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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:15:33 PM EDT
... superior to Tennessee whisky?
And Happy Thanksgiving! |
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Depends on the liquor.
For example, George Dickel Recipe 8 is superior to anything with the Evan Williams Label on it. |
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I'll be the first ... Bourbon is only made in Kentucky. Period.
/ end thread. |
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Heads are going to pop….
What about that….”Texas bourbon”? Personally I love JD. |
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Quoted: Depends on the liquor. For example, George Dickel Recipe 8 is superior to anything with the Evan Williams Label on it. View Quote +1 Kentucky makes many more brands of bourbon than Tennessee does their whiskey. So most people are more likely to find a bourbon that they like than a Tennessee whiskey that they like. And likewise, if they like a Tennessee whiskey, it is much easier to find a bourbon that they don’t like. |
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Quoted: I'll be the first ... Bourbon is only made in Kentucky. Period. / end thread. View Quote Actually some of the most popular and well liked bourbons from one of the biggest distillers in the world are made in your state. ETA: but I did understand that reference and hope we don’t see a repeat of that thread. |
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Here in Kentucky, we combine the grace and charm of the North with the brisk industry and efficiency of the South.
Which explains how we are able to make such good bourbon. |
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Old Forester 1910 is my favorite out of what I've tried.
What else is good? Similar? |
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Both are good. I've got half a turkey in the big green egg currently that spent 2 days in a bourbon brine. There's also a bourbon apple pie in the fridge. We will probably eat around 5.
Like a lot of things in life, I don't have to understand the why of bourbon or Tennessee whiskey. |
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Because our water. Same reason you raise thoroughbreds here. KY is sitting on a huge limestone bed.
That means our water is calcium rich and other minerals. Calcium good for growing thoroughbred bones. Same reason our borboun whiskey is so good. But second to the water our climate is perfect for aging bourbon in new charred white oak barrels. The temp changes move the spirit in and out of the barrel. |
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Quoted: The water from ky i had drank tasted and smelled like sulfur. I spent a little time at knob Creek, the water was nasty. View Quote Knob Creek bourbon is not made with that water, fortunately. I am in Kentucky, but close to the Tennessee line. Well water around here isn’t fit to drink, either. Fortunately, bourbon makers have lots of good water. |
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I like both.
I find it easier to enjoy a younger bourbon than a younger TN whiskey. I can’t stand regular jack, gentlemen jack, etc. but the select single barrel and the Sinatra select are great. But with bourbon I love makers mark, Buffalo trace, etc. it doesn’t need to be a top end bourbon. |
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Quoted: Knob Creek bourbon is not made with that water, fortunately. I am in Kentucky, but close to the Tennessee line. Well water around here isn’t fit to drink, either. Fortunately, bourbon makers have lots of good water. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The water from ky i had drank tasted and smelled like sulfur. I spent a little time at knob Creek, the water was nasty. Knob Creek bourbon is not made with that water, fortunately. I am in Kentucky, but close to the Tennessee line. Well water around here isn’t fit to drink, either. Fortunately, bourbon makers have lots of good water. Look at where the borboun is made and the horse breeding farms are. It’s the limestone. |
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Drank some JD Single Barrel Barrel Proof last night that is superior to the bourbons I have but not to scotch like Aberlour Abudnah.
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Quoted: Look at where the borboun is made and the horse breeding farms are. It’s the limestone. View Quote Lots of limestone around here, and some of the spring water is very good. Just not enough of it. Plenty of the old houses in my town had cisterns. No rivers convenient for transport, either. Now the climate would be good for aging. In spite of all that, there are now a few craft distilleries a few miles away. But yes, back in the day, the Kentucky distilleries were well placed. Good water, good transportation, good access to materials, good climate for aging. |
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Quoted: Lots of limestone around here, and some of the spring water is very good. Just not enough of it. Plenty of the old houses in my town had cisterns. No rivers convenient for transport, either. Now the climate would be good for aging. In spite of all that, there are now a few craft distilleries a few miles away. But yes, back in the day, the Kentucky distilleries were well placed. Good water, good transportation, good access to materials, good climate for aging. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Look at where the borboun is made and the horse breeding farms are. It’s the limestone. Lots of limestone around here, and some of the spring water is very good. Just not enough of it. Plenty of the old houses in my town had cisterns. No rivers convenient for transport, either. Now the climate would be good for aging. In spite of all that, there are now a few craft distilleries a few miles away. But yes, back in the day, the Kentucky distilleries were well placed. Good water, good transportation, good access to materials, good climate for aging. See my state. Worked with master distillers and tons of master taster training (I worked in the biz) It’s our water. And subsequently that water feeds our corn. And the oak that makes the barrels in our cooperates. Oh and yeast that’s been kept in a safe for 100 years. Oh, and our climate. |
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Quoted: See my state. Worked with master distillers and tons of master taster training (I worked in the biz) It’s our water. And subsequently that water feeds our corn. And the oak that makes the barrels in our cooperates. Oh and yeast that’s been kept in a safe for 100 years. Oh, and our climate. View Quote Water is truly a huge part of it. It’s a large percentage of spirits. You can’t put crap in and expect to get gold out. |
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Me and the missus is having Wellers for after dinner toast .. cheers, and Happy Thanksgiving.
And then maybe two fingers of Eagle Rare. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll be the first ... Bourbon is only made in Kentucky. Period. / end thread. Even “Texas bourbon”? Is that like Texas BBQ? How dare you insult Texas barbecue like that. Texans are great at two things, smoked meats and Mexican food. Texans are dreadful at two things, pizza and whiskey |
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Quoted: I'll be the first ... Bourbon is only made in Kentucky. Period. / end thread. View Quote And that would be very incorrect. While I may be biased for the whisky of my native state, there is in fact bourbons that are made outside of the bluegrass state. Both actually and legally. I also like Tennessee whiskey. |
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Truthfully the term “bourbon” has been one of the best tools of marketing I have ever personally encountered.
What is funny is that the term likely originated in Louisiana. It wasn’t until 1964 that it even had any sort of legal standing and laid down some solid rules of what bourbon actually is. But Kentucky was definitely quick to grab onto it and run with it. I personally like having some standardized definitions of what bourbon is. But at the same time I almost wish it didn’t exist. It has created far more misunderstandings, snobbishness, and ignorance than it is likely worth. It has poisoned the minds of so many folks to the joys that can be found throughout the whisk(e)y world. |
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Quoted: And that would be very incorrect. While I may be biased for the whisky of my native state, there is in fact bourbons that are made outside of the bluegrass state. Both actually and legally. I also like Tennessee whiskey. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'll be the first ... Bourbon is only made in Kentucky. Period. / end thread. And that would be very incorrect. While I may be biased for the whisky of my native state, there is in fact bourbons that are made outside of the bluegrass state. Both actually and legally. I also like Tennessee whiskey. Bourbon can be made anywhere. It just so happens that 98% is made in KY. Why? Because we do it best for the reasons I already stated. Water. Seasons. There is no “best” whiskey. It’s what you like. For example I loved bourbon whiskey. I also liked tennesse whiskey. But for some reason I can’t stand scotch whiskey. |
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I can't tell the difference between the two so I'm good to go with either.
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Quoted: Quoted: I loved bourbon whiskey. I also liked tennesse whiskey. But for some reason I can’t stand scotch whiskey. I suspect you have heathen tendencies. He probably does not like drinking alcohol that tastes like dirt. |
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Quoted: I can't tell the difference between the two so I'm good to go with either. View Quote I bet if you were properly sat down with both you would likely come to see a difference. Quoted: Limestone? View Quote Yes, and undoubtedly the other trace minerals that come along with it. The problem is that Limestone areas almost always come with the risk of hitting sulfur when you drill your well. If your well is clean then you are golden. Springs are always an option if your well fails. Though usually you would just start with the spring. But some distilleries do use treated water. |
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Quoted: He probably does not like drinking alcohol that tastes like dirt. View Quote I should type out a reply I can paste in these threads. Unfortunately someone has done you a disservice. Over 90% of scotch lacks peat. Which admittedly is something you either love or hate. Personally I love it. But it seems like the scotch most have tasted fall into that 8% that are peated. So you don’t realize the vast majority of scotch is sweet, light, and often mellow. You need to try Money shoulder, Glenmorangie, even Chivas Regal to have a different experience. |
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Quoted: Because our water. Same reason you raise thoroughbreds here. KY is sitting on a huge limestone bed. That means our water is calcium rich and other minerals. Calcium good for growing thoroughbred bones. Same reason our borboun whiskey is so good. But second to the water our climate is perfect for aging bourbon in new charred white oak barrels. The temp changes move the spirit in and out of the barrel. View Quote I read all of that in Hank Hill's voice. |
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