Is Bush Keeping His Promise...?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Is Bush Keeping His Promise...?

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:26:36 PM EDT

After 9-11 Bush had a message for terrorists and the countries that support or permit them within their borders...

"If you collaborate with terrorists, you do so at your own peril."

For me the question is academic. I'm voting for Bush regardless of my opinions of his resolve.

First we are at war and you don't change the quarterback in the middle of the game.

Second the only way it could get worse is to let Kerry take a shot at it.

And finally, and most importantly, our enemies are watching this election for weakness in our resolve. If we elect Kerry it will send the same message to our enemies that Spain sent.

Terrorism works.

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:30:04 PM EDT

[#1]

SA, I just hope more of America thinks like you and I do. Unfortunately for me, I live in LiberalLand, and the asshats up here think Kerry walks on water. Personally, of course, I think he and his best pal Teddy should get liquored-up and try to walk on water off just off the coast of Martha's Vineyard.

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:31:53 PM EDT

[#2]

I think he should "activate" more efficient ways (not PC ways) to deal terrorism with, while trying not to infringe the rights of civilians.

Whatever happens, it will be still better than Kerry's "sensitive" war on terrorism.

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:32:35 PM EDT

[#3]

Does crap stink?

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:38:10 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I think he should "activate" more efficient ways (not PC ways) to deal terrorism with, while trying not to infringe the rights of civilians.

Whatever happens, it will be still better than Kerry's "sensitive" war on terrorism.

Let's focus.

It isn't is Bush better than Kerry. That is easy.

Is Bush keeping HIS promise?

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:43:26 PM EDT

[#5]

yes. expect even more after Nov.

Posted: 8/20/2004 4:50:40 PM EDT

[#6]

No, and I don't know how anybody can reply "Yes" to this question. For years the nation topping the State Department's list of terrorist supporters has been Iran. We are doing NOTHING about that (speculation about covert ops is just that - speculation). Terrorist organizations thrive in Syria, fully supported by their government. We are doing NOTHING about that, either. Until we topple those two nations, we are just treating the symptoms.

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:04:52 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
yes. expect even more after Nov.

yep, this is what i'm hoping for. mebbe we can ditch the hearts and minds bullshit.

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:17:16 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
No, and I don't know how anybody can reply "Yes" to this question. For years the nation topping the State Department's list of terrorist supporters has been Iran. We are doing NOTHING about that (speculation about covert ops is just that - speculation). Terrorist organizations thrive in Syria, fully supported by their government. We are doing NOTHING about that, either. Until we topple those two nations, we are just treating the symptoms.

Cough * Saudi * Cough..

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:19:09 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
No, and I don't know how anybody can reply "Yes" to this question. For years the nation topping the State Department's list of terrorist supporters has been Iran. We are doing NOTHING about that (speculation about covert ops is just that - speculation). Terrorist organizations thrive in Syria, fully supported by their government. We are doing NOTHING about that, either. Until we topple those two nations, we are just treating the symptoms.

Lets get something straight. Clinton did NOTHING for YEARS! Bush rolled back Terror in two nations...and Libya is gving up WMDs. Bush has resolve, he has a clear vision and Iran and Syria will be next. Kerry has shown his true colors and said that he will remove the troops in Iraq in six months...Bush will keep America safe and will break the backs of these Terrorists. He will keep us safe because he has.

So yes people can say yes with pride, that we have a man like George W. Bush as President.

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:25:04 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Lets get something straight. Clinton did NOTHING for YEARS!

No he didn't, but is this thread about Clinton?

Bush has resolve, he has a clear vision and Iran and Syria will be next.

Oh, really? Cool! What's your evidence?

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:50:47 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Oh, really? Cool! What's your evidence?

It's called common sense. It's nice to have.

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:52:18 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Lets get something straight. Clinton did NOTHING for YEARS!

No he didn't, but is this thread about Clinton?

Bush has resolve, he has a clear vision and Iran and Syria will be next.

Oh, really? Cool! What's your evidence?

He sees it in his dreams

Posted: 8/20/2004 5:53:47 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
yes. expect even more after Nov.

You have been assimilated by the GOP. Your a goner

Posted: 8/20/2004 6:06:12 PM EDT

[#14]

My only concern is that I don't think we totally finished the job in Afghanistan before going into Iraq. Bin Laden's ass should have been nailed to the wall before we allocated so many resources to Iraq. Bin Laden is still the monkey on our backs. Aside from that, I'm glad the administration had the fortitude to go into Iraq. Now they need to take care of the other Arab nations that support terrorism. Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc. Use the example of Iraq to show them what will happen if they keep supporting terrorists. If they still don't learn, make them the next example.

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:03:40 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
yes. expect even more after Nov.

You have been assimilated by the GOP. Your a goner

You've been assimilated by DU. You're a sucker.

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:26:06 PM EDT

[#16]

Well, lets see...

Two towers, two countries. Not a fair trade as those two countries are shitholes .

And the President has kept the war an away game.

No new attacks in the US.

Yea, he is keeping the ragheads at bay.

But he should kill more of them.

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:33:46 PM EDT

[#17]

Jeezuz fn crap. Just what does the man have to do?

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:35:05 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Jeezuz fn crap. Just what does the man have to do?

Keep this promise.

"If you collaborate with terrorists, you do so at your own peril."

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:37:28 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
...Keep this promise.

"If you collaborate with terrorists, you do so at your own peril."

Not everything can be done at once. He has stayed the course to his political peril. HE NEEDS MORE TIME!

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:42:14 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
My only concern is that I don't think we totally finished the job in Afghanistan before going into Iraq. Bin Laden's ass should have been nailed to the wall before we allocated so many resources to Iraq. Bin Laden is still the monkey on our backs. Aside from that, I'm glad the administration had the fortitude to go into Iraq. Now they need to take care of the other Arab nations that support terrorism. Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc. Use the example of Iraq to show them what will happen if they keep supporting terrorists. If they still don't learn, make them the next example.

+1

Posted: 8/20/2004 7:43:45 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
...you don't change the quarterback in the middle of the game.

You're from Florida - you never seen the Gators coached by Spurrier?

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:09:07 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
No, and I don't know how anybody can reply "Yes" to this question. For years the nation topping the State Department's list of terrorist supporters has been Iran. We are doing NOTHING about that (speculation about covert ops is just that - speculation). Terrorist organizations thrive in Syria, fully supported by their government. We are doing NOTHING about that, either. Until we topple those two nations, we are just treating the symptoms.

The simple truth is that there's no way Bush would be re-elected if he took on the other terrorist muslim states (Saudi, Syria, Iran, etc). If he's not re-elected, nobody will take them on. I don't know for a fact that he will, but he's the best bet we have, and that's good enough for me.

I'm pretty dumb, so I try to evaluate these hard global political situations on a personal level. If somebody raped my (hypothetical) wife to death and then hid across town, you can bet your ass I'd go looking across town. If somebody over there said to me "I didn't kill your wife, but I do business with the people who did, and I've raped other women to death", I would break out the torch and the bolt cutters and go to town on him. After he told me everything he knew, I would put a bullet in his brain. Then I would move on to the next one like him until they were all gone.

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:22:23 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
And finally, and most importantly, our enemies are watching this election for weakness in our resolve. If we elect Kerry it will send the same message to our enemies that Spain sent.

Terrorism works.

Yep. And that's a BIG "most importantly" point.

And to answer your question - yes.

In a car race, it's suicide to keep the gas pedal floored at all times. Ya' gotta know when to let up on the gas, especially when approaching the turns.

GWBush has a big turn coming in November.

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:30:28 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
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Jeezuz fn crap. Just what does the man have to do?

Keep this promise.

"If you collaborate with terrorists, you do so at your own peril."

A Billion muslims on the planet and one man is expected to deal justice to them in three years. I think he is doing just fine. If nothing else happens in his second term I may be disappointed but so far so good. Planerench out.

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:35:18 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Quoted:
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Jeezuz fn crap. Just what does the man have to do?

Keep this promise.

"If you collaborate with terrorists, you do so at your own peril."

A Billion muslims on the planet and one man is expected to deal justice to them in three years. I think he is doing just fine. If nothing else happens in his second term I may be disappointed but so far so good. Planerench out.

I'd have been happy if he didn't get weak kneed in Fallujah and Najaf.

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:36:15 PM EDT

[#26]

The Taliban and Afghani Warlords run Afghanistan outside of Kabul, where "President" Karzai is confined to his fortified house/office protected day and night by US servicemen.

Opium is flooding out of Afghanistan again

Usama Bin-Laden is hiding in Pakistan/Afghanistan still....8/21/2004

"Muqtada al-Sadr is going to be the Ayatollah of Iraq in a few years"...mark my words

Zarkawi is still carbombing Bagdhad

Fallujah is an unresolvable problem

US civilians are being targeted/beheaded in Saudi Arabia

I voted "NO"

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:50:56 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
I'd have been happy if he didn't get weak kneed in Fallujah and Najaf.

Allow me to copy and paste my response to the Marines want to fight too much thread:

This is a political fight, as we have seen from the repetitious gamesmanship underway in the holy city of Najaf as well as the recent past in Fallujah. The Marines don't play political games with [insurgents+militants+foreign fighters+private armies=terrorists], they kill them.

If the President wants a force that will happily sublimate blood-drenched victory to some kind of mushy headed consensus-building approximation of a group hug, send in USAID, the State Department or Medecins Sans Frontieres, not the Marines. This malicious mindfuck could have been purpose built by our enemy to destroy the fighting spirit of motivated lifetakers. It's disgraceful that we are letting the terrorist tick shake the tail of the Big Dog.

It's got to be fuck, fight or footrace. Time to pick one and press on.

Posted: 8/20/2004 9:37:03 PM EDT

[#28]

Well said SA. I agree with you. And I hope that after the election, if GWB wins, the pc war will stop and a more firm resolve be able to be shown.

Posted: 8/20/2004 10:32:06 PM EDT

[#29]

Why did he wait a month to invade Afghanistan? Better yet why didn't he do it before Sep. 11th?

Thanks

Posted: 8/20/2004 10:51:08 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
Why did he wait a month to invade Afghanistan? Better yet why didn't he do it before Sep. 11th?

Thanks

Do you realize the planning and maneuvering involved in such a military action? I'm surprised it only took a month to prepare.

Posted: 8/20/2004 11:04:09 PM EDT

[#31]

The military doesn't have plans on file to invade a country that is well known to harbor terrorists?

I cannot believe that.

Posted: 8/21/2004 4:45:27 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Why did he wait a month to invade Afghanistan?

Because unlike armchair generals, REAL generals have to deal with things like logistics and personell.

Better yet why didn't he do it before Sep. 11th?

Because he'd only been in office 8 months?

Posted: 8/21/2004 4:45:58 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
The military doesn't have plans on file to invade a country that is well known to harbor terrorists?
I cannot believe that.

Who gives a damn what you can believe?

Posted: 8/21/2004 7:10:43 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Why did he wait a month to invade Afghanistan? Better yet why didn't he do it before Sep. 11th?

Thanks

Do you realize the planning and maneuvering involved in such a military action? I'm surprised it only took a month to prepare.

No kidding; that was a damned impressive effort.