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Posted: 8/24/2004 7:54:40 AM EDT
These have been flying over my place for the last three days:
 
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Posted: 8/24/2004 7:56:25 AM EDT
[#1]
They look white or grey
SGtar15 |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 7:57:43 AM EDT
[#2]
Cobras?
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Posted: 8/24/2004 7:58:35 AM EDT
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Looks like gray Apaches to me.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:01:20 AM EDT
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Don't Apaches have 4 rotor blades? |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:02:10 AM EDT
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Apache AH-64D
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:02:42 AM EDT
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Cobra AH-1W
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:02:43 AM EDT
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i use to go over in the saginaw area and around the old bell plant there you would see the black vehicles and unmarked crew. they have national guard vehicles and gear over there as well
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:04:29 AM EDT
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Didn't know this was an issue. The ones at the air cav unit where I live are all black.
Tj |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:07:21 AM EDT
[#9]
www.ccad.army.mil/ |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:14:20 AM EDT
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You would think they would have to fuel up pretty soon..... 
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:14:28 AM EDT
[#12]
whew, i thought this was a thread about cavet
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:16:03 AM EDT
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The helicopters in those pictures are Cobras, they only have two blades, Apaches have four. Those helos also appear to have skids, adn apache has wheels. While the Military may have some black helicopters, the vast majority of Army Helicopters are painted a very dark shade of green, I am not an Army pilot nor have I ever served as an Army helicopter crewman, my father was an Army piolt, my father in law was an Army Mainanence Warrant Officer (both retired with over 20 years, FIL 28 years). Growing up I lived on some of the most highly traffic helicopter bases in the worls, including Ft. Rucker AL, and Ft. Campbell KY, as an Adult I live for three years on Ft. Bragg, and another four in Fayetteville about three miles from Simmons Army Airfield, I have seen thousands of Army Helicopters, and have never seen a black one. I have seen plenty with orange doors and panels, I have seen a few that were painted grey, and even one that was camo, but never black.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:16:19 AM EDT
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And I thought I was alone...
 and...  From my trip to NY. ByteTheBullet (-: |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:19:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Those appear to be Cobra's, either Marines or National Guard, hard to tell. The Army Cobras are a near black dark green . They use an IR suppressing paint, optimized for night flying. The interior of the cockpit is even darker, for contrast with lights that can be set to use NVG's without glare.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:20:13 AM EDT
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When I was in FL a couple weeks ago, I saw seven or eight helicopters (unidentified) flying in a formation like:
H--------------------H--------------------H--------------------H ----------H--------------------H--------------------H--------------------H Of course, I was pretty close to Eglin, so... It scared the hell out of me when I saw five Chinooks flying in an arrow formation right over my neighborhood, but apparently they were transporting Mr. President. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:20:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Thinking Cobra.. typing Apache. 
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:23:11 AM EDT
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These just blasted by.The dogs were barking like crazy.Maybe they were emitting some sort of stun ray on them?
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:23:32 AM EDT
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[foilhat] this site offers some GREAT insight into the world of black helos [/foilhat]
zapatopi.net/blackhelicopters.html |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:24:13 AM EDT
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The 2-blade vs. 4-blade ID technique is going to go out the windows, guys, with the new Zulu model cobra:
 Faster, longer range, more payload with up to 16 Hellfire missiles, 2 AIM-9 Sidewinders, and, of course, the 3-barreled 20mm cannon in the nose turret. It's also easier to maintain, more robust, and can be flown from either the front or the rear cockpit. I get a chubby every time I see this thing 
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:25:20 AM EDT
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I NEED TINFOIL......NOW 
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:25:42 AM EDT
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ch46s? or whatever the marines call thier "little" chinhooks?
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:30:54 AM EDT
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CH-46 Sea Knight. I concur. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:35:26 AM EDT
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The skids and it's narrow fuselage will sstill be fairly obvious. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:46:44 AM EDT
[#25]
He said hellfires.....heheheheh
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:51:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:54:45 AM EDT
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You got that right! It's the water buffalos we should be keeping an eye on. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 8:55:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:06:47 AM EDT
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That looks an awfule like an Army UH60A "Black" hawk, I will say again the Army paints thier helicopters a very dark shade of green, that under many circumstances may appear black. Seveal posts back there was a very good description of the paint the Army uses, the reasons why, and the properties of it.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:10:03 AM EDT
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From Bell Helicopter: Zulu Cobra spec page
Yup. I said HELLFIRE!  
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:37:11 AM EDT
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well, my tin-foil conspiracies were once again foiled by facts.
 They were MARINES training at the SCLA and they were on their way back to 29 Palms.  |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:37:38 AM EDT
[#32]
PRAISE THE LORD!!! And pass the... tinfoil???
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:38:18 AM EDT
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The National Guard is flying all of the time right now. Linking their Guard duty flights with the cooperative efforts of State, Federal, and Local LEOs to find marijuana in corn fields. If you have any ag areas near you, no doubt that you'll see increased of helo patrols in your area.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:52:11 AM EDT
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CH-46E or "Frog", CH-53's are "shitters, AH-1W's are "snakes", AH-1's are "heuys" AV-8B's are "lawndarts or buttdarts", the F/A-18's are also darts but also refered to as a "Hornet" (go figure) and -103's are "Hercs or Fat alberts" but this is coming from a Frog crewmember(6172). |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:03:43 AM EDT
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Take your pick. They were probably either the H-53 based Pave Low's like my avatar, or the smaller H-60 based Pave Hawks flying out of Hurlburt Field. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:04:31 AM EDT
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No, they are really out there. A few weeks ago a buddy and me were out in rural Virginia doing some shooting. Hear a helo coming and it cruises by at about 1000 feet. Blackhawk, no tail numbers, no markings; nothing. Oh yeah, and I'm sure it had nothing to do with us being about 30 miles from "The Farm".
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:09:36 AM EDT
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I was spending a bunch of time in south Ga last month, and saw bunches of formations of Apaches. You have to rememeber that when you see groups of military helicopters they will almost always maintain a very neat formation, it's the way the are taught to fly in groups, it keeps them from running into each other. As for reading the tail mumbers, most markings on military helicopters are black, so at a distance the black markings on a dark green helicopter will not be visible.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 12:26:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Depending on which way the formation was flying in your diagram, it was either a staggered-right echelon formation or a staggered-left echelon.
And by the way, the MH-53 is absolutely the finest aerial platform I've had the pleasure to ride on. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 12:30:22 PM EDT
[#39]
I ALWAYS loved the look of the Cobra.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 1:16:33 PM EDT
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You folks may laugh but, while on my way to a bike ride around Mugu Rock in SoCal I saw an Apache helo. Nothing to worry about you say? Well, this one was all dull black with no numbers or markings to speak of and flying about two hundred feet off the water. Now I admitt that I am within 100 miles of Hollywood. As you all know they film this stuff all the time so it may have been a false alarm on my part. I questioned my buds at the riding site and two of them had seen it as well. The rest said I needed to wear my tinfiol hat more.
I report, you decide! |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:57:17 PM EDT
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Styk, I didn't know you worked at the Depot. My best friend Joe's dad (Danny's friend) has worked there for many moons. Jake. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:02:08 PM EDT
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Curse you Gi Joe!
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:04:26 PM EDT
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Ah, I have some shooting buds that are part of the test group. Last I had heard, testing was suspended due to the engine intake sucking up missle exhaust when they're launched.... |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:07:14 PM EDT
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Now this is a different story, when it comes to Hollywood, there is no question about black helicopters, somebody has to keep that pack of idiots in line, I think those helicopters swoop down and take away any actor who forgets for a moment that we would all be better off under the leadership of Stalin. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:08:59 PM EDT
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Got any more pictures? |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:10:32 PM EDT
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So what did you do?
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:27:47 PM EDT
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We can order 'em from WalMart? Right? Hell, I'm Puttin' one on layaway next week. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:34:33 PM EDT
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The DEA is flying black UH-60A's out of NAS North Island.
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Posted: 8/24/2004 10:39:07 PM EDT
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I believe that those are AH-1w (Cobra), Probably from Camp P. (ok 29 Stumps)
 been there saw those would love to see them again.
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Posted: 8/25/2004 1:48:29 AM EDT
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I don't think yhe bottom pic is a .mil helo, to the best of my knowledge, we currently don't have anything in the inventory with a Fenestron tail rotor. Probably a local cop helo or mabye a news chopper. |
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