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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:01:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: evnash]
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:02:36 PM EDT
[#1]
So, what does this mean?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:05:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Comply or die
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:05:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? ATF should be disbanded |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:06:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? Probably that form 4s will take even longer. 
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:07:34 PM EDT
[#6]
It means…. LOL
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:07:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:08:24 PM EDT
[#8]
ATF
FBI CIA GFY |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:08:25 PM EDT
[#9]
LOL. I just got an SBA4 coming today for my new Tac 14. Guess that means it will be a SBS?
But the hood rats are free to roam the streets with their wish glock switches yo. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:08:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:08:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evnash: The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evnash: Originally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces might as well just put a stock on it at this point. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:09:01 PM EDT
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We got 120 days to register. However, there is an interesting area that they created. Providing you use the brace as is and not shouldering. It is off of the website.
So, does this mean I just need to use the brace as required without registering as a NFA item. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:09:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG So millions of new applications. The AFT should have those sorted out by rapture. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? That the ATF can lick my unwiped asshole. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:10:06 PM EDT
[#15]
What if the braces are for my registered SBR and MG?
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:10:55 PM EDT
[#16]
Wow, they actually are that stupid.
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:10:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:11:05 PM EDT
[#18]
Fuck em. Take the brace off and put on a bumpstock instead
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR18: We got 120 days to register. However, there is an interesting area that they created. Providing you use the brace as is and not shouldering. It is off of the website. So, does this mean I just need to use the brace as required without registering as a NFA item. Using an item for something different than its main intended purpose doesn’t magically turn it into something else. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:11:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG does that mean it makes it a SBR? if so can i attach a stock and throw the brace away... |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:12:08 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evnash: The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evnash: Originally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces The ATF can suck my short, white dick. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:12:09 PM EDT
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Range toys.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:12:11 PM EDT
[#23]
FATF
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:12:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wakeboarder]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BelinTX: Using an item for something different than its main intended purpose doesn’t magically turn it into something else. You must now be 18 to buy cucumbers and bananas |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: So, what does this mean? Absolutely nothing ... to me. I'll continue to use my legally purchased braces, and factory braced pistols. The feds can FOAD for all I care. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Towely]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG So I should find something better than my PSA upper to throw my pistol brace on and get a free SBR, then swap it out for a buttstock? |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wakeboarder: You must now be 18 to buy cucumbers and bananas 
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:13:45 PM EDT
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They did not adopt the Worksheet 4999.
Instead, anything that provides a surface that can be shouldered is a stock. Form 1 is free to make your braced gun a SBR. I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I see. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:14:31 PM EDT
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 BREAKING NEWS: ATF Drops Pistol Brace Rule |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock 
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:15:00 PM EDT
[#31]
So, can lawsuits start once it's published in the federal register? Or not until after the 120 days?
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:16:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#32]
Does this have to be registered?
(Removed, CoC-2~ guns762) Edit: asking for a friend of course. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:16:24 PM EDT
[#33]
I'll get right on that, chief.
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixgunner45: Absolutely nothing ... to me. I'll continue to use my legally purchased braces, and factory braced pistols. The feds can FOAD for all I care. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:17:32 PM EDT
[#35]
So the 120 day thing...
does that mean they aren't enforcing the rule for 120 days or just that someone has 120 days to comply in some fashion? On day 90, someone has a braced pistol and is pulled over... 30 days to comply still or charged with possession of an SBR? |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:18:29 PM EDT
[#36]
Oh, look, you can't register to your trust unless it was on your schedule before today.
This evidence will generally include the signed, dated, and notarized terms of the trust or trust schedules that list or provide a description of the property held in trust. Who notarized their schedule? |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:19:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Can I return my new AKV for a full refund?
 As if anyone really thought the ATF "comment period" would make one damn bit of difference. The fix was in from the beginning. Then announced the Friday of a 3-day weekend. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:19:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Say hello to 3-4 year backlog of Form 1's if its true they are going to let people file them for free
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG Is this an amnesty? Because there is nothing in the law that allows an amnesty over 30 days or an amnesty for just 1 item |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:19:57 PM EDT
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Article I, Section 9, Clause 3:
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed. Was legal when I bought it. They can fuck off back to Washington DC |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:20:00 PM EDT
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If bumpstock ban got struck down this will too.
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct? The upper is what gets registered, not the stock? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:20:31 PM EDT
[#43]
I'm not complying. They said it was okay for ten years, just like bumpstocks.
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USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:20:39 PM EDT
[#44]
$200 is waived once registering such platform as a SBR...from 120-days of the official ruling after the registrar is in...
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USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:20:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xdoctor: They did not adopt the Worksheet 4999. Instead, anything that provides a surface that can be shouldered is a stock. Form 1 is free to make your braced gun a SBR. I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I see. No more points system? |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:21:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ElliotAbrahms: might as well just put a stock on it at this point. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock Adding a new category to the NFA would have to be done by Congress so they'll have to be registered as SBR's, I don't see how they can prevent you from installing a real stock once you get the stamp |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Towely: If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct? The upper is what gets registered, not the stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Towely: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct? The upper is what gets registered, not the stock? |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:22:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YukonCharlie: Comply or die I won't be complying so... |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 3:22:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Towely: If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct? The upper is what gets registered, not the stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Towely: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By RamaSita: Wow. It does have the "free stamp" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480443/Screenshot_20230113_140703_Samsung_Notes-2670565.JPG If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct? The upper is what gets registered, not the stock? How would they know who gets a free stamp for their brace and who's registering a normal SBR? |
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