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Posted: 8/29/2004 10:19:56 AM EDT
www.stolenhonor.com
from the web site ... HARRISBURG, PA (8/25/2004) - Even before the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth aired their first commercial, independent journalist Carlton Sherwood's company Red, White and Blue Productions was busy planning a documentary featuring the views of former Vietnam POWs on what John Kerry's actions did to them. As a Vietnam veteran with relationships with many former POWs, Carlton remembers that when John Kerry returned from Vietnam his words and deeds caused severe pain that's never been forgotten. Now and through the coming weeks, Americans will hear a still yet untold story. The story of men held captive while a former colleague betrays them. This is the documentary film that the Kerry campaign and the liberal media REALLY doesn't want you to see. Download the trailers and watch. These guys are real American Heroes and now they are speaking out. JpM |
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Skerrys campaign reminds me of the movie Titanic.
He started out on the bow as "King of the World " !! Now he's on the tip of the stern as she upends and heads straight down. |
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You know, a rational person would agree. Problem is, all the skerry supporters, including his media apologists, wouldn't care if they found out he had shot kennedy. They aren't voting FOR skerry, they are voting AGAINST GWB. |
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Wow!
I can't imagine how anyone with any sense could listen to Ralph Gaither for five minutes and STILL wind up voting for John F***ing Kerry! Unless they have an agenda that is opposed to having great character present in those in high office! Wait! I've just described just about the entire DemocRat Party! Eric The(Republican)Hun |
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Yeah he could kill his daughters and they wouldn't care.
But he is DONE. |
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...but..but..but..he was in Viet Nam and was a war hero..you facist. |
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[liberal]That's why I supported Klinton over Bush and Dole, he is no war monger. [/liberal] |
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“Without question, we were held captive longer because of the anti-war people, the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens, the names we knew over there - they encouraged the enemy to hang on.” (Excerpt from “Stolen Honor”)
- Leo Thorsness Former Vietnam POW Leo Thorsness is a personal hero of mine since I once had the honor to meet him very briefly. He was an F-105G "Wild Weasel" pilot shot down over North Vietnam after he was nominated to became a Medal of Honor recipient in this incident: MEDAL OF HONOR THORSNESS, LEO K. Rank and organization: Lieutenant Colonel (then Maj.), U.S. Air Force, 357th Tactical Fighter Squadron. Place and date: Over North Vietnam, 19 April 1967. Entered service at: Walnut Grove, Minn. Born: 14 February 1932, Walnut Grove, Minn. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. As pilot of an F-105 aircraft, Lt. Col. Thorsness was on a surface-to-air missile suppression mission over North Vietnam. Lt. Col. Thorsness and his wingman attacked and silenced a surface-to-air missile site with air-to-ground missiles, and then destroyed a second surface-to-air missile site with bombs. In the attack on the second missile site, Lt. Col. Thorsness' wingman was shot down by intensive antiaircraft fire, and the 2 crewmembers abandoned their aircraft. Lt. Col. Thorsness circled the descending parachutes to keep the crewmembers in sight and relay their position to the Search and Rescue Center. During this maneuver, a MIG-17 was sighted in the area. Lt. Col. Thorsness immediately initiated an attack and destroyed the MIG. Because his aircraft was low on fuel, he was forced to depart the area in search of a tanker. Upon being advised that 2 helicopters were orbiting over the downed crew's position and that there were hostile MlGs in the area posing a serious threat to the helicopters, Lt. Col. Thorsness, despite his low fuel condition, decided to return alone through a hostile environment of surface-to-air missile and antiaircraft defenses to the downed crew's position. As he approached the area, he spotted 4 MIG-17 aircraft and immediately initiated an attack on the MlGs, damaging 1 and driving the others away from the rescue scene. When it became apparent that an aircraft in the area was critically low on fuel and the crew would have to abandon the aircraft unless they could reach a tanker, Lt. Col. Thorsness, although critically short on fuel himself, helped to avert further possible loss of life and a friendly aircraft by recovering at a forward operating base, thus allowing the aircraft in emergency fuel condition to refuel safely. Lt. Col. Thorsness' extraordinary heroism, self_sacrifice, and personal bravery involving conspicuous risk of life were in the highest traditions of the military service, and have reflected great credit upon himself and the U.S. Air Force. JpM |
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" I'da beaten the steam out of him....maybe thats what he(Kerry) needs."
-Ralph Gaither i like that quote |
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Be damned if I can watch them... tried viewing with AOL and IE without AOL through Roadrunner... no dice. Let me know if anybody has them for download rather than streaming.
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Prideboss im going to add this to the free kerry book tacked thread and pre ban,com.
FREE |
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has anybody been able to save them? For some reason I can not view them.
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Assuming it gets enough spread.
Send it to the Belmont Club belmontclub.blogspot.com/ Or command-post.org/ they both get a goodly amount of traffic. |
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You've heard it here before Hun...it's ALL about Florida 2000. I have some liberal friends who would vote for OBL before they would Bush. Ordinarily and on virtually all other subjects, they appear to be normal, rational, and bright people with a head on their shoulders and good common sense. They are also Democrats...and they are also bitter about losing in 2000....and again in 2002. This is there big chance. Some even admit that they don't like Kerry...but they LOATHE Bush and the Republicans SO much that they are working their asses off to get out the vote and defeat Bush. They don't listen to reason or argument about the war, or the economy, or any other political subject. It's just beating the man... Strange...I still haven't figured out why this is... |
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John, thanks for the link. Kerry can say what he wants to, but the truth is coming out. My uncle served several tours in Nam flying F105's, and many of his friends spent years as POW's. I sent the Bush campaign a thousand dollar check, he must win, or we'll all pay for years.
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Amazing..................................I hope this puts the final nail in his long overdue political coffin........................
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+1 The same dumbasses that put Clinton in office (twice) are the same people who will vote for Kerry. It wouldn't matter if Kerry blew up the WTC himself; liberal democrat scumbags would vote for the devil himself if it meant getting Bush out of the White House. |
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Hopefully this really does sink him. The counter-attacks are going to be vicious tho.
- BG |
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Thos eof you now will to admit I am a politcal genius please stand to the right---->>>>
SGatr15 |
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those who want to put you in the looney ward... step to the left... <----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Let the Dems try and discredit these REAL heroes. Even Sen. McCain says this is a valid Vietnam issue to debate.
I think the real "Band of Brothers" are now being heard from. God Bless them all in this their last battle! JpM |
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I dont think the Democrats will listen to this either.
Their mantra now is anyone but Bush. |
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How is it going to be broadcast? I bet my left nut that the major networks will never show it. FOX might, but it would be a stretch. However it is going to be disseminated, they darn well better hurry up. November is a lot closer than most folks think, and if Lurch wins this whole country is screwed.
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Exactly. This focus is not going to cause Kerry to lose. Kerry will lose when the focus is placed on his lack of ability in the Senate to get anything done and on his personal attitude of being a snob prick. |
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There was no mention of this over the weekend by any major network newscast (non-cable).
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All I can say about those clips is..........WOW.
WHAT A SCUMBAG! If this dork wins, he will be reviled by the military in a manner that will make Clinton look like a military darling! |
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No mention because this is brand new ... as in yesterday. The first mention was by Rep. Bob Dornan (22 year USAF veteran) on FOX last night and Friday obliquely.
Dornan showed the remnants of an American flag that was burned in a demonstration 33 years ago in front of Kerry while he (Dornan) was standing next to him trying to stop it. He said he's been saving it for all these years and stalking Kerry, in every campaign, whenever he could. According to Rep. Dornan "If you think the Swift Vets are mad, wait until you hear from these POWs!" You can do your part by spreading the "word" through your e-mail list. JpM |
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Don't worry about that! It should take about one day to cover the country. |
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And then .... Ollie North weighs in
Bring it on, John by Oliver North August 27, 2004 "Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'" -- Sen. John Kerry Dear John, As usual, you have it wrong. You don't have a beef with President George Bush about your war record. He's been exceedingly generous about your military service. Your complaint is with the 2.5 million of us who served honorably in a war that ended 29 years ago and which you, not the president, made the centerpiece of this campaign. I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn't about your medals or how you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. I only have two Purple Hearts, though. I turned down the others so that I could stay with the Marines in my rifle platoon. But I think you might agree with me, though I've never heard you say it, that the officers always got more medals than they earned and the youngsters we led never got as many medals as they deserved. This really isn't about how early you came home from that war, either, John. There have always been guys in every war who want to go home. There are also lots of guys, like those in my rifle platoon in Vietnam, who did a full 13 months in the field. And there are, thankfully, lots of young Americans today in Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered to return to war because, as one of them told me in Ramadi a few weeks ago, "the job isn't finished." Nor is this about whether you were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Heck John, people get lost going on vacation. If you got lost, just say so. Your campaign has admitted that you now know that you really weren't in Cambodia that night and that Richard Nixon wasn't really president when you thought he was. Now would be a good time to explain to us how you could have all that bogus stuff "seared" into your memory -- especially since you want to have your finger on our nation's nuclear trigger. But that's not really the problem, either. The trouble you're having, John, isn't about your medals or coming home early or getting lost -- or even Richard Nixon. The issue is what you did to us when you came home, John. When you got home, you co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War and wrote "The New Soldier," which denounced those of us who served -- and were still serving -- on the battlefields of a thankless war. Worst of all, John, you then accused me -- and all of us who served in Vietnam -- of committing terrible crimes and atrocities. On April 22, 1971, under oath, you told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that you had knowledge that American troops "had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam." And you admitted on television that "yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed." And for good measure you stated, "(America is) more guilty than any other body, of violations of (the) Geneva Conventions ... the torture of prisoners, the killing of prisoners." Your "antiwar" statements and activities were painful for those of us carrying the scars of Vietnam and trying to move on with our lives. And for those who were still there, it was even more hurtful. But those who suffered the most from what you said and did were the hundreds of American prisoners of war being held by Hanoi. Here's what some of them endured because of you, John: Capt. James Warner had already spent four years in Vietnamese custody when he was handed a copy of your testimony by his captors. Warner says that for his captors, your statements "were proof I deserved to be punished." He wasn't released until March 14, 1973. Maj. Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who was in Vietnamese custody for 2,284 days, says his captors "repeated incessantly" your one-liner about being "the last man to die" for a lost cause. Cordier was released March 4, 1973. Navy Lt. Paul Galanti says your accusations "were as demoralizing as solitary (confinement) ... and a prime reason the war dragged on." He remained in North Vietnamese hands until February 12, 1973. John, did you think they would forget? When Tim Russert asked about your claim that you and others in Vietnam committed "atrocities," instead of standing by your sworn testimony, you confessed that your words "were a bit over the top." Does that mean you lied under oath? Or does it mean you are a war criminal? You can't have this one both ways, John. Either way, you're not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief. One last thing, John. In 1988, Jane Fonda said: "I would like to say something ... to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm ... very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families." Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John? JpM |
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