the same tactics as Hamas.
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Foxnews
MOSCOW — More than a dozen attackers carrying guns and wrapped in suicide-bomb belts seized a school in the Russian region of North Ossetia (search) Wednesday morning and were holding hundreds of hostages, including some 200 children, news reports said. www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131060,00.html |
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Two airliners blown up………
Suicide Bombing in Moscow…… 10 dead. School attacked …… 400 hostages…… Looks like it's kicking off bigtime in Russia Andy |
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things are going to get ugly bigtime very fast!!!!!! I do not think Putin will play with them very long.
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I think President Putin should be sensitive about this and try to understand why the terrorists are being....terroristic.
Maybe the UN can help or perhaps France or John Kerry. THAT'S IT! John Kerry can win this for the Russians by bringing everyone under the same tent! |
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Say what you want about the Russians, when it comes to their children, they are very protective. Holding kids hostage will go a long way towards galvanizing the public there against any part of the terrorists' agenda. The Russians are not handcuffed by a liberal left (like the West) and won't put up with this.
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I refuse to believe it! Its RUssian lies. Everyone knows Muslims are a people of peace, and their religion is one of tolerance and understanding...........
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the russians are getting it as we are getting it -- for the same reasons.
you shall reap what you sew. my sympathies to all the russian citizens who, like us, suffer the same evils from their governing pigs as we do from our pigs -- its a shame. B. latent U. nrepentant S. ocialist H. ypocrite |
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Yup. Unfortunately, those kids are more than likely going to be killed. Russians sent in the alpha team with gas in the theatre last time, so that tactic is out the window. It sounds like the terrorist have complete control of the building, and are likely learning from their mistakes in Moscow, so any takeover will be very costly. Chechnyan terrorists will not give in, and the Russian government will not give in either. I pray for them all, but their fate is unfortunately already sealed...... |
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Bush is a socialist. Right. |
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A new DU troll to beat bown... A few questions... Why haven't the idiot islamic terrorists tried to take a school here? Or a theater, or bomb a subway? Could it be because of the repecussions of those kind of actions that are going on NOW in the Middle East? Nah.. |
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Right, you reap what you sew. And the muslims are doing just that right now. |
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It's "reap what you sow" Now, would you like to explain why you believe Bush is a socialist? And why leaders WE ELECT suddenly become governing pigs? (I will grant you that once in office, many politicians of all stripes do like to stay in) Lastly, how is threatening to kill children (who had no say in any elections or part in any historic conflict) justified? Seriously, I'd be interested to hear your rationale. |
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You are giving Oddball credit for being rational - and that is a stretch!! |
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Piss off you fucking asshole. Yes that was a personal attack and I would make it again and again against such stupidity. |
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Back to topic without the liberalterian moron butting in. It is my sincerest hope that we are all now able to see clearly that Islam is the enemy of western civilization and must be checked. While other nations have certainly killed civillians and children by accident during wartime, Islam seems to follow the path laid out by their nazi teachers who also followed false gods by directly targeting children. Evil is as evil does. I'm not overly religious but somehow every day it seems like we are getting closer to that final battle.
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I thought that was the case. BigDozer66 |
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Apparently beheadings just aren't getting the coverage and outrage they used to. Looks like the Islamics have stepped up the level of barbarity a notch or two.
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this is going to end badly
the russians just don't have the counter-terrorists abilities of us and western europe, and the chechens are fucking animals. |
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Oddball is just screwed in the head. Blame Bush for everything.
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The Russians don't have the Might be time for W to call Putin and let him know that (in exchange for a little more support at the UN) that we will not lift a finger if they want to go in a nuke Chechnya (figuratively or literally) |
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Where did this story come from? I am assuming its not the mainstream press, as they tipped the truth by outing the Chechens as Islamic terrorists.
Next thing you know, we might see some reporting on what is actually happening to non-muslims at the hands of the "religion of peace" in Bosnia (one of Clinton's numerous escapades of "peace-keeping" capitulation), Sudan, FRANCE, etc. At least the Russians know how to deal with their terrorists. The female terrorists wrapped in explosives (who were gassed in the theatre because they didn't get the gas masks worn by the male terrorists) - one bullet each to the head. No trials, no lawyers, no investigation of the circumstances. No attempting to disarm the explosives on a living but unconscious terrorist. The only reason to leave a live terrorist is for interrogation or other intelligence gathering opportunities. |
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all over Google news
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=axrGBYRhEIS4&refer=top_world_news http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3439988 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/01/1093938998682.html 17 captors, 8 dead (conflicting reports on # of deaths, threatening to blow the place up, 400 hostages, half children
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from Bloomberg:
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Well the Russians are asking for a (UN) security council meeting today to discuss the problem they've been having the last few days with with the "Children of God".
I'm not sure why but I'm guessin' it'll go somethin' along the lines of......(Russian representative) "Hey guys, we're gonna go and rubble a coupl'a cities down south....Y'all cool with that?" |
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The Russians have had a lot of time to perfect the agent they used in the theater. Don't be surprised if they try that again. Of course, it will probably end badly for all involved.
This is an all time low for Chechnya. [oddball]DAMN THAT BUSH FOR CAUSING THIS[/ODDBALL] yer a tool! |
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Amen. I always thought the one mistake GWB made in the war on terror was letting the State Depertment continue to rub the Russians nose in shit over "Chechen seperatists". Seperatists my ass, they're terrorists pure and simple. We should ally with the Russians. Offer our air support in Chechnya in exchange for Russian boots on the ground in Iraq and A-stan. If WW2 taught people anything it's that the combination of American technology and Slavic ruthlessness is a real winner. If the Germans couldn't beat us at their peak, these Jihadist animals don't stand a chance. We need the Russians. They aren't soft like us when it comes to dealing with these savages. |
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they should release Milosovic and have him UNLEASH HELL like he did in on the muslims in kosovo
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