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Posted: 8/21/2004 4:09:01 AM EDT
Cops Disciplined for Tasering Grandmother KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Police said Friday two officers have been disciplined and department policy changed following an investigation into the officers use of a taser when arresting a 66-year-old grandmother who honked her car horn at a police cruiser. Louise Jones was arrested in June on charges of misuse of a car horn on a city street, resisting arrest and intentionally inflicting bodily harm on an officer. Her husband, Fred Jones, 74, was also arrested and charged with interfering with an arrest. Police said Louise Jones tussled with officers when they tried to give her a ticket for honking the horn. One of the officers used the taser, which is capable of issuing a 50,000-volt shock, to stun her. The officers said Fred Jones then came downstairs and jumped on one of the officers' backs. Louise Jones said she pulled away from the police when one of the officers grabbed her arm, and her husband said one of the officers had his knee on his wife's chest. As a result of an internal investigation, the department has increased the threshold for when taser use is appropriate and now requires a field commander to look into each taser deployment. Police also have developed a task force made up of community members and department personnel to look into the department's current taser-use policies. "This was an unfortunate incident that I believe could have been avoided if there would have been a less confrontational environment," said Chief Richard Easley in a statement. "Officers of this department, however, are held to a very high standard in their professional conduct, regardless of the conduct of other persons." Police said the investigation was delayed because Louise Jones and other witnesses declined to be interviewed by investigators, though the department did review affidavits from Jones and the witnesses that were submitted by her attorney. Police said the officers involved did cooperate in the investigation. The statement didn't indicate how the officers were disciplined. |
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I was in favor of the cops ramming the speeding car in GA that they had chased 76 miles at speeds of over 100 mph. I remained neutral on the Florida Hurricane victim taser case. But I have to say this one is hard to justify. I mean any cop who can't restrain a 66 year old woman probably doesn't need to be a cop to begin with. Good grief.
BTW, I listed my take on those other examples just to show that I'm neither a cop basher or a police apologist. I look at them all on a case by case basis and voice my opinion. |
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Agreed. Agreed. |
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What link? Did I miss a link? Where's the link? |
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That's the point, bud. |
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Sorry, bud. Here you go, bud. link for my bud Can I call you bud? |
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This is kind of a dupe. His post does report some follow up though. The world is going nuts , a little more each day --- so few notice. |
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Thanks, bud. Sure, bud. Anything you say, bud. |
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If she would have submited to the officers none of this whould have happened. Who the fuck does she think she is, honking her horn at the police? She's lucky she only got tazered.
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On yer knees boyah! |
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Resistance is futile --- submit. She is of another time, another set of values, the new generation would not understand her. |
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That is totally fucked up, those asshat cops should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon,that could of killed that old women,electrical currents can disrupt the heart rythem, if she would have had a pacemaker it probably would have fucked her up. They should at least be fired and never allowed to work in law enforcement again |
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Honking the horn could have startled a passing car driver thus a danger to the public, after ramming her car, he should have used his 9mm to finish the job.
Repeat topic and wussie cop! Suspect was guilty of POP only which in the US is a major offense. Pissing Off Police! Tj |
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One cop hands his doughnut to another and says, "Watch this!"
C'mon guys, try to see it from the cops' perspective. What is the point in carrying all this neato-torpedo gear around unless you get to use it! On the serious side, I see a not so distant future where the police will have the equivalent of a Star Trek phaser set on 'stun.' It will be used in almost all situations from 'mildly tense' on up the scale. This will be justified by the increasing cost of health care caused by scuffles and fights with the public. A single back injury inflicted on a LEO or alleged perp can cost the taxpayer's millions. Your city council (this means YOU!) will demand a policy of 'stun first, ask questions later.' |
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Ok. Person honks their horn at you. Big whoop.
Some people get on a bit of a power trip and will arrest or fine upon slightest provocation. If you are incapable of smiling through an insult, then you don't need to be a cop. That simple. All of this over a honked horn is rediculous. A mature cop that had more brains than balls would have just ignored it and gone on about his day. Too bad they don't make many policemen like that anymore.... |
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Senior Citizens who probably haven't had many (or any) contacts with LEO's in their lives confronted by cops who develop an "us against them" mentality by having to deal with REAL assholes and criminals all day long.
It's not a good mix and it isn't likely to get better anytime in the future. Common sense is SO dead in this world as is basic courtesy and basic respect for other humans. |
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You have no idea how right you are. Many people today don't respect their own mother so why should they yours. Tj |
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these cops were assholes plain and simple. They need to be unemployed not retrained. Hopefully she gets a nice lawsuit settlement.
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We have a lot of them down here in Florida don't we. |
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tell me about it |
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She was just using her horn to say Hi -= |
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Perhaps. She could have made a fine pet if she was offered some love and Old Lady Kibble. Common sense died at the hands of both parties in this case. 1) Old lady shouldn't have honked at the police in the first place (do not invite the man into your life) 2) Cops should have just let it go anyway This is probably the result of some fucked up department policies that say something like "Taser use is right above verbal commands on the force continuum!"
"Oh crap! It's an old lady! Zap her!" |
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Just a note. Do you realize there are folks that think Phasers are real, and police should be armed with them instead of those nasty old guns? It's even made it onto the city council agenda for discussion. That was a REALLY entertaining city council meeting. |
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This doesn't surprise me in the least. The non-lethal options are on TV all the time on the educational channels. I especially love the one with the LEO with all those weapons in the tool box and when he gets to the M4 the dust cover is open. I often wonder if it won't be our LEOs that lose their guns before the public. Scary thought huh? I don't think I care for the idea of my local LEOs taking on gangbangers with their Glocks armed with a taser. I assure you whatever policies or laws are adapted the gangbangers simply won't give a hoot and shit and if tons of dope can be imported into this country smuggling guns won't be all that hard. Tj |
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