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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just because someone has a different viewpoint than you on firearms doesn't mean that they are "anti-second amendment" Don't expect an echo chamber whose membership exactly mirrors your views on issues. c'mon man, don't pretend that trolls don't, y'know, the thing. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:59:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:59:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am all for free speech. Happy to debate with anyone. But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website. Ahh yes, the ol' "I support X, Y or Z, buuuuuttt..... " routine. Let me guess, your list of things that aren't "free speech" includes any speech that you disagree with, or otherwise hurts your feelings? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:00:08 PM EDT
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It generates clicks
Welcome your new anti-2A members with open arms. Their opinion is not at all harmful the forum… |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. I've seen far too many good posters get baited to cross the line and get banned as a result.  Weel, whose fault is that? People here espouse personal responsibility all the time, until they want to say that someone couldn't control themselves and got a pink slip and was shown the door. That person is still responsible for their actions. In all my years here I can't think of anyone posting that they were outright anti-gun. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It generates clicks Welcome your new anti-2A members with open arms. Their opinion is not at all harmful the forum… I worry more about the mobys (mobies?) than people saying anti 2a shit. (that sucks too, but mobies do more harm) |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:05:34 PM EDT
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In another thread - the guy referenced by OP supported licensing and registration of all guns in the US.
If that is not trolling, considering the nature of this website, then what is ? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In another thread - the guy referenced by OP supported licensing and registration of all guns in the US. If that is not trolling, considering the nature of this website, then what is ? What if he actually believed in what he said? Would it be trolling? It seems like it could be difficult to know when people really believe things versus are lying to get a reaction. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:10:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In another thread - the guy referenced by OP supported licensing and registration of all guns in the US. If that is not trolling, considering the nature of this website, then what is ? I wouldn't say that was trolling. Thats someone with a different view of gun ownership than someone else. Believe it or not, not every gun owner agrees with every other gun owner. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't say that was trolling. Thats someone with a different view of gun ownership than someone else. Believe it or not, not every gun owner agrees with every other gun owner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In another thread - the guy referenced by OP supported licensing and registration of all guns in the US. If that is not trolling, considering the nature of this website, then what is ? I wouldn't say that was trolling. Thats someone with a different view of gun ownership than someone else. Believe it or not, not every gun owner agrees with every other gun owner. I take your point. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:13:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if he actually believed in what he said? Would it be trolling? It seems like it could be difficult to know when people really believe things versus are lying to get a reaction. Anybody who shares a viewpoint that I don’t like, or who violates my safe space echo chamber, is a communist troll. Come on man, this is GD101. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:13:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weel, whose fault is that? People here espouse personal responsibility all the time, until they want to say that someone couldn't control themselves and got a pink slip and was shown the door. That person is still responsible for their actions. In all my years here I can't think of anyone posting that they were outright anti-gun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup. I've seen far too many good posters get baited to cross the line and get banned as a result. Weel, whose fault is that? People here espouse personal responsibility all the time, until they want to say that someone couldn't control themselves and got a pink slip and was shown the door. That person is still responsible for their actions. In all my years here I can't think of anyone posting that they were outright anti-gun. Looks pretty anti-gun/pro-control to me  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:15:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The new kinder, friendlier arfcom is all about inclusion. 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:16:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am all for free speech. Happy to debate with anyone. But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website. You can just not reply to them. I came to this site as a new member because I discovered what I [naively] thought was a pressing 2A matter and made a thread on it just to be called a Fed or a Glowie a lot. It's kind of annoying but it also keeps you humble, and I'll take getting trolled over nanny jannies policing your every post and banning people for hurting others feelings. Free speech means dealing with jerks and annoying people. There was a crazy homeless man who used to hang out by the local supermarket and make police siren noises so loud you could hear him a half mile away. He creeped me out, and I wished there was a way to get rid of him, but thinking about it there was no way I could support empowering the police to do so that I couldn't easily see being abused. If you don't like people don't talk to them. Simple as. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:18:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can just not reply to them. I came to this site as a new member because I discovered what I [naively] thought was a pressing 2A matter and made a thread on it just to be called a Fed or a Glowie a lot. It's kind of annoying but it also keeps you humble, and I'll take getting trolled over nanny jannies policing your every post and banning people for hurting others feelings. Free speech means dealing with jerks and annoying people. There was a crazy homeless man who used to hang out by the local supermarket and make police siren noises so loud you could hear him a half mile away. He creeped me out, and I wished there was a way to get rid of him, but thinking about it there was no way I could support empowering the police to do so that I couldn't easily see being abused. If you don't like people don't talk to them. Simple as. People are highly suspicious of new accounts whose first posts are about controversial firearms topics. And rightfully so. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:19:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am all for free speech. Happy to debate with anyone. But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Surely OP can't be serious... I am all for free speech. Happy to debate with anyone. But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website. It helps thin the productive and pro 2a members from the site. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:21:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well site staff quoted me so I'm assuming so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are we sure though? I thought we weren't allowed to know members' bannanation status any more? Well site staff quoted me so I'm assuming so. LOL, thanks But that was kinda my point - mods/staff can openly ban people for long-continued bullshit, but blink or miss the thread/post where it happens, and you can no longer verify the idiot is gone. One of the more bizarre removals of feature I can recall in my history of forum usage - literally every other forum I've ever belonged to lets you easily see a poster's active/banned status. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:27:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I owned the site, GD would be unavailable until an account was 3 years old and had 500 posts in the technical forums. If that were the rule, I still wouldn't be able to get in here. I would have to make a bunch of posts in the tech forums, just to get my numbers up. I think that making people look for ways to do that would only take away from the tech forums, while making it harder for everyone to wade through the extra traffic. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:33:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that were the rule, I still wouldn't be able to get in here. I would have to make a bunch of posts in the tech forums, just to get my numbers up. I think that making people look for ways to do that would only take away from the tech forums, while making it harder for everyone to wade through the extra traffic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I owned the site, GD would be unavailable until an account was 3 years old and had 500 posts in the technical forums. If that were the rule, I still wouldn't be able to get in here. I would have to make a bunch of posts in the tech forums, just to get my numbers up. I think that making people look for ways to do that would only take away from the tech forums, while making it harder for everyone to wade through the extra traffic. You make a good point. But it would at least ensure we all had a common interest in guns. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:37:07 PM EDT
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Just don’t tell someone to “get the fuck out”. That is an account warning.
They do include this meme though as a standard though.  Attached FileDon’t expect even moderation. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:39:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just don’t tell someone to “get the fuck out”. That is an account warning. They do include this meme though as a standard though. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/gtfo-183.gif Don’t expect even moderation. get the fuck out of here. really? 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:41:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just don't tell someone to "get the fuck out". That is an account warning. They do include this meme though as a standard though. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/gtfo-183.gif Don't expect even moderation. 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: get the fuck out of here. really? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just don’t tell someone to “get the fuck out”. That is an account warning. They do include this meme though as a standard though. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/gtfo-183.gif Don’t expect even moderation. get the fuck out of here. really? For realz. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:48:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You make a good point. But it would at least ensure we all had a common interest in guns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I owned the site, GD would be unavailable until an account was 3 years old and had 500 posts in the technical forums. If that were the rule, I still wouldn't be able to get in here. I would have to make a bunch of posts in the tech forums, just to get my numbers up. I think that making people look for ways to do that would only take away from the tech forums, while making it harder for everyone to wade through the extra traffic. Sure. I understand the goal, but I also look at what people will do to get around things. I'm sure many would learn stuff along the way, but all noobs being told *Go make 500 posts in these forums* would likely create more problems, especially with none of them knowing the rules. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:52:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty sure trolling is the epitome of free speech. I sure enjoy Trump's trolling, and DeSantis'. Trolling is a good thing. Even the anti crap here is entertaining watching them make an ass out of themselves. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:57:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:59:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Surely it is CoC ? I get that we all have various views and often have a heated debate etc but I have noticed a few members ( usually free accounts ) who are blatently ANTI-2A and whose only purpose in joining a SHOOTING /2A website is to troll. Yet - nothing seems to get done about it ?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 5:01:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once upon a time there was _A troll that outmaneuvered all the mods and outclassed all the other trolls... I wonder if he was always trolling or if he just got to the point where he didn't give a shit anymore because so many people disagreed with him. I missed his ban, pretty sure I was taking a break because I was tired of his shit. He got me though, I mean I wasted a ton of time arguing with him back in the day. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:08:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks pretty anti-gun/pro-control to me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20220922_131148_Chrome_jpg-2535437.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20220922_120023_Chrome_jpg-2535445.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20220922_130040_Chrome_jpg-2535446.JPG |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if he was always trolling or if he just got to the point where he didn't give a shit anymore because so many people disagreed with him. I missed his ban, pretty sure I was taking a break because I was tired of his shit. He got me though, I mean I wasted a ton of time arguing with him back in the day. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:18:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Private company, their website their rules This!! Just like FB twitter etc |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:44:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure. I understand the goal, but I also look at what people will do to get around things. I'm sure many would learn stuff along the way, but all noobs being told *Go make 500 posts in these forums* would likely create more problems, especially with none of them knowing the rules. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I owned the site, GD would be unavailable until an account was 3 years old and had 500 posts in the technical forums. If that were the rule, I still wouldn't be able to get in here. I would have to make a bunch of posts in the tech forums, just to get my numbers up. I think that making people look for ways to do that would only take away from the tech forums, while making it harder for everyone to wade through the extra traffic. Sure. I understand the goal, but I also look at what people will do to get around things. I'm sure many would learn stuff along the way, but all noobs being told *Go make 500 posts in these forums* would likely create more problems, especially with none of them knowing the rules. Funny thing is, I honestly didn’t know GD existed until I had been here at least a couple of years. I was interested in specific information, and it never occurred to me that people would just hang out and chat about random stuff online. Now I waste too much time here. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:46:00 PM EDT
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Part of the problem here is that anything that is not absolute 2nd Amendment free for all is considered 'anti-2A' and the REE starts.
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:47:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Part of the problem here is that anything that is not absolute 2nd Amendment free for all is considered 'anti-2A' and the REE starts. Only a commie would believe that individuals should not own nuclear weapons
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only a commie would believe that individuals should not own nuclear weapons  SEE it starts already
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:01:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Surely it is CoC ? I get that we all have various views and often have a heated debate etc but I have noticed a few members ( usually free accounts ) who are blatently ANTI-2A and whose only purpose in joining a SHOOTING /2A website is to troll. Yet - nothing seems to get done about it ? Whenever enough people complain about a troll a long time popular member is picked to be banned. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing is, I honestly didn't know GD existed until I had been here at least a couple of years. I was interested in specific information, and it never occurred to me that people would just hang out and chat about random stuff online. Now I waste too much time here.  The first forum I ever joined was a Missouri deer hunting site, and people on there kept mentioning "Over on AR15...", so I did a search and came here. I started in GD, and expanded out a bit from here. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:01:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or maybe grown men can just not get butthurt about something strangers say on the internet? Leftists aren’t people and shouldn’t have a voice anywhere. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:14:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Part of the problem here is that anything that is not absolute 2nd Amendment free for all is considered 'anti-2A' and the REE starts. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:18:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty sure trolling is the epitome of free speech. Free speech does not mean free from consequences speech. You are free to tell your boss to fuck off, and he is free to fire you. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:20:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is long standing membership like yourself considers that a problem. okie dokie |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:35:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:35:43 AM EDT
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Every time I've heard of this it always turns out to be just plain old butthurt.
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:47:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I worry more about the mobys (mobies?) than people saying anti 2a shit. (that sucks too, but mobies do more harm) I’m a life long conservative Republican but I think sensible gun control is reasonable.
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:59:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a life long conservative Republican but I think sensible gun control is reasonable. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I worry more about the mobys (mobies?) than people saying anti 2a shit. (that sucks too, but mobies do more harm) I'm a life long conservative Republican but I think sensible gun control is reasonable. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 1:02:36 AM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 9/23/2022 1:30:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only sensible gun control is weapon retention and trigger discipline. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I worry more about the mobys (mobies?) than people saying anti 2a shit. (that sucks too, but mobies do more harm) I'm a life long conservative Republican but I think sensible gun control is reasonable. As a life long conservative Republican the only gun you really need is your grandpa’s shotgun that you inherited. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 1:31:03 AM EDT
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 I'm not trollin, I'm Boxxy you see |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 2:02:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a life long conservative Republican the only gun you really need is your grandpa's shotgun that you inherited. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I worry more about the mobys (mobies?) than people saying anti 2a shit. (that sucks too, but mobies do more harm) I'm a life long conservative Republican but I think sensible gun control is reasonable. As a life long conservative Republican the only gun you really need is your grandpa's shotgun that you inherited. 
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Posted: 9/23/2022 2:39:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anybody who shares a viewpoint that I don’t like, or who violates my safe space echo chamber, is a communist troll. Come on man, this is GD101.  The Most "I'ma Freedom Fighter!!" types are the first to scream "Silence Them!!" when any opinion isn't exactly theirs. Bigger_Hammer  |
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