When all is said and done, he'll be viewed the same as Bush by patriotic Americans - A big spending, debt ceiling raising, fiscal liberal who sacrificed our future for the short term. More debt than Obama in half the time. Larger trade deficits. Called for NEGATIVE interest rates after criticizing the artificially low interest rates that created a "big fat ugly bubble" under Obama. Lots of Red meat for the base but little actual substance.  

He had the right idea on foreign policy at least, and didn't get us into any major wars, but overall he was a net L for any actual supporters of a Constitutionally limited govt who is capable of thinking past "totally owning libturds on Twitter"

I wish his words weren't hollow and he actually delivered the tough medicine the country needed, but instead he delivered more fiscal and monetary heroin, normalized not paying for student loans, normalized direct cash stimulus from .gov, normalized PPP bailouts, normalized UBI in the form of enhanced unemployment, banned bumpstocks..

Oh well

Go Trump

There i disagree with you but neither of us know what trump was thinking.

My overarching theory in how trump works is he'll say almost anything to massage the moment. He'll call people bad dogs for disagreeing with him then turn around and call them good dogs the very next day for doing something good... wether he means it or not.

The same goes for perceived stances on buttstocks and, if we remember,  red flag laws. I recall these things, too ;) personally, i think they fall under the same policy--massage the moment, take no real action on it.

To point, if trump were so anti-gun, he could have rolled and signed to law every evil thing he is being accused of with a 100% chance of passing. If he truly saw people as the problem as you suppose, there would be law backing it up. This is what i mean by revisionist history. He could have taken up any congressional push for gun control-- even a mundane buttstock law--at any point. He didn't. There is no law you or anybody else can point to that puts those words into substantial action. You really think there would be enough republican spine to stop it?

You can point to the ATF however, which has been doing ATF bullshit for years well before trump. You can also make a case that he should have reigned them in or abolished them, like everybody and their wish list. Sure, but he couldnt even get support from his own damn party to do simple shit like ban flights from terrorist countries and build a wall. Killing off an entire federal agency would take an act of God without just his party's support, let alone both repubs and dems stabbing him on the back.

Anyway, you be you. I dont like some of his policies either, some of the people he endorses, etc, but short of Desantis,  id vote for him again in a heartbeat.

Trump is the most popular Republican politician in this country by far, in case anyone has forgotten he just single-handedly ended Liz Cheney's career. Arfcom is full of Democrats and wanted Ted Cruz as president, so it might favor something but it's not a relevant indicator for Republican, conservative, or even gun owner's voting habits.

I don't know why anyone want to re-elect that old fart. Mofo is 76 years old. Biden is 79! In a few years he will be acting like biden, stumbling his words, can't find his way off stage with dementia

No, not a Never Trumper, but many are very politically naïve. Any non-Democrat candidate opponent who is not a Marxist or Marxist supporter will get the same treatment as Trump. Period. The only reason the attacks continue is that Trump hasn't backed down like a Bush or Romney, or was a closet-Marxist masquerading as a war hero RINO like McCain.  

Trump represents some, but not all of my values and he's actually more in synch with a conservative ideology than the dozens of RINO representatives in congress. He's far from perfect and he's made some bad choices and bad decisions, but he's still vastly better than any other option other than DeSantis IMHO.

With all the attacks on Trump, it just generates political capital, and that is making massive wins, right now at several primary elections and will potentially overwhelm the Marxists in November.

While I think many get tired of the drama, understand, it's not Trump creating it, and he's right over the target which is why it's in our face everyday on the Marxist Media. He is old, be but he's light-years more coherent than FJB. He knows exactly jacked up the government is and could make some serious, wholesale changes to pour a little chlorine into the swamp and dismantle much of the deep state shenanigans; I say let him.

It won't happen, but my dream ticket would be Trump/DeSantis. With the pending depression and necessary budgetary constraints with massive impacts to entitlements, whacking regulations, downsizing and even eliminating many of the government agencies...let Trump take that heat for four years, paving the way for DeSantis to really get after prosperity for the following eight years. That would be my Christmas wish.

ROCK6

Of all people you would rather get rid of them, rather than Marxists and globalists?

Impressive, packing that much fail into such a concise second sentence. Bravo.

President Donald Trump’s administration had asked the court to leave the convictions in place.

"He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now."

I think Trump had the vision but not the political savvy to effectively execute it. He wanted to drain the swamp but his cabinet was absolutely filled with swamp creatures. He made the mistake of trusting GOPe and then not swiftly kicking their asses out when they turned on him. Among the worst were Javanka and they're probably not going anywhere if he gets reelected.

I would vote for him without a second thought if he is the nominee for 2024, but I think someone like DeSantis who looks to be continuing the vision but also with the ability to navigate the fraught landscape of national politics would be ideal.

My thoughts, exactly.

I am a fringe T$ supporter due to his weak 2nd stance and some of the stupid things he says.   I voted for him each time I could (except the 16' primary) and will again.  I think his foreign policy was the tits!  I like the way he stirs up every democrats mind every time he opens his mouth. I could do with less attacking those in his own party, regardless of how swampy and rhinoish.

Would you call this poster a Trump 'nut hugger'?

Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.

ETA:  After scrolling through the rest of the thread, I notice you haven't commented further.

Did you just want to throw trolling ridiculous, name-calling bombs just for fun?

If so, those are the actions of a child.

Or do you have an agenda that involves dividing those who want wealth and power to be given back to the people?

If so, those are the actions of an enemy within.

Which is it.

@CPT_CAVEMAN

Same. I wish he had talked less, got more done.

I'd rather see DeSantis.

But if nominated, I'll vote for him a third time.

Bigger_Hammer

Do you like how Trump was putting wealth back into the hands of the people?

Do you like how Trump exposed the depth of corruption for both the Dems, the Repubs, the media, and, social media?

These successes laid a fantastic foundation for strengthening this country.
(there are many more successes to be listed, but you get the point even if you won't admit it)

Name another candidate who had the strength needed to initiate this strategy.

Name another candidate who will build on this strategy.

Edited to Add:  I notice you've decided to strangely keep quiet all of a sudden.  Wonder why that it is, @Honda4828.

Anthony Wiener ring any bells ...

(AKA Carlos Danger ...   )

He was being groomed to be "BIG" in Democratic Politics ...    

Hilary Clinton ended up being the scapegoat of the Democratic Party 2016 & became "Persona Non Grata".

Hilary Clinton (A) was Busted  in a Conspiracy with the DNC (w/Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as the Chairperson) to cheat the "Bernie Bunch" regarding the Democratic Nomination Process & (B) she lost to Donald Trump because she had the election "Completely In The Bag" and thus didn't even bother to visit several key electoral states to urge turn out.

Not one Democrat was looking to have Hilary campaign / endorse them in the 2018, 2020 or 2022 elections.

Bigger_Hammer